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Reasonable Product

Reasonable Product

Salva Bocchetti

Doing product is hard. But it shouldn't be so! I've felt this pain myself and that's why I preach a reasonable approach. An approach that brings material value to the organizations, and that lets product people enjoy their work. Every couple of weeks I bring a fresh perspective to make your journey in Product Management easier and more rewarding. In the Reasonable Interviews, I interview product thought leaders and executives. Reasonable Deep-Dives provide an in-depth perspective on a key aspect of product management. Follow me on your favorite streaming platform
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Welcome to the Reasonable Product Podcast! I’m your host, Salva, and today we’re diving into the intricate world of monetizing commodity digital products. I'm thrilled to have Neeraj Singh, the CEO of Neeto and Bigbinary, joining us to discuss this complex and somehow misunderstood topic.
In our discussion, Neeraj and I explored the challenges and strategies behind pricing in the highly competitive digital product space. Neeraj shared fascinating insights from his journey with Neeto, a company that builds a suite of essential software tools for small to medium-sized businesses.
No mystery: scheduling and form solutions are nothing new, actually they're a commodity. And Neeraj has made his whole pricing strategy around leveraging this competitive space by designing tools to offer just the right features at a price point that's remarkably lower than the market giants.
We also delved into the reasons why customers are switching from established leaders to Neeto, not just for cost savings, but because Neeto often makes complex features more accessible and easier to understand. Neeraj emphasized that their commitment to providing exceptional customer support and continuous product improvement is central to their success.
Throughout our conversation, we touched on the broader industry trends and the philosophy behind Neeto’s approach to pricing. We discussed how Neeraj plans to keep their products affordable without sacrificing quality, and why he believes in charging only when customers derive real value from their services.
This episode is packed with valuable insights for anyone interested in product pricing, particularly in the digital and SaaS industries. Tune in to hear more about Neeraj’s innovative strategies and how Neeto is navigating the competitive landscape of commodity digital products.
You can find the whole Neeto Suit at https://www.neeto.com/
If you'd like to keep in touch with Neeraj, here you go:
- Linkedin https://www.linkedin.com/in/neerajsingh0101/
- X/Twitter https://twitter.com/neerajsingh0101

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In this episode, we welcome Jonathan Landau, CEO of Movu, to share his transition journey from CPO to CEO. It's a deep dive into the challenges and opportunities that come with moving from a product-centric role to the helm of a company.
Movu is the leading Swiss Marketplace for moving services.

Jonathan guides us through the complexities of pricing in a marketplace that demands satisfaction from both buyers and sellers. He sheds light on the importance of understanding not just the lowest price, but the value each party is looking for. The conversation then pivots to customer retention, emphasizing how vital it is to listen to feedback and how it can significantly impact your business's success or failure.

But that's not all. Jonathan offers invaluable insights on effective communication with your team and customers, the lessons in leadership learned from managing products, and the critical role of OKRs (Objectives and Key Results) in steering a company toward its strategic goals.

This episode is a must-listen for anyone aspiring to evolve professionally from a product or leadership position into a CEO or general management role. Don't miss out on these lessons from the front lines of business leadership.

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In this episode, I had the chance to discuss with Alexandra Vera about being a Product Manager in different countries and cultures.
Alexandra Vera is Head of Product at Carfax, and was previously VP of Product at Autotrader Canada. She has been living and working in Product functions in 4 different countries and 3 different continents. Also, she's been working in product and with remote and international teams for the past 20 years. As such, she has first-hand experience with what it takes to work through different cultures, and what are the common traits of great product managers.
Alexandra believes that there are still a lot of opportunities for product managers, even in the current job market. There will be plenty of opportunities for those who are adaptable.
We covered in detail a number of topics, including

  • The current tech and product job market, and what is changing for product people
  • Why some tech companies overinvested during COVID, and what will stay after the pandemic-driven digital boom
  • How AI will make Product managers' life easier...
  • Why soft skills are the number 1 trait of great product managers, and why it is going to be even more the case in the future
  • How "non traditionally tech" companies will over time become larger product manager employers
  • The differences (and commonalities) between product management practices in Barcelona and Canada,
  • And how the future of work will involve product managers and product leaders being more skilled at managing teams through different cultures
  • Some practical tips to be successful in a product management interview

You can contact Alexandra through Linkedin, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexaveragurdiel/

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Reasonable Product - Unleashing NO-Code superpowers for Product Managers.
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09/15/23 • 59 min

In this episode of Reasonable Product, Salva has invited Marcel Schneider (Product Manager at Huggy Studio) to deep dive into the world of No-Code development and its pivotal role in product management. They explore how No-Code empowers product managers to rapidly bring their ideas to life, focusing on high-priority tasks while reducing the time and effort spent on development.

Marcel provides a foundational understanding of what No-Code truly is, and concrete examples of the most powerful no-code tools out there. Most importantly, he also provides practical examples of when No-code is NOT the way to go.
Marcel and Salva discuss various scenarios where No-Code proves to be a game-changer for Product Managers, emphasizing its effectiveness in the early stages of product development. They underline the importance of testing ideas, even before considering development, to validate their viability in the market.
He highlights No-Code as a powerful tool, emphasizing that it's not just for non-technical individuals but can also benefit seasoned developers looking to streamline their processes.

One of the key takeaways is the necessity for product managers to prioritize their core responsibilities, avoiding the temptation of becoming deep into No-Code development. Marcel advises that while No-Code is a valuable resource, it should be used as a superpower to enhance productivity rather than a rabbit hole that consumes precious time.

The conversation also touches upon the future of No-Code, with Marcel expressing his belief that the integration of No-Code and AI will open up new possibilities. He envisions No-Code as a gateway for non-technical individuals to access AI technologies, thereby accelerating innovation across various domains.

Marcel's practical insights and real-world examples, such as the success story of a specialist using No-Code to scale content creation for SEO, serve as valuable illustrations of how No-Code can be harnessed effectively.
Listen to the full episode to:
🚀 Dive into No-Code development's potential.
🔑 Learn how to prioritize core tasks while No-Code handles the technical heavy lifting.
🧪 Understand which no-code tool is helpful for what
🦸‍♂️ Learn to use No-Code as a superpower, not a time sink.
🔮 Explore the future: No-Code and AI integration for innovation acceleration.
You can contact Marcel
- through Linkedin, at https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-schneider-149209222/
- through Huggy Studio at https://www.huggystudio.com/

Here are some of the resources we mentioned in the Podcast:
- No-Code tools for early product validation: https://salvabocchetti.com/no-code-tools-for-early-product-validation/
- HuggyStudio guide to No-Code Tools https://www.huggystudio.com/blog-article/the-best-no-code-platforms-and-tools

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Ever thought of leveling up your product management game? In this conversation, Salva hosts Büşra, an experienced product manager, and product leadership coach, as they explore the multifaceted world of product management and leadership. Together, they unravel the challenges faced by aspiring and mid-to-senior level product managers and discuss strategies to thrive in this dynamic field.
The conversation begins by acknowledging the prevalence of job transitions among individuals seeking coaching. They address the crucial question of whether people seek coaching primarily to advance their careers or to excel in their current roles, ultimately highlighting the diversity of needs in the product management community.
As we debunk the myth that product managers are the sole decision-makers, Bushra emphasizes the importance of having the right mindset, properly testing ideas, and prioritizing communication skills, curiosity, and continuous learning.

Büşra shares her insights into coaching different segments of product managers, from aspiring beginners to seasoned professionals. She reveals the distinct challenges each group faces, whether it's acquiring specific skills, tackling strategic thinking, or navigating their career paths.

She shares indispensable insights from her workshops and courses, aiming to arm product managers with the essential tools and knowledge to thrive in their roles. We also delve into career progression and the potential of transitioning into higher roles, given the right hooks. Rule of thumb? Showcase prior experiences that demonstrate a sound understanding of product management.
The conversation also delves into the critical issue of information overload in the age of social media. Büşra and Salva emphasize the importance of distinguishing valuable, hands-on knowledge from generic advice and cookie-cutter wisdom. They urge listeners to be discerning when it comes to the sources of information and encourage seeking real-world experiences shared by practitioners.

This episode offers a thought-provoking discussion for product managers and leaders at all career stages. It serves as a reminder that success in product management involves not only mastering frameworks but also critically assessing the quality of information in an ever-evolving field.

This is Part 1 of the talk with Büşra - Part 2 deals with the Tools needed to Taking your Product Management carrer to the Next Level
You can contact Büşra Coşkuner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/busra-coskuner/

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In this Reasonable Product Interview, I had the pleasure of having Cliff des Ligneris talk about 2 sided marketplace.

Cliff is Product Lead at GetYourGuide and has been running product at several marketplaces in the past including at Doodle, Car4You, and now at Get your Guide.

We spoke about two-sided Marketplaces and why they are hard to build, (the “cold start problem) - but also why they’re a great business once you’re in.

As Cliff said, there is not really you can do to make it easier, besides the fact that “sometimes you have to cheat. You have to find the chat code to create one so that the other side. Because you can’t do both at the same time, it’s just impossible”. Cliff also shared some concrete tips and experience doing this kind of “cheating” to bootstrap a marketplace against an established incumbent.

We went on discussing how to create the right team setup for a marketplace business, and why this will have to change over time anyway.

Finally, we spoke about being a PM in Europe vs in the US. In Europe, there are just fewer people to look at in terms of best practices, which requires PMs and aspiring PMs to be even more proactive in grabbing the skills and way of thinking that you need to be a great PM.

Cliff shared with us what he gives as “PM tools” to his new hires, and what he expects from them to get “up to speed”.

The most important piece of advice from Cliff to become a PM? “think twice before you you actually decide you want to be a PM, it’s hard!

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This is the second episode of a special Podcast with Büşra, dedicated to leveling up Product Manager's skills.
Ready to unlock the potential of your product management? Tune in for a profound conversation with our guest, Büşra, who will guide us through the best frameworks that can empower product managers to make a real impact. We'll focus on the power of North Star Metrics and Impact Mapping, two essential tools used by product teams to measure impact and translate value into revenue.
Little bonus... Büşra and Salva make sure that this, as usual, a pragmatic and "100% no BS talk"!
Our journey with Büşra takes us deeper into

  • North Star Metrics, a key concept that needs careful definition and testing.
  • We'll discuss why it's vital for a North Star Metric to be specific and measurable and shed light on its effectiveness.
  • As we pivot towards Impact Mapping, prepare to get a grasp of this visual toolkit that aligns teams and charts a roadmap to business goals.

We'll also delve into the skill set every product manager needs to succeed. From understanding data and market insights to identifying user needs and taking the initiative in collaboration, we'll explore how these skills underpin successful strategies.
And remember - taking risks and putting theory into practice is key.
You can contact Büşra Coşkuner on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/busra-coskuner/

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In this episode, we talk with Marie Martens, co-founder of Tally.so, a new and successful form-builder tool. Tally.so has made a big splash, hitting $1.2 million in yearly revenue, attracting 250,000 users, and converting 4,000 of them into paying customers in just three years—all in a very crowded market and without taking any outside investment.
The secret sauce? A smart pricing strategy that sets their credo and helps them make very difficult decisions easily. Sometimes against the grain of traditional beliefs.
Marie shares how keeping things simple and focusing on delivering great value to free users has been key to their success.
Here's what we cover:

  • Choosing to bootstrap gave Tally.so the freedom to shape their pricing the way they wanted.
  • Why avoiding maximizing revenues at all costs actually... maximizes revenue (and margins).
  • The importance of a straightforward, easy-to-understand pricing strategy.
  • How to balance in your pricing model what makes sense for business vs the experience it gives to the user
  • Why offering a lot for free can set you apart from the competition.
  • The pros and cons of lifetime deals and discounts, and why they often don’t work out well.
  • Effective ways to gather and use feedback from users to improve your product without needing a bigger team.

- Tally is the simplest way to create forms, for free. https://tally.so
If you want to know more about Marie and Tally:
- Blog: blog.tally.so
- Twitter Tally: @Tallyforms
- Twitter Marie: @MarieMartens

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Reasonable Product - Deep Dive: Are you measuring right?
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02/15/23 • 19 min

Whether setting up OKR, monitoring your “product health” or just running experiments, there are countless reasons why, as a product professional, you should measure what you do and set goals.

In this Podcast, we go through the 4 most dangerous mistakes product managers and other business leaders do while creating measures and KPIs:

  1. Relying on “relative changes” measures instead of absolute values
  2. Having too complex measures
  3. Creating “Frankenstein or fake metrics”
  4. Forgetting to set up ownership and rituals

We discuss how these errors can have a cascading effect on the decision-making process, and what are some simple ways to set up sound and consistent metrics.

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Reasonable Product - Deep Dive: Product Debt is the real enemy
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02/09/23 • 17 min

I see more and more people talking about “Technical Debt”. While this is nothing new, it is indeed interesting to see Tech Debt becoming a subject even outside of the “usual circles” of techies. In this Podcast we will go through the concept of Tech Debt in a way that is understandable to Business and Product Leaders. More importantly, we will discuss why Product Debt is the real enemy and what you can do to avoid it.

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How many episodes does Reasonable Product have?

Reasonable Product currently has 18 episodes available.

What topics does Reasonable Product cover?

The podcast is about Product Management, Product, Management, Leadership, Startup, Podcasts and Business.

What is the most popular episode on Reasonable Product?

The episode title 'Pricing as a feature: Monetizing commodity SaaS products - with Neeraj Singh, CEO @ Neeto' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Reasonable Product?

The average episode length on Reasonable Product is 38 minutes.

How often are episodes of Reasonable Product released?

Episodes of Reasonable Product are typically released every 12 days, 23 hours.

When was the first episode of Reasonable Product?

The first episode of Reasonable Product was released on Feb 9, 2023.

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