
69:Going On The Record with Lori Adams-Brown & Lori Harding: Trust, Trauma & Telling Your Story
02/08/23 • 40 min
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"We did this out of love to protect sheep. Exposing the darkness to the light is how it happens." - Lori Adams-Brown
Some of you have a story to tell that you’ve never told anyone.
And some of you are wondering if that story should find it’s way to a journalist.
Where would you go?
How does that even work?
What all goes into the process and what do you need to know to make it out on the other side?
Today I’m joined by two friends who answer those questions as we pull back the curtain to show you what it’s like to go on the record for a journalist.
Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with journalist Julie Roys to share their stories of abuse in the church. In this episode:
1. How they decided to go public with their story of abuse. What was the process like? What were their concerns? How did they navigate the process? 2. The role of investigative journalism in exposing the darkness and restoring the church: How did they choose a reporter? What were the expectations? What was the interview process like? 3. The consequences of speaking out: How did they prepare for the backlash? What were some of the criticisms they faced?
Links:
Lori Harding's story-
https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/
https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/
Lori Adams-Brown story-
https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/
https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/
Related Episodes:
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/
Support the show:
Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com
Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith
This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled
Where you can find me:
Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com
https://instagram.com/untangledfaith
https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz
https://twitter.com/faithuntangled
Host/Creator: Amy Fritz
Producers:
Michele Pjanic
Phil and Susan Perdue
Pam Forsythe
Chelle Taylor
"We did this out of love to protect sheep. Exposing the darkness to the light is how it happens." - Lori Adams-Brown
Some of you have a story to tell that you’ve never told anyone.
And some of you are wondering if that story should find it’s way to a journalist.
Where would you go?
How does that even work?
What all goes into the process and what do you need to know to make it out on the other side?
Today I’m joined by two friends who answer those questions as we pull back the curtain to show you what it’s like to go on the record for a journalist.
Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with journalist Julie Roys to share their stories of abuse in the church. In this episode:
1. How they decided to go public with their story of abuse. What was the process like? What were their concerns? How did they navigate the process? 2. The role of investigative journalism in exposing the darkness and restoring the church: How did they choose a reporter? What were the expectations? What was the interview process like? 3. The consequences of speaking out: How did they prepare for the backlash? What were some of the criticisms they faced?
Links:
Lori Harding's story-
https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/
https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/
Lori Adams-Brown story-
https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/
https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/
Related Episodes:
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/
Support the show:
Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com
Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith
This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled
Where you can find me:
Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com
https://instagram.com/untangledfaith
https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz
https://twitter.com/faithuntangled
Host/Creator: Amy Fritz
Producers:
Michele Pjanic
Phil and Susan Perdue
Pam Forsythe
Chelle Taylor
Previous Episode

68: Navigating the Third Way in a Polarized Political Climate. Guest: Robin Jester Wootton
After spending her twenties running away from the church, Robin Wootton finds hope through a PCA church. And then it all started to crumble. Robin's husband (a PCA pastor) was fired while the COVID pandemic raged. In the subsequent months and years, she's given a lot of consideration to the false neutrality of the church's leadership. "We're never called to be neutral." In this episode, you will learn the following:
1. Presbyterian Church in America Problems 2. How the church saved Robin Wootton and her experience of the PCA. 3. The concept of a "third way" or "both sides" approach and Peacemaking in the church. 4. The consequences of Robin Wootton and her husband's attempt to challenge power dynamics in the PCA.
"Laboring in a context where the middle ground has the most power, we're always going to be pitched as the extreme on one side. Someone like me will always be seen as an extremist."
"If you can picture a place where Tim Keller is seen as an extreme progressive liberal, then you understand the context I'm in."
"Are there people who are laboring in good faith who see things I can't see?"
Links:
Robin's book: Carrying Casseroles on Motorcycles: The Risk and Rewards of Balancing the Church https://amzn.to/3HmnL04
Robin's website: the wife & times of Reverend Wootton – a blog about faith, hope, and mostly love (wordpress.com)- https://robinwootton.wordpress.com
Redeeming Power by Dr. Diane Langberg https://amzn.to/3RnAEM0
Related Episodes:
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2022/09/21/56-the-reshaping-of-the-american-church-guest-bob-smietana/
Support the show:
Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com
Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith
This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled
Where you can find me:
Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com
https://instagram.com/untangledfaith
https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz
https://twitter.com/faithuntangled
Host/Creator: Amy Fritz
Producers:
Michele Pjanic
Phil and Susan Perdue
Pam Forsythe
Chelle Taylor
Next Episode

70: Whistleblowing On The Record: Lori Harding & Lori Adams-Brown’s Experience
What happened when Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding courageously revealed the truth about abuse of power in the church?
Lori Adams-Brown shares more about speaking on the record with Julie Roys about her experience with Pastor Andy Wood, successor to Rick Warren at Saddleback Church.
Lori Harding shares about speaking on the record with Julie Roys about her experience with Coral Ridge Presbyterian Church. "We do what we can with what we know, and that is a courageous act of faith." -Lori Adams-Brown Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with a journalist to share their experiences with abusive and unhealthy leaders in the church. They both have a deep love for Jesus and a desire to bring justice and healing to those who have been hurt. Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding found the courage to speak out despite the personal risk. In this episode, you will learn the following: 1. What was it like to wait for their stories to be shared? 2. What they would have done differently. 3. Advice to those considering speaking out.
Links:
Lori Harding's story-
https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/
https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/
Lori Adams-Brown story-
https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/
https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/
Related Episodes:
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2023/02/08/69going-on-the-record-with-lori-adams-brown-lori-harding-trust-trauma-telling-your-story/
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/
Support the show:
Subscribe to my newsletter: https://untangledfaith.substack.com
Join us on Patreon: https://patreon.com/untangledfaith
This podcast is sponsored by Faithful Counseling. For more information and for 10% off your first month, visit Faithful Counseling- https://faithfulcounseling.com/untangled
Where you can find me:
Youtube channel- https://youtube.com/channel/UCPfFk-I6QShXXvEpSFaJOvg
https://untangledfaithpodcast.com
https://instagram.com/untangledfaith
https://instagram.com/amyhenningfritz
https://twitter.com/faithuntangled
Host/Creator: Amy Fritz
Producers:
Michele Pjanic
Phil and Susan Perdue
Pam Forsythe
Chelle Taylor
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