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How to Win podcast with Peep Laja - Playing to your strengths and strengthening your brand identity with Seismic's Doug Winter

Playing to your strengths and strengthening your brand identity with Seismic's Doug Winter

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04/25/22 • 33 min

How to Win podcast with Peep Laja

Key Points:

  • Doug explains how Seismic's founders saw a market opening (00:55)
  • How Seismic created a category and helped define a new word (02:43)
  • How the founders played to their strengths and industry experience (04:37)
  • My thoughts on founders playing to their strengths, and a quote from Unqork's Gary Hoberman (06:38)
  • How Seismic achieved product-market fit (08:35)
  • I explain why you need to be the best at something specific if you want to win (09:28)
  • "Contacts become contract" and a quote from YC's Michael Seibel (11:08)
  • Why Doug believes the saying "only the paranoid survive" (13:11)
  • How Seismic usurped the category leaders by acquiring them (14:36)
  • My thoughts on creating categories and subcategories with a quote from Prof. David Aaker (16:05)
  • Why Seismic is so focused on keeping their customers happy to avoid commoditization (19:14)
  • Doug's thoughts on staying true to your brand identity (20:47)
  • I explain the importance of prioritizing brand identity (21:50)
  • Seismic's acquisition strategy (25:00)
  • My thoughts on strategic acquisitions with a quote from LegalZoom's John Suh (26:27)
  • Wrap up (31:35)

Mentioned:

Doug Winter LinkedIn

Seismic LinkedIn

Seismic Website

Establishing authority via industry experience with Unqork’s Gary Hoberman

Michael Seibel LinkedIn

Professor David Aaker

John Suh LinkedIn

LegalZoom

My Links:

Twitter

LinkedIn

Website

Wynter

Speero

CXL

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Key Points:

  • Doug explains how Seismic's founders saw a market opening (00:55)
  • How Seismic created a category and helped define a new word (02:43)
  • How the founders played to their strengths and industry experience (04:37)
  • My thoughts on founders playing to their strengths, and a quote from Unqork's Gary Hoberman (06:38)
  • How Seismic achieved product-market fit (08:35)
  • I explain why you need to be the best at something specific if you want to win (09:28)
  • "Contacts become contract" and a quote from YC's Michael Seibel (11:08)
  • Why Doug believes the saying "only the paranoid survive" (13:11)
  • How Seismic usurped the category leaders by acquiring them (14:36)
  • My thoughts on creating categories and subcategories with a quote from Prof. David Aaker (16:05)
  • Why Seismic is so focused on keeping their customers happy to avoid commoditization (19:14)
  • Doug's thoughts on staying true to your brand identity (20:47)
  • I explain the importance of prioritizing brand identity (21:50)
  • Seismic's acquisition strategy (25:00)
  • My thoughts on strategic acquisitions with a quote from LegalZoom's John Suh (26:27)
  • Wrap up (31:35)

Mentioned:

Doug Winter LinkedIn

Seismic LinkedIn

Seismic Website

Establishing authority via industry experience with Unqork’s Gary Hoberman

Michael Seibel LinkedIn

Professor David Aaker

John Suh LinkedIn

LegalZoom

My Links:

Twitter

LinkedIn

Website

Wynter

Speero

CXL

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undefined - Expanding internationally into market openings with Kameleoon's Jean-René Boidron

Expanding internationally into market openings with Kameleoon's Jean-René Boidron

Key Points:

  • Jean-René explains how Kameleoon got its start (01:07)
  • How Kameleoon got an advantage by establishing itself outside of the dominant North American market (02:40)
  • My thoughts on finding market openings and targeting a specific set of customers (05:34)
  • Why Kameleoon keeps its core strategy the same globally, which some localized differences (07:00)
  • I explain the advantages of being more local with a quote from Prof. Richard Lynch (09:06)
  • Jean-René explains the market verticals Kameleoon is focused on (13:22)
  • Why word of mouth is a pillar of Kameleoon's marketing strategy (15:27)
  • I explain why building mental availability is essential to generating more word of mouth (16:42)
  • Why Kameleoon prefers to go "slow in the right direction" over "fast in the wrong one" (18:04)
  • My thoughts on why product differentiation is important, but not enough to win you the game, with a quote from Gong's Chris Orlob (19:16)
  • Jean-René explains why smaller markets don't see as much commoditization as large ones (21:43)
  • Why Kameleoon was hesitant to rely on lots of VC funding in the early days (24:46)
  • My thoughts on the challenges of over-funding startups with a quote from Jason Calacanis (26:23)
  • Wrap up (28:57)

Mentioned:

Jean-René Boidron LinkedIn

Jean-René Boidron Twitter

Kameleoon LinkedIn

Kameleoon Website

VWO

Optimizely

Salesforce

Baidu

Prof. Richard Lynch Website

Gong

Chris Orlob LinkedIn

Jason Calacanis LinkedIn

My Links:

Twitter

LinkedIn

Website

Wynter

Speero

CXL

Next Episode

undefined - Aligning your business to your customers' interests with HoneyBook's Oz Alon

Aligning your business to your customers' interests with HoneyBook's Oz Alon

Key Points:

  • How HoneyBook got its start (00:58)
  • Oz explains why he views competitors as incentive for improvement (02:27)
  • Why HoneyBook is shifting strategies to invest in category creation (04:31)
  • My thoughts on category and subcategory creation with a quote from Guillaume Cabane (06:08)
  • I explain why choosing an ideal customer and being the best at catering to their specific needs is a winning strategy (11:51)
  • Oz relates what he learned from HoneyBook's failed experiments (12:45)
  • I discuss the experimenter's mindset, with a quote from author Annie Duke (14:04)
  • Oz maps out the four main sales channels that are productive for HoneyBook (15:59)
  • I explain why word of mouth is the most important channel for B2B marketers with a quote from Metadata's Jason Widup (19:53)
  • Oz explains HoneyBook's obsession with their customers, and why he feels that gives them a competitive advantage (22:00)
  • My thoughts on the value of doing things that don't scale in the early days of your business, with a quote from Airbnb's Joe Gebbia (25:11)
  • Oz advises founders to focus on aligning their business models with their customers' interests (29:11)
  • Wrap up (30:40)

Mentioned:

Oz Alon LinkedIn

HoneyBook LinkedIn

HoneyBook Website

Figma Website

Klaviyo Website

Gorgias

How Guillaume 'G' Cabane identifies growth opportunities for businesses

"Thinking in Bets" by Annie Duke

Jason Widup

Metadata Website

Joe Gebbia Twitter

Airbnb Website

My Links:

Twitter

LinkedIn

Website

Wynter

Speero

CXL

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