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The Near Memo - Clicks Are Dead, Reviews Are King: Surviving Google’s AI Local Shakeup

Clicks Are Dead, Reviews Are King: Surviving Google’s AI Local Shakeup

05/30/25 • 39 min

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In this jam-packed episode of The Near Memo, hosts Greg Sterling and Mike Blumenthal welcome back Adam Dorfman, VP of Product at BirdEye, for a timely deep dive into the ever-shifting world of local SEO, AI Overviews, and Google’s evolving search ecosystem.

The trio unpacks the seismic shifts happening in local search, AI-generated results, and the new metrics that matter when “clicks” no longer rule. From how Google is leveraging its own ecosystem to dominate AI outputs, to whether schema markup, directories, or social media still matter, this episode serves up unfiltered takes and battle-tested advice for marketers, SEOs, and local business owners alike.

🚨 Top Themes Covered:

  • Google’s AI Overviews: Why AI is rewriting the search interface and what it means for local visibility.
  • Urban vs. Rural Search Results: Why AI tools like ChatGPT might actually outperform Google Maps in lower-density areas.
  • The End of Organic?: Google’s AI results are now 100% GBP (Google Business Profile) driven—with nearly zero room for traditional website links.
  • Reviews Are the New Backlinks: How first- and third-party reviews (especially on platforms like Yelp and TripAdvisor) are now critical ranking factors in AI models.
  • The Fragmented Funnel: TikTok and Instagram are eating the top of the funnel—Google is now the validator, not the discoverer.
  • Metrics Reimagined: Why clicks are increasingly meaningless, and what to track instead—from CRM tie-ins to survey data and outcome-based KPIs.
  • AI’s Role in Product & Strategy: How BirdEye and other platforms are rethinking their offerings to embed AI into every layer—from insights to actions.
  • Old-School SEO vs. AI Optimization: Turns out, best practices haven’t changed much—good local SEO still wins, but it’s more critical than ever to focus on outcomes, not vanity metrics.

💡 Key Takeaways:

  • Local search isn’t dead—it’s evolving. AI is changing the game, but the fundamentals still matter: strong reviews, simple websites, quality listings, and running a great business.
  • Your website still matters, even if it’s not driving direct clicks. It’s a core data source for AI and a validator for customers making high-stakes decisions.
  • Directory presence is back in fashion—especially for verticals like travel, dining, and services. Yelp and TripAdvisor are still powerful in AI outputs.
  • Forget tips and tricks. Stop obsessing over how to game AI results. Focus on real marketing, customer feedback, and operational excellence.
  • AI visibility tracking is a new frontier. Ranking reports may be making a comeback—not for traffic predictions, but for understanding how you show up in AI-generated lists.

📣 Whether you’re an SEO veteran, a SaaS marketer, a multi-location brand, or just trying to figure out where to spend your next marketing dollar, this episode offers tactical wisdom and strategic clarity on where local search is headed—and how to stay ahead.

🎧 Brought to you by GatherUp – our thanks to this episode’s sponsor and a trusted leader in reputation management.

Subscribe to The Near Memo for weekly insights at the intersection of search, social, local, and reputation.

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Have questions or feedback? Drop us a note at [email protected]

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In this jam-packed episode of The Near Memo, hosts Greg Sterling and Mike Blumenthal welcome back Adam Dorfman, VP of Product at BirdEye, for a timely deep dive into the ever-shifting world of local SEO, AI Overviews, and Google’s evolving search ecosystem.

The trio unpacks the seismic shifts happening in local search, AI-generated results, and the new metrics that matter when “clicks” no longer rule. From how Google is leveraging its own ecosystem to dominate AI outputs, to whether schema markup, directories, or social media still matter, this episode serves up unfiltered takes and battle-tested advice for marketers, SEOs, and local business owners alike.

🚨 Top Themes Covered:

  • Google’s AI Overviews: Why AI is rewriting the search interface and what it means for local visibility.
  • Urban vs. Rural Search Results: Why AI tools like ChatGPT might actually outperform Google Maps in lower-density areas.
  • The End of Organic?: Google’s AI results are now 100% GBP (Google Business Profile) driven—with nearly zero room for traditional website links.
  • Reviews Are the New Backlinks: How first- and third-party reviews (especially on platforms like Yelp and TripAdvisor) are now critical ranking factors in AI models.
  • The Fragmented Funnel: TikTok and Instagram are eating the top of the funnel—Google is now the validator, not the discoverer.
  • Metrics Reimagined: Why clicks are increasingly meaningless, and what to track instead—from CRM tie-ins to survey data and outcome-based KPIs.
  • AI’s Role in Product & Strategy: How BirdEye and other platforms are rethinking their offerings to embed AI into every layer—from insights to actions.
  • Old-School SEO vs. AI Optimization: Turns out, best practices haven’t changed much—good local SEO still wins, but it’s more critical than ever to focus on outcomes, not vanity metrics.

💡 Key Takeaways:

  • Local search isn’t dead—it’s evolving. AI is changing the game, but the fundamentals still matter: strong reviews, simple websites, quality listings, and running a great business.
  • Your website still matters, even if it’s not driving direct clicks. It’s a core data source for AI and a validator for customers making high-stakes decisions.
  • Directory presence is back in fashion—especially for verticals like travel, dining, and services. Yelp and TripAdvisor are still powerful in AI outputs.
  • Forget tips and tricks. Stop obsessing over how to game AI results. Focus on real marketing, customer feedback, and operational excellence.
  • AI visibility tracking is a new frontier. Ranking reports may be making a comeback—not for traffic predictions, but for understanding how you show up in AI-generated lists.

📣 Whether you’re an SEO veteran, a SaaS marketer, a multi-location brand, or just trying to figure out where to spend your next marketing dollar, this episode offers tactical wisdom and strategic clarity on where local search is headed—and how to stay ahead.

🎧 Brought to you by GatherUp – our thanks to this episode’s sponsor and a trusted leader in reputation management.

Subscribe to The Near Memo for weekly insights at the intersection of search, social, local, and reputation.

▶️ Follow us on:

  • YouTube
  • Apple Podcasts
  • Spotify
  • LinkedIn

Have questions or feedback? Drop us a note at [email protected]

Subscribe to our newsletters and other content at https://www.nearmedia.co/subscribe/

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SEO Tactics from the Frontline: Real User Behavior in AI Overviews - Part 2 of the UX Study Analysis

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Welcome to Part 2 of our deep dive into the most revealing SEO and UX research of 2025.
In this episode of the Near Memo podcast, Greg Sterling, Kevin Indig, and Eric Van Buskirk break down how users actually interact with AI Overviews on Google—and what that means for your SEO strategy moving forward.

00:55 – “Trust over Traffic: The SEO Paradigm Shift”
02:10 – “SEO as Traffic Cop, Not Traffic Driver”
03:33 – “Reddit, YouTube & Beyond: Tactical SEO Musts”
07:20 – “Google Killed the Small Guys”
09:05 – “Google’s Fear-Driven Strategy”
11:14 – “Redefining SEO Inside the Org”
12:03 – “Click Recession and the Future of Metrics”
13:31 – “Pitching the New SEO to Leadership”
17:17 – “People Don’t Know LSAs Are Ads”
20:22 – “Gen Z, TikTok, and the Platform Migration”
22:23 – “ChatGPT Is the Train—You’re the Station”
▶️ Missed Part 1? Watch it here → https://youtu.be/pjE3MwOLYcg

🔥 What’s Inside This Episode:
In this second installment, we focus on the tactical and organizational implications of new user behavior patterns revealed through a qualitative usability study. The study recorded and analyzed nearly 30 hours of real-world search behavior, and the findings are reshaping how smart marketers think about organic search, AI, and branding.
From “click stagflation” to platform diversification, this episode delivers hard truths and actionable insights.
🧠 Top Insights You’ll Take Away:
• SEO isn’t dead—it’s evolved. Traditional traffic metrics are no longer reliable indicators of success.
• Trust is now the first filter. Users skim, scroll, and click based on what (and who) they recognize and believe in.
• Clicks ≠ Conversions. Welcome to the era of “click stagflation”—less traffic, but stable (or growing) business results.
• Google is reacting, not leading. The rise of Reddit, YouTube, and AI Overviews is a defensive move to hold onto users.
• Local trust signals matter more than ever. LSAs win clicks because users don’t realize they’re ads—they just trust the stars.
• Brand awareness is the new SEO moat. If users don’t know or trust you before they search, you likely won’t earn their click.
• SEO must align with social, content, and UX. It’s time for cross-functional “growth teams” that reflect real user journeys.

🔗 Links & Resources:
📄 Full transcript of Part 2 →
📄 Part 1: Study methodology + foundational insights → https://youtu.be/pjE3MwOLYcg
🧪 Read the study by Kevin Indig and Eric Van Buskirk → https://www.growth-memo.com/p/the-first-ever-ux-study-of-googles?ref=nearmedia.co
🎙️ More from Near Memo →https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLmqwyOgNILWrALQo5FVdB6zlaEJiVyKS_

💬 What do YOU think?
Are you still measuring SEO success with clicks? Have you updated your strategy for AI Overviews and multi-platform journeys? Drop your thoughts or questions below—let’s talk.

👍 Like, 💬 Comment, and 🔔 Subscribe to get more straight talk on search, SEO, and local marketing every week.
#SEO #AIOverviews #DigitalMarketing #SearchTrends #ContentStrategy #GoogleSearch #UserExperience #NearMemo #KevinIndig #EricVanBuskirk #GregSterling #UXResearch #ChatGPT #TikTokSearch #TrustEconomy

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