
Aligning Sales and Marketing on Content with Catarina Hoch, VP Marketing at Operatix
10/20/23 • 31 min
This week, we sat down with Catarina Hoch, the VP of Global Marketing at Operatix. We dive into the complicated relationship between the sales and marketing team and how content needs to align across the two. Catarina also explains why content is becoming more and more important and why you first need to create crap content and learn from it, before creating good content.
We cover a lot of good stuff with Cat, so grab a coffee and get listening.
--- What we discuss ---
An introduction to Cat
The blend - Content strategies to fuel growth
Talk to your Sales team
Social proof & wisdom of the crowd
How to know if a piece of content has been successful
Matt’s bangers - Catarina shares a great piece of Operatix content
Sausage of death - She also shares her sausage of death, a piece of content that she’s not the most proud of
Next on The Sausage Factory
--- Connections —
Catarina Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%E2%99%BE%EF%B8%8F-catarina-hoch-a7476646/?originalSubdomain=uk
Rockee Twitter: https://twitter.com/Rockee_io
Rockee Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rockee/
This week, we sat down with Catarina Hoch, the VP of Global Marketing at Operatix. We dive into the complicated relationship between the sales and marketing team and how content needs to align across the two. Catarina also explains why content is becoming more and more important and why you first need to create crap content and learn from it, before creating good content.
We cover a lot of good stuff with Cat, so grab a coffee and get listening.
--- What we discuss ---
An introduction to Cat
The blend - Content strategies to fuel growth
Talk to your Sales team
Social proof & wisdom of the crowd
How to know if a piece of content has been successful
Matt’s bangers - Catarina shares a great piece of Operatix content
Sausage of death - She also shares her sausage of death, a piece of content that she’s not the most proud of
Next on The Sausage Factory
--- Connections —
Catarina Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/%E2%99%BE%EF%B8%8F-catarina-hoch-a7476646/?originalSubdomain=uk
Rockee Twitter: https://twitter.com/Rockee_io
Rockee Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rockee/
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--- Connections —
Sam’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/samdickie/
Kevin Kelly’s A Thousand True Fans: https://www.amazon.com/1000-True-Fans-Kellys-Simple-ebook/dp/B01N9P9O4G
Not Boring by Packy McCormick: https://www.notboring.co/
- First Round Capital - https://review.firstround.com/articles
The Rockee site: https://rockee.io/https://rockee.io/
Rockee Twitter: https://twitter.com/Rockee_io
Rockee Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rockee/
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--- What we discuss ---
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--- Connections —
- Glenn’s Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/glennsturgess/
- Glenn’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/bigbagofblog
- Rockee Twitter: https://twitter.com/Rockee_io\
- Rockee Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/company/rockee/
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