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Thank you so much, Lori, for your time, insight, courage and leadership in today’s episode! We join you in your calls to action, listeners, let’s:

1. Contact Saddleback & call for Andy to stand down (@saddlebackchurch or https://saddleback.com/visit/about/contact-us)
2. Email Filipe at Echo ([email protected]) to release all NDAs or sign the petition Lori created that has over 1500 signatures already!
3. Use public channels (#southernbaptist) to call on the SBC to let women speak (or email them at https://www.sbc.net/contact/)

Below are links to references Lori made in the episode:

Her story as reported in the Roys Report with access to more articles on Andy Wood, Rick Warren, Saddleback and the SBC.

Lori and her husband Jason Adams-Brown share their story in long-form on Lori’s podcast “World of Difference” (Part 1 of 6)

Two (of many) sides of Andy Wood: opening to a sermon given in FL (May 2021) while pastoring in CA.

Book: A Church Called TOV

D.A.R.V.O. stands for Deny, Attack, Reverse, Victim & Offender. More information is readily available with a DARVO Google search

Hillsong Expose TV Series

Shiny, Happy People Documentary on the Duggars

Christianity Today podcast on Mark Discoll “Rise & Fall of Mars Hill”

In this special episode, Lori Adams-Brown and Corey talk a great deal about Lori and her husband Jason's experience with spiritual abuse while working at Echo Church under Pastor Andy Wood. In an astonishing turn of events, Wood was hired as Rick Warren's successor at megachurch Saddleback. (To this date, Saddleback has not reversed - one could say "repented of" - their decision to hire Andy Wood. In fact, the tactics the church leaders have deployed to dismiss the charges and even vilify those who've come forward with credible accounts of abuse is chilling.)

But that's not all we discussed. We also covered Lori's remarkable background having grown up as a "missionary kid" in different parts of the world; her incredible experience over the course of many years aiding in disaster relief; how Lori is now helping others through her coaching and mentoring practice; ways we Christians can decolonize through "cultural humility"; how certain churches pressure or coerce exiting employees into signing Non-Disclosure Agreements (aka NDAs); how systems in the Evangelical Industrial Complex are designed for narcissists to come in; and so much more.

Lori Adams-Brown is a combination of international speaker, business executive, podcaster, and relief and development expert. She hosts a wonderful podcast called A World of Difference, celebrating humanity’s unique differences and encouraging us all to make a difference around the world. Since growing up in international schools in Costa Rica and Venezuela, Lori has spent her career working in Indonesia, Singapore and the San Francisco Bay Area. She worked in disaster relief in the 2004 Indonesian tsunami where she consulted with the UN coordination efforts, and she has spoken to audiences all over the U.S. and all around the world. Lori also speaks 6 languages, and brings a rare multicultural perspective to all her work.

www.loriadamsbrown.com

a-world-of-difference.captivate.fm

julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/

religionnews.com/2022/08/01/church-conflict-or-spiritual-abuse-saddleback-echo-wood-driscoll-reyes/

"We did this out of love to protect sheep. Exposing the darkness to the light is how it happens." - Lori Adams-Brown

Some of you have a story to tell that you’ve never told anyone.

And some of you are wondering if that story should find it’s way to a journalist.

Where would you go?

How does that even work?

What all goes into the process and what do you need to know to make it out on the other side?

Today I’m joined by two friends who answer those questions as we pull back the curtain to show you what it’s like to go on the record for a journalist.

Lori Adams-Brown and Lori Harding are two courageous women who have gone on the record with journalist Julie Roys to share their stories of abuse in the church. In this episode:

1. How they decided to go public with their story of abuse. What was the process like? What were their concerns? How did they navigate the process? 2. The role of investigative journalism in exposing the darkness and restoring the church: How did they choose a reporter? What were the expectations? What was the interview process like? 3. The consequences of speaking out: How did they prepare for the backlash? What were some of the criticisms they faced?

Links:

Lori Harding's story-

https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-1/

https://julieroys.com/podcast/survivor-claims-spiritual-abuse-at-coral-ridge-presbyterian-part-2/

Lori Adams-Brown story-

https://julieroys.com/alleged-victims-challenge-report-clearing-rick-warren-successor-abuse/

https://julieroys.com/former-staffers-expose-bullying-rick-warren-successor-andy-wood/

Related Episodes:

https://untangledfaithpodcast.com/2021/12/15/26-what-about-bob-an-interview-with-religion-journalist-bob-smietana/

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Lori Adams-Brown is a woman on a mission to improve systems that increase inclusion by using her cross-cultural skills and 6 languages to build high performing teams that bring sustainable change around the world. In this episode, Denise & Lori talk about the importance of inclusion in the workplace and how generational assumptions can prevent authentic growth in teams.

Lori is a strategic, innovative global ambassador of change with over 20 years leadership experience in diversity, inclusion, cross-functional operations management and people and human capital management. Find out more about Lori's work through her podcast A World of Difference!

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