
How YouTube Works for Music
01/15/25 • 74 min
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This week Ari sits down with George Karalexis & Donna Budica, the co-founders and CEO/COO (respectively) of TEN2 Media, a content distribution and marketing company that helps artists and labels maximize revenue and growth on YouTube. TEN2 Media partners with Warner Music Group, UnitedMasters, Travis Barker, Benson Boone, Brent Faiyaz, and more. They specialize in marketing, monetization, and collection on the YouTube platform, all of which you’ll hear about in this episode.
This entire episode is dedicated to YouTube for music—artists and labels in particular. Donna and George share stats about how listeners interact with YouTube, how people discover new music on the platform, and what it means that YouTube is the #1 music discovery platform right now. They break down the components of YouTube monetization and do a deep dive into companies that help artists manage their YouTube channels and revenue. If you’re wondering how to up your YouTube game, the most effective ways to use YouTube these days, and all the various tools that exist on the platform (shorts, music videos, vlog content, lyric videos, playlists, storytelling, UGC [user-generated content], etc.), this is the episode for you.
Kristin Robinson Billboard Article: How Did Two Unknown Latin Music Operators Make $23 Million From YouTube? The IRS Says They Stole It
Chapters
00:00 The Evolution of YouTube in Music
03:13 Understanding YouTube's Unique Role
06:02 Strategies for Artists on YouTube
08:49 The Power of YouTube Analytics
12:07 Monetization Mechanics on YouTube
15:00 Navigating YouTube's Revenue Streams
37:12 Understanding YouTube's Viewer Demographics
40:09 The Evolution of Cover Videos and UGC
42:55 The Long Game: YouTube vs. TikTok
43:51 Strategies for Emerging Artists
48:03 Navigating YouTube's Complex Revenue System
56:13 The Future of Distribution for Indie Artists
01:01:25 Filling the Void for Emerging Artists
01:09:01 When to Start Taking YouTube Seriously
01:12:07 Defining Success in the New Music Business
Edited and mixed by Ari Davids
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
This week Ari sits down with George Karalexis & Donna Budica, the co-founders and CEO/COO (respectively) of TEN2 Media, a content distribution and marketing company that helps artists and labels maximize revenue and growth on YouTube. TEN2 Media partners with Warner Music Group, UnitedMasters, Travis Barker, Benson Boone, Brent Faiyaz, and more. They specialize in marketing, monetization, and collection on the YouTube platform, all of which you’ll hear about in this episode.
This entire episode is dedicated to YouTube for music—artists and labels in particular. Donna and George share stats about how listeners interact with YouTube, how people discover new music on the platform, and what it means that YouTube is the #1 music discovery platform right now. They break down the components of YouTube monetization and do a deep dive into companies that help artists manage their YouTube channels and revenue. If you’re wondering how to up your YouTube game, the most effective ways to use YouTube these days, and all the various tools that exist on the platform (shorts, music videos, vlog content, lyric videos, playlists, storytelling, UGC [user-generated content], etc.), this is the episode for you.
Kristin Robinson Billboard Article: How Did Two Unknown Latin Music Operators Make $23 Million From YouTube? The IRS Says They Stole It
Chapters
00:00 The Evolution of YouTube in Music
03:13 Understanding YouTube's Unique Role
06:02 Strategies for Artists on YouTube
08:49 The Power of YouTube Analytics
12:07 Monetization Mechanics on YouTube
15:00 Navigating YouTube's Revenue Streams
37:12 Understanding YouTube's Viewer Demographics
40:09 The Evolution of Cover Videos and UGC
42:55 The Long Game: YouTube vs. TikTok
43:51 Strategies for Emerging Artists
48:03 Navigating YouTube's Complex Revenue System
56:13 The Future of Distribution for Indie Artists
01:01:25 Filling the Void for Emerging Artists
01:09:01 When to Start Taking YouTube Seriously
01:12:07 Defining Success in the New Music Business
Edited and mixed by Ari Davids
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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Cody Fry on Leaving a Major Record Label and Finding His Niche Fronting Orchestras
This week Ari sits down with Cody Fry, a multi-instrumentalist, singer, songwriter, and orchestral arranger known for his symphonic arrangements of his own music and other artists’ songs. Cody has been nominated for two grammys for arranging: this year for his adaptation of “The Sound of Silence” and previously for “Eleanor Rigby.” An incredible musician all around, Cody has found his niche fronting orchestras in a way that appeals to pop music lovers around the world.
Cody has played Walt Disney Concert Hall with the Hollywood Bowl Orchestra, the Kennedy Center, and has hundreds of millions of streams online. In 2021, his song “I Hear a Symphony” (which had already been out for five years) went viral on TikTok and landed Cody a major record deal. In this episode, Cody talks about what it was like working with a major label and the specifics of his record deal. He also tells Ari why he decided to eventually leave the label and go independent once again.
Chapters
00:00 The Artist's Journey: From Aspiration to Independence
02:50 Cody Fry: The Orchestral Innovator
06:02 Crafting Sound: The Art of Orchestration
08:52 Finding Your Unique Sound as an Artist
11:58 The Viral Breakthrough: TikTok and Its Impact
15:08 Navigating Record Deals: Insights and Experiences
18:02 The Transition to Independence: A New Chapter
20:52 Performing with Orchestras: A Unique Experience
23:55 The Future of Music: Independence and Innovation
39:54 Navigating the Music Business Without a Manager
42:44 The Importance of Team Members in Music
43:14 Non-Traditional Team Members and Their Roles
46:07 Managing Sheet Music and Publishing Rights
54:35 Exploring Alternative Revenue Streams for Artists
01:01:09 Creating Engaging Content for a Niche Audience
01:04:02 Future Aspirations and New Music Projects
01:08:13 Understanding the Value of Record Deals
01:19:37 The Evolving Landscape of the Music Business
Edited and mixed by Ari Davids
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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He Wrote/Produced 10 #1 Hit Songs: Stargate's Tor Hermansen on How To Do It
This week Ari sits down with Tor Hermansen, half of the production/songwriter duo Stargate. Stargate has written and produced major hit songs for artists such as Beyonce, Rihanna, Selena Gomez, Katy Perry, and Coldplay, to name a few. Tor has billions of streams, has written and produced 10 Billboard Hot 100 #1 singles in the US and 11 in the UK. He has won 2 Grammy Awards and received the ASCAP songwriter of the year award twice. Stargate’s writer and producer credits include Beyoncé’s global hit “Irreplaceable,” Beyoncé and Shakira’s “Beautiful Liar,” extensive work with Rihanna including “Rude Boy,” “Don’t Stop The Music,” “Only Girl (In the World),” What’s My Name, “S&M, “Diamonds,” Selena Gomez’ “Come & Get It” and “Same Old Love,” Fifth Harmony’s “Worth It” and Katy Perry’s “Firework.” Most recently, the team produced Coldplay’s album A Head Full of Dreams, co-wrote and produced Julia Michael’s current hit “Issues.”
Tor talks about the process of songwriting and producing, working with artists and topliners. He shares great advice on how to write and work in the room with other songwriters, producers, and topliners. Tor also shares valuable insight on demoing, writing, re-writing, scaling up a musical production, and more. Ari and Tor dive deep into the business end of songwriting and producing as well; they discuss the 9-month intensive LAAMP program (Los Angeles Academy for Artists and Music Producers) Tor and his Stargate partner Mikkel Eriksen created for aspiring artists, songwriters, and producers in LA and how to get involved. If you’re interested in how songwriting and producing works at the hit level, this episode is for you!
https://www.instagram.com/stargate/
Chapters
00:00 No Compromising in Music Creation
00:33 Introduction to Tora Hermanson and Stargate
02:51 Songwriting and Production Process Insights
04:41 The Evolution of Music Production
10:19 The Pitch Game: Is It Dead?
13:14 Identifying a Hit: The Unpredictable Nature
16:03 The Role of Social Media in Music Success
18:52 Adapting to New Mediums: TikTok and Streaming
21:27 The Creation of 'Issues' with Julia Michaels
24:41 Evolving Production Techniques
27:51 Collaboration and Song Development
30:33 Creative Freedom in the Final Product
32:11 The Art of Collaboration in Songwriting
37:01 Navigating the Songwriting Process
46:59 The Business of Songwriting and Representation
49:16 Building a Career as a Songwriter
56:45 Creating a Nurturing Environment for Artists
01:04:50 Defining Success in the New Music Business
Edited and mixed by Ari Davids
Music by Brassroots District
Produced by the team at Ari’s Take
Order the THIRD EDITION of How to Make It in the New Music Business: https://book.aristake.com
Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.
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