
'We Were Told This Will Never Work' ROB WALLIS, Co-Founder of Moth Drinks, the UK’s No.1 Margarita On No-Fear, Raising Capital, Pivoting Format & USA Ambitions #18
09/04/24 • 50 min
It takes years to make an overnight success, and when that success is sparked by your ‘first and only good idea’, you can’t help but think it’s something truly special.
Moth Drinks boldly leads its category, flying the flag for the RTD market. At its helm, Co-Founder Rob Wallis has a laser focus on doing one thing well - and they do it so unbelievably well...
Rob joins Jamie this week to share the secrets behind that iconic can, the UK vs US’ unique challenges, how to blend data with gut feel, and how to exploit your unfair advantages.
This episode covers
- Blending gut feel and data-driven decisions for the perfect results
- The two ways of doing new product development
- The psychology of why Covid was a turning point in consumer behaviour
- Differences in the category between the UK and the US
- Creating a culture that works when you’re not in the room
- How to give yourself unfair advantages
Moth Drinks: https://mothdrinks.com/https://
www.instagram.com/mothdrinks/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/mothdrinks/
Rob Wallis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%8D%B8-rob-wallis-162801113/
Jamie Holtum: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-holtum-85b79634/
Learn more and follow the journey at: https://www.hainesmcgregor.co.uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/haines-mcgregor/
https://www.instagram.com/hainesmcgregor
It takes years to make an overnight success, and when that success is sparked by your ‘first and only good idea’, you can’t help but think it’s something truly special.
Moth Drinks boldly leads its category, flying the flag for the RTD market. At its helm, Co-Founder Rob Wallis has a laser focus on doing one thing well - and they do it so unbelievably well...
Rob joins Jamie this week to share the secrets behind that iconic can, the UK vs US’ unique challenges, how to blend data with gut feel, and how to exploit your unfair advantages.
This episode covers
- Blending gut feel and data-driven decisions for the perfect results
- The two ways of doing new product development
- The psychology of why Covid was a turning point in consumer behaviour
- Differences in the category between the UK and the US
- Creating a culture that works when you’re not in the room
- How to give yourself unfair advantages
Moth Drinks: https://mothdrinks.com/https://
www.instagram.com/mothdrinks/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/mothdrinks/
Rob Wallis: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%F0%9F%8D%B8-rob-wallis-162801113/
Jamie Holtum: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-holtum-85b79634/
Learn more and follow the journey at: https://www.hainesmcgregor.co.uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/haines-mcgregor/
https://www.instagram.com/hainesmcgregor
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“Telling The Truth Doesn’t Make You Very Popular.” PAUL THOMAS on Radical Candour & Why Honesty and Trust Are The Foundation for Commercial Success’ #17
Paul Thomas’ honesty is an unstoppable force; his truth might make for uncomfortable listening, but it’s the only way he knows.
He’s amassed experience with Asahi, Guinness, Peroni and currently resides with Suntory, and has walked both sides of the client-agency line - so rare is it to hold so many insights within a single human brain...
Paul joins us on You, Me & CPG to break down the power that trust and honesty give you, he dispenses relationship counselling for research consultants struggling with brands, and gets to the root of marketing’s perception problem.
This episode covers
- The downside to ‘radical candour’
- Why marketing is described as ‘an industry full of lies and charlatanism’
- How to make research sexy
- The worst relationship that researchers can have with a company
- Being your full, unfiltered self in the corporate world
Paul Thomas: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-thomas-8b903025/
Jamie Holtum: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-holtum-85b79634/
Learn more and follow the journey at: https://www.hainesmcgregor.co.uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/haines-mcgregor/
https://www.instagram.com/hainesmcgregor
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OLIPOP: Taking On The Giants #19
David Lester’s career would be impressive enough from the past alone, but Olipop’s conquest of the US cements his efforts as a tour de force.
The prebiotic, RTD soda brand is a poster child for startup success, hot off the back of a decade in global experience, giving David an invaluable perspective like no other.
Join us on You, Me & CPG as we discover his great influences, California’s wonderful relationship with business failure, and why compounding decisions can be the difference in whether you sink or swim.
This episode covers
- The source of David’s sense of adventure
- Being wired to become an entrepreneur
- California’s VC haven and can-do mentality
- Why your bad decisions compound just the same as your good ones
- Learning through failure
- David’s view of accountability as empowerment
David Lester: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-lester-4b71b512/
Olipop: https://drinkolipop.com/
https://www.instagram.com/drinkolipop/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/olipop-pbc/
Jamie Holtum: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-holtum-85b79634/
Learn more and follow the journey at: https://www.hainesmcgregor.co.uk/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/haines-mcgregor/
https://www.instagram.com/hainesmcgregor
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