
Real Talk: Exploring Who We Are, What We Do, and How We Came Together
02/28/24 • 17 min
In this week's episode of 'Real Talk,' Susan and Kristina uncover the secret to their successful partnership. Join them for a hilarious exploration of their working relationship, their practice,and the valuable lessons learned during their nearly decade-long collaboration. So grab a cup of coffee and join them for a candid conversation about what makes their professional bond so special.
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE SHOW:- https://studentdefense.kjk.com/
- https://www.amazon.com/Yes-Your-Kid-Parents-Todays/dp/1637743807
- https://www.instagram.com/stonesupler/
Susan Stone:
Welcome back to Real Talk with Susan Stone and Kristina Supler. We are full time moms and attorneys bringing our student defense legal practice to life with real candid conversations.
Kristina Supler:
Susan ever since the Super Bowl.
Susan Stone:
Oh no, oh no. Don't say it.
Kristina Supler:
I have a secret guilty pleasure. I confess to you and our listeners out there like,
Susan Stone:
Oh my God here, it's coming.
Kristina Supler:
But I am totally, completely obsessed with the dunking Dunkin Donuts commercials, the Ben Affleck Matt Damon commercials. Did you see those during the Super Bowl?
Susan Stone:
Okay. Not only did I see them, but I saw us in Ben and Matt.
Kristina Supler:
That's what I thought.
Susan Stone:
I know.
Kristina Supler:
What is about those two. I was so drawn to it. I can't stop watching when they're there walking in. We got touchdown, Tommy. On the key.
Susan Stone:
You love that one.
Kristina Supler:
I love that one.
Susan Stone:
Touchdown Tommy on the keys. Okay, Because here's what it is. They've been together a long time working and kind of separating.Yeah. We're not childhood friends, but.
Kristina Supler:
No, we're not.
Susan Stone:
But it's been.
Kristina Supler:
It's been a minute.
Susan Stone:
It's been a second. Collaborating,
Kristina Supler:
Creativity
Susan Stone:
Creativity. And, you know, they drive each other crazy, which we do sometimes.
Kristina Supler:
We do. We do. But there's humor there. I can't even tell you how much it made me laugh when Matt Damon looks at Ben Affleck and he's like, how do you like them donuts?
Susan Stone:
Oh my God.
Kristina Supler:
I’m so sorry.
Susan Stone:
Okay. The line I loved is sometimes it's really hard to be your friend or remember, I would do anything for you. This is anything. And I know those moments because in our working relationship, in our friendship, we ask an absolute a lot from each other.
Kristina Supler:
Oh yeah. It's it's really it's been it's been quite a journey we've been on for the past.
I don't even know how long it's been.
Susan Stone:
for the listeners out there. And those of you who are in Greek organizations, I hard rushed Sue Blur to be my law partner. I remember saying, Join me in this practice. And you're like, Well, I still want my criminal defense and you still do.
Kristina Supler:
I still do. You do. I do.
Susan Stone:
But mostly we represent students out there and we do handle a lot of criminal defense and we deal do with that. We still deal with sex issues
Kristina Supler:
all day, every day.
Susan Stone:
It was a hard sell getting you in, but we made it and it's been actually almost ten years.
Kristina Supler:
So why are we talking about this today? Why what is the point of this episode of this topic?
Are our listeners are like what we're gone from done kings and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck to to the two of you are
Susan Stone:
Dunking’s or dukin?
Kristina Supler:
it's done Kings Kings because they're kings I swear folks she’s really smart
Susan Stone:
I just feel like what Dunkin Donuts like
Kristina Supler:
Yeah it is but in the commercial they were getting creative. Okay okay,.
Susan Stone:
Guys that's what life is like in the office and why I do
Kristina Supler:
And that by the way I knew when I met her I said, she's the one for me.
Susan Stone:
Absolutely. Guys, please stop. I'm menopausal I’ll pee in my pants. Okay, so how. Here's the thing, guys.
Kristina Supler:
For real.
Susan Stone:
For real.
Kristina Supler:
In all seriousness,
Susan Stone:
In all seriousness, we do handle your...
In this week's episode of 'Real Talk,' Susan and Kristina uncover the secret to their successful partnership. Join them for a hilarious exploration of their working relationship, their practice,and the valuable lessons learned during their nearly decade-long collaboration. So grab a cup of coffee and join them for a candid conversation about what makes their professional bond so special.
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE SHOW:- https://studentdefense.kjk.com/
- https://www.amazon.com/Yes-Your-Kid-Parents-Todays/dp/1637743807
- https://www.instagram.com/stonesupler/
Susan Stone:
Welcome back to Real Talk with Susan Stone and Kristina Supler. We are full time moms and attorneys bringing our student defense legal practice to life with real candid conversations.
Kristina Supler:
Susan ever since the Super Bowl.
Susan Stone:
Oh no, oh no. Don't say it.
Kristina Supler:
I have a secret guilty pleasure. I confess to you and our listeners out there like,
Susan Stone:
Oh my God here, it's coming.
Kristina Supler:
But I am totally, completely obsessed with the dunking Dunkin Donuts commercials, the Ben Affleck Matt Damon commercials. Did you see those during the Super Bowl?
Susan Stone:
Okay. Not only did I see them, but I saw us in Ben and Matt.
Kristina Supler:
That's what I thought.
Susan Stone:
I know.
Kristina Supler:
What is about those two. I was so drawn to it. I can't stop watching when they're there walking in. We got touchdown, Tommy. On the key.
Susan Stone:
You love that one.
Kristina Supler:
I love that one.
Susan Stone:
Touchdown Tommy on the keys. Okay, Because here's what it is. They've been together a long time working and kind of separating.Yeah. We're not childhood friends, but.
Kristina Supler:
No, we're not.
Susan Stone:
But it's been.
Kristina Supler:
It's been a minute.
Susan Stone:
It's been a second. Collaborating,
Kristina Supler:
Creativity
Susan Stone:
Creativity. And, you know, they drive each other crazy, which we do sometimes.
Kristina Supler:
We do. We do. But there's humor there. I can't even tell you how much it made me laugh when Matt Damon looks at Ben Affleck and he's like, how do you like them donuts?
Susan Stone:
Oh my God.
Kristina Supler:
I’m so sorry.
Susan Stone:
Okay. The line I loved is sometimes it's really hard to be your friend or remember, I would do anything for you. This is anything. And I know those moments because in our working relationship, in our friendship, we ask an absolute a lot from each other.
Kristina Supler:
Oh yeah. It's it's really it's been it's been quite a journey we've been on for the past.
I don't even know how long it's been.
Susan Stone:
for the listeners out there. And those of you who are in Greek organizations, I hard rushed Sue Blur to be my law partner. I remember saying, Join me in this practice. And you're like, Well, I still want my criminal defense and you still do.
Kristina Supler:
I still do. You do. I do.
Susan Stone:
But mostly we represent students out there and we do handle a lot of criminal defense and we deal do with that. We still deal with sex issues
Kristina Supler:
all day, every day.
Susan Stone:
It was a hard sell getting you in, but we made it and it's been actually almost ten years.
Kristina Supler:
So why are we talking about this today? Why what is the point of this episode of this topic?
Are our listeners are like what we're gone from done kings and Matt Damon and Ben Affleck to to the two of you are
Susan Stone:
Dunking’s or dukin?
Kristina Supler:
it's done Kings Kings because they're kings I swear folks she’s really smart
Susan Stone:
I just feel like what Dunkin Donuts like
Kristina Supler:
Yeah it is but in the commercial they were getting creative. Okay okay,.
Susan Stone:
Guys that's what life is like in the office and why I do
Kristina Supler:
And that by the way I knew when I met her I said, she's the one for me.
Susan Stone:
Absolutely. Guys, please stop. I'm menopausal I’ll pee in my pants. Okay, so how. Here's the thing, guys.
Kristina Supler:
For real.
Susan Stone:
For real.
Kristina Supler:
In all seriousness,
Susan Stone:
In all seriousness, we do handle your...
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Real Talk: How Can Parents Address Bullying?
In this week's episode of 'Real Talk,' Susan and Kristina dive deep into the topic of bullying. Discovering that your child is either being bullied or is the one doing the bullying can be incredibly challenging for parents. However, it's crucial to be informed. Join us in this episode to learn about the necessary steps you should take, the responsibilities schools have, and how you, as a parent, can ensure your child is protected. Tune in for valuable insights and practical advice.
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE SHOW:https://studentdefense.kjk.com/
https://www.instagram.com/stonesupler/
TRANSCRIPT:Susan Stone:
Welcome back to Real Talk with Susan Stone and Kristina Supler. We are full time moms and attorneys bringing our student defense legal practice to life with real candid conversations.
Susan Stone:
Well, good morning.
Kristina Supler:
Good morning, my friend.
Susan Stone:
Gosh, I don't know about you, but I'm exhausted. I’m just so tired. Every bone in my body feels tired.
Kristina Supler:
It's funny you say that, because this morning, for the first time in an unknown eternity, my alarm went off to go to the gym, and I chose not to get up. I went back to bed and then another hour and a half to sleep.
Susan Stone:
I've had a lot of those mornings and I'm wondering what's contributing to the exhaustion. Any ideas on your part? I just think it's we're really busy.
Kristina Supler:
We've had a busy January. We've had a lot of hearings. We have a lot of tough cases that I think we both really care about. And, you know, our work is it's not work that you can do if you don't care. You know, I mean, what do you think?
Susan Stone:
Yeah, You know, I try very hard and I know you do to to separate work from home because our family does. Yeah, but I take it home. I carry it in my heart. I carry every client in my heart. And it's hard.
Kristina Supler:
It's hard to turn off your brain at night and stop thinking about these really significant issues that, you know, we've spent hours all day sorting through. But then you go home and, you know, my children are younger, obviously, as you know, I'm in mom mode cooking dinner and helping with homework. And last night we were making cookies for a school presentation on Friday, and it was kind of like, my gosh, the last thing I want to do, but you have to do it.
Susan Stone:
You've got to do it. And I know that I worked last night after I made dinner and I just was losing patience for the client and it was more just fatigue on my part.
Kristina Supler:
Yeah.
Susan Stone:
So I need to recharge and so do you. What do you do to recharge?
Kristina Supler:
that's a good question, because it can be a couple of different things.
For me, sometimes it's just having a weekend that's unscheduled, you know, not having a million activities, but then also sleep and exercise and just sort of having some time for myself and not feeling like I'm running around all weekend, you know, taking care of other people. But I mean, what about you?
Susan Stone:
Yeah, I don't know. I, I don't know.
I keep thinking about it. It's a moving needle. But one of the things I do know is that we do let work move into our home space, and it keeps me up in the middle of the night. So I got to get better at that. And if any of you listeners are out there and have some ideas and yes, I already do practice yoga and healthy.
Kristina Supler:
mindfulness,
Susan Stone:
I've got that mindfulness.But you know what's been coming in a lot and I just thought we talk about it. We're getting a lot of calls about bullying again.
Kristina Supler:
We are. And we get those cases and those calls, I should say, all the time. I mean, every year. But I do feel like in January there's always a bit of an uptick in bullying, say, issues.
And it's really for students of all ages, wouldn't you agree?
Susan Stone:
Yeah. I wonder if you think it has anything to do with the crappy weather.
Kristina Supler:
I hadn't thought of that. maybe we're in Cleveland and it was like literally zero a couple of weeks ago, and no one's outside moving around. Everyone's cooped up in homes. That could be a thought.
Susan Stone:
Yeah, it could be. But so the questions that come in is, if your child's accused of being the bully, how can you help defend my child? If your kid is bullied, what can I do? How do I stop it? Do have a lawsuit? There's a lot of issues related that you would call an attorney for if your child's involved in bullying.
Kristina Supler:
Yeah, I mean, and I think that so often in these initial meetin...
Next Episode

Real Talk: Cuddle Caution - Student's Guide to Consent & Boundaries
Students sometimes enjoy cuddling, but innocent acts can sometimes lead to serious Title IX cases. These situations are more common than you might expect. Join Susan and Kristina in this episode of Real Talk as they discuss common pitfalls, focusing on important aspects like communication, conversation, and consent. Tune in for essential insights, and be sure to share this information with your students.
LINKS MENTIONED IN THE SHOW:https://studentdefense.kjk.com/
TRANSCRIPT:Susan Stone:
Welcome back to Real Talk with Susan Stone and Kristina Supler. We are full time moms and attorneys bringing our student defense legal practice to life with real candid conversations.
Susan Stone:
Nice to see you on this dreary, rainy day.
Kristina Supler:
Indeed, it is.
Susan Stone:
It is. Well, we're going to talk about something that's actually good to do on a rainy day.
Kristina Supler:
Ooh, tell me more. What could that be?
Susan Stone:
Cuddling.
Kristina Supler:
Who doesn't love cuddling?
Susan Stone:
My gosh. You know what? I'm mourning the fact that my youngest is about to go to college.
And we talked about this on prior podcasts, but do you remember we used to have younger kids. But back in the day.
Kristina Supler:
My kids love to CUDDLE Yeah,
Susan Stone:
There's nothing like that. Cuddling up a little kid, especially on a rainy morning.
Susan Stone:
Couldn't agree more.
Susan Stone:
I love it.
Kristina Supler:
Well, why are you talking about cuddling today, Susan? Do I go with this?
Susan Stone:
Well, we're going to get there because, as you know, nobody sees us and things until something goes wrong. And what is that saying? Everything's fine till somebody gets poked in the eye. Do you remember that thing?
Kristina Supler:
Yes.
Susan Stone:
Well, we're going to talk about cuddling going wrong. But first, let's just talk about why do we cuddle? I mean, I was doing a little research on cuddling and did you know that cuddling produces oxytocin and basically makes you feel good and safe?
Kristina Supler:
Well, that's interesting because I suppose and you know, you're the special ed wiz, if you will, is it could one argue that cuddling is kind of like a form of O.T. in a way, occupational therapy or stimulating you in some way?
Susan Stone:
Well, we know it improves sleep. There are some studies out there that says it actually boosts the immune system and it, believe it or not, lowers blood pressure.
That's crazy, isn't it?
Kristina Supler:
Now that I didn't see that one coming, I'm just thinking about like some of our little kids and people with sensitivities to touch and touch can be a good thing. And also maybe something that can be triggering.
Susan Stone:
Yeah, exactly. Well, I would say that in early childhood, cuddling definitely leads to attachment parenting. You really form bonds.
Kristina Supler:
Well, that like when you first have your baby and they want to put the baby on your chest for the. What does that kangaroo care? What was it called?
Susan Stone:
I think it's kangaroo care. It's been a minute
Kristina Supler:
and they have had a baby.
Susan Stone:
Yeah, but I think your point is well taken that some children actually are averse to touch, you know, like that feeling. But most people do. And a little simple hug or cuddle is wonderful for parents. And I'm a big fan of parents being physically affectionate with children. But.
Kristina Supler:
but there's always a but
Susan Stone:
but we're not here to talk about parents snuggling their babies,
Kristina Supler:
I think as part of our podcast. It's funny, every episode there's sort of a theme of, in reality, things that are nice. Most of the time innocent sure and then put them on a college campus and the title nine world. And of course, there's always room for things to go wrong. So are we talking about cuddling in the context of Title Nine today?
Susan Stone:
We are. Because one person's innocent, platonic, asexual cuddling can be another person's prelude to a hookup.
Kristina Supler:
Indeed, indeed. And that actually makes me think we've had over the years we've had quite a few cases that are sort of rooted in, I don't know, cuddling going wrong, if you will, though I think it probably depends on who you ask. Right?
Susan Stone:
Well, I just learned that there is a definitional difference between cuddling and snuggling.
Kristina Supler:
Now this is totally new to me.Tell me more. I'm very interested.
Susan Stone:
Oka...
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