
027 - Building a Non-Profit from Scratch: Suzie Sawyer, C.O.P.S. founder
05/02/22 • 38 min
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Today we're talking to Suzie Sawyer, the founder of Concerns of Police Survivors (COPS). She tells us how as a law enforcement spouse in the 1970's and later, she took charge and met a need that law enforcement culture was failing to do on its own. With her great sense of humor and purpose, she relates the inspirational story of how she built an organization from scratch that would memorialize fallen officers and take care of their widows and families.
Listen to how law enforcement leadership made the wrong assumptions about grieving families. And don't miss what Suzie identifies as the biggest obstacle to concerns of police survivors doing this good work.
Links and resources:
- Maryland C.O.P.S. www.mdcops.org
- National C.O.P.S. www.nationalcops.org
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Music is by Chris Haugen
Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 027
The title of this episode was changed in January 2023.
Thanks for Listening! And, as always, pray for peace in our city.
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- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-chaplain/id1570155168
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CGK9A3BmbFEUEnx3fYZOY
Email us at: [email protected]
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Today we're talking to Suzie Sawyer, the founder of Concerns of Police Survivors (COPS). She tells us how as a law enforcement spouse in the 1970's and later, she took charge and met a need that law enforcement culture was failing to do on its own. With her great sense of humor and purpose, she relates the inspirational story of how she built an organization from scratch that would memorialize fallen officers and take care of their widows and families.
Listen to how law enforcement leadership made the wrong assumptions about grieving families. And don't miss what Suzie identifies as the biggest obstacle to concerns of police survivors doing this good work.
Links and resources:
- Maryland C.O.P.S. www.mdcops.org
- National C.O.P.S. www.nationalcops.org
Subscribe/Follow here:
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-chaplain/id1570155168
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CGK9A3BmbFEUEnx3fYZOY
Music is by Chris Haugen
Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 027
The title of this episode was changed in January 2023.
Thanks for Listening! And, as always, pray for peace in our city.
Subscribe/Follow here:
- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-chaplain/id1570155168
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CGK9A3BmbFEUEnx3fYZOY
Email us at: [email protected]
You can help keep the show ad-free by buying me a virtual coffee!
https://www.buymeacoffee.com/heychaplain
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026 - Army Investigations and VIP Protection: David Renfro, Army CID (w/ Matt Rayburn)
This episode reveals a previously unheard portion of our interview with David Renfro, from Episode 016. Today he talks about the Army Criminal Investigation Division (CID). The United States Army Criminal Investigation Division is a federal law enforcement agency within the Army which investigates felonies and provides Secret Service-like VIP protection on and off the battlefield.
We're also joined by Matt Rayburn, another veteran of Army CID who worked with David and explains further about the mission of CID.
Hear David's previous episode Episode 016 - The Feds You've Never Heard Of: David Renfro, TIGTA
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Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-chaplain/id1570155168
Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CGK9A3BmbFEUEnx3fYZOY
Music is by Chris Haugen and also by Winking Fox Music from Pixebay.
Hey Chaplain Podcast Episode 026
Thanks for Listening! And, as always, pray for peace in our city.
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- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-chaplain/id1570155168
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CGK9A3BmbFEUEnx3fYZOY
Email us at: [email protected]
You can help keep the show ad-free by buying me a virtual coffee!
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A Chaplain's First Ride Along: Jeremiah Holcomb - Bonus Ep 7
How do you do a ride along? Today we talk to Jeremiah Holcomb, a new chaplain who just completed his first ride along. Ride alongs are all about building the relationship between the chaplain and police officers. It's perhaps the best way for chaplains to genuinely experience their world, increasing understanding and building rapport and trust.
The Ride Along Tips I messaged to Jeremiah:
- Try to do the whole shift.
- Ask about the first aid kit in the car, if the officer carries a tourniquet (& where), other safety equipment
- When asking questions and making conversation, be aware the cop is also listening to the radio
- Tell the officer you'll obey their commands; at most you'll provide another set of eyes.
- When an officer knocks on a door, stand where you can see two sides of the house.
- Don't touch anything, but you can point things out.
- Don't be a distraction if at all possible; stay in the car, or at least out of the way, during traffic stops - some cops hate ride alongs because they are distracted taking care of the civilian's safety
- Don't promise citizens anything because you don't know for sure
Music is by Chris Haugen
Hey Chaplain Podcast Bonus Episode 7
Thanks for Listening! And, as always, pray for peace in our city.
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- Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/hey-chaplain/id1570155168
- Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/2CGK9A3BmbFEUEnx3fYZOY
Email us at: [email protected]
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