Natasja Pelgrom on Space Holding, Psychedelic Facilitation, and in Service with 5MeO-DMT

09/04/22 • 72 min

In this episode, Natasja Pelgrom the host of The Awaken Podcast is interviewed by Beth Weinstein from the Psychedelic Entrepreneur Podcast, tune is as they speak about...

Natasja’s attraction to energy work, shamanism, meditation, and psychedelics at a young age
How “Do no harm” should be a central tenet of all psychedelic facilitation work
The huge responsibility you have as a facilitator is to hold sacred the trust you are offered by the people you serve
Serious issues that can arise when people wanting to work with psychedelics don’t report contraindications and how this can negatively impact them, their facilitator, and the whole psychedelic ecosystem
The growing problem of people doing short facilitator training and immediately jumping into facilitation long before they have the knowledge and experience to do so
The energetic differences between male and female facilitation styles
“Cleaning” the system to help prepare people for a bufo experience so their innate healing capacity can be more easily activated
How the cleaner you are, the more you trust, and the more you trust, the more deeply you can surrender
Using a smaller “integration dose” after the main dose/s to empower and bring resilience to the psyche and nervous system
How giving super high doses of medicine can be a sign that a facilitator feels they are “not enough”, which is picked up energetically by the client/s
The need for facilitators to be able to understand their own programming and hold space without their own issues interfering

Natasja Pelgrom is a visionary leader and mystical mentor, she is the host of The Awaken Podcast and the founder of Awaken The Medicine Within, retreats and programs that support people with psycho-spiritual approaches since 2017. Natasja is a highly intuitive guide and has held training, assisting, and facilitation roles in over 800 psychedelic ceremonies. Natasja was a founding member of the Synthesis Institute and the director of the psilocybin-assisted Wellness retreats. As a key curator of retreat programs, she oversaw the retreat team development and training. She currently advises and supervises executives in the (psychedelic) wellness industry. Natasja is also a mentor to leaders, coaches, therapists, and/or space holders, where she focuses on the mind, and heart coherence to prosper in their Self-leadership. Natasja’s multifaceted mentorship approach is paired with 20+ years of entrepreneurial experience

Natasja Pelgrom’s Links & Resources

Website ▶: https://natasjapelgrom.com/
Website ▶: http://awakenthemedicinewithin.com/
https://bethaweinstein.com/podcast/natasja-pelgrom-psychedelic-facilitation-women-awakening-the-medicine-within/

In this episode, Natasja Pelgrom the host of The Awaken Podcast is interviewed by Beth Weinstein from the Psychedelic Entrepreneur Podcast, tune is as they speak about...

Natasja’s attraction to energy work, shamanism, meditation, and psychedelics at a young age
How “Do no harm” should be a central tenet of all psychedelic facilitation work
The huge responsibility you have as a facilitator is to hold sacred the trust you are offered by the people you serve
Serious issues that can arise when people wanting to work with psychedelics don’t report contraindications and how this can negatively impact them, their facilitator, and the whole psychedelic ecosystem
The growing problem of people doing short facilitator training and immediately jumping into facilitation long before they have the knowledge and experience to do so
The energetic differences between male and female facilitation styles
“Cleaning” the system to help prepare people for a bufo experience so their innate healing capacity can be more easily activated
How the cleaner you are, the more you trust, and the more you trust, the more deeply you can surrender
Using a smaller “integration dose” after the main dose/s to empower and bring resilience to the psyche and nervous system
How giving super high doses of medicine can be a sign that a facilitator feels they are “not enough”, which is picked up energetically by the client/s
The need for facilitators to be able to understand their own programming and hold space without their own issues interfering

Natasja Pelgrom’s Links & Resources

Website ▶: https://natasjapelgrom.com/
Website ▶: http://awakenthemedicinewithin.com/
https://bethaweinstein.com/podcast/natasja-pelgrom-psychedelic-facilitation-women-awakening-the-medicine-within/

Previous Episode

Natasja with Beth Weinstein on the Intersection of Psychedelics, Purpose and Conscious Entrepreneurship

The Awaken Podcast special series, Women in Psychedelics is a podcast series that does an amazing job of telling the stories of fascinating women who are currently making an impact within the psychedelic and plant healing movement.

The intention of this series is to further amplify female voices within this space. Natasja is driven by bringing to the forefront untold stories, exclusive content, and inspiration. This is about offering and celebrating the social, economic, cultural, and sometimes unseen achievements of women in this psychedelic renaissance. A way to stand together embracing our diversity for a greater Eco-system.

Meet in this episode Beth Weinstein, is a spiritual business coach, Beth Weinstein helps current and aspiring coaches, healers, Psychedelic Pioneers, and spiritual teachers align with your soul’s path and grow your business so you can help more people, Share Your Unique Medicine, and have a thriving transformational business you love.

Using her experience growing multiple businesses along with neuroscience-backed methodologies, spiritual teachings, over 30 years of experience working with entheogenic medicines, and practical business action plans, Beth offers a multi-dimensional approach to help you move past your blocks and grow your business in an impactful way that aligns with your Soul. She guides you in a simple step-by-step process using a balanced, co-creative approach combining practical business growth strategies together with spiritually-centered mindset reprogramming and leadership coaching.

Beth is the host of "The Psychedelic Entrepreneur" podcast; host of the “Psychedelics, Sacred Medicines, Purpose and Business” annual summit; was co-creator of the "Music is Medicine" festival and "Urban Ceremony", produced together with musician East Forest.

In this episode Beth discusses:

What does leadership mean?
How did psychedelics/plant medicines inform Beth’s personal virtues
How to integrate psychedelics into your transformational business
How psychedelics aren't the sollution and end goal
Stepping into one truth
Stepping out into the world of personal development and psychedelics while understanding your triggers
Psychedelic and other "Taboo" Businesses
Money, Death, and Sexual abuse need to be spoken about and come to light
What will be needed or are future roles in the psychedelic space

Book mentioned in this episode: The surrender experiment

Website: https://bethaweinstein.com/

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Business FB: www.facebook.com/BethWeinsteinbiz
Here are 2 free trainings for you:

Integrating Psychedelics & Sacred Medicines Into A Business: https://bethaweinstein.com/psychedelics-in-business

3 Steps to Get Clients & Grow a Thriving Coaching, Healing or Purpose-Based Business You Love https://bethaweinstein.com/grow-your-spiritual-business

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Next Episode

Natasja with Henk Doller on Authentic Leadership, Space Holding and Plant Medicines

Meet Henk Doller, has a Bachelor's degree HRM Trainer and Education and he started his career in 1995 as a commercial intermediary. He made the switch to the non-profit sector and as a team coordinator and trainer developed services and training in the social domain. Henk has also developed himself as a project leader for the Information Management Academy, responsible for setting up and executing interdepartmental courses in the field of government and ICT. Within these projects, he also provided modules aimed at training and strengthening personal skills. And since 2010 he serves as interim coach and trainer in the field of career, mobility, and management development.
In 2012 he was initiated in the Munay Ki healing system. It’s an energy healing system and cosmology of the peoples living in the Andes in South America and Inca shamanism. Over the years he’s had many teachings and a wide range of shamanic lineages and since 2013 leading groups and individuals 1-25 participants in Ayahuasca ceremonies and retreats. His Dutch roots eventually polled him towards Truffles containing psilocybin and have facilitated over the past 7 years indoor and outdoor ceremonies. As a retreat leader, he often combines his process with modalities such as Cocoa ceremony, meditation, silent walks, and sharing rounds. His deep passion to bridge both worlds, the mystical and organizational, is felt in all his endeavors. Henk has 26+ years of experience with one-on-one guidance and 20 years in guiding teams and groups.
In this episode Henk discusses:

What are the core principles of space holding
A spiritual journey with Plant Medicines
Munay Ki healing system initiations
How plant medicines and psychedelics inform and influence leadership qualities
The practice of being a student of life
What it means to have a judgment-free setting
Sacred feminine and masculine qualities in leadership
How can a leader influence the systems they are in with plant medicines and psychedelics
How to be present in relationships
Playing is being in the now
Walking many worlds, from cooperative to sacred medicine work
The practice of prayer

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In this episode we speak about:
Hira Hose
Documentary Stepping into the fireThe retreat where Henk is one of our space holders:
http://stewardship.awakenthemedicinewithin.com/
https://awakenthemedicinewithin.com/

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