
Episode 67: Why Santa Claus IS Autistic, and making theatre more inclusive (With Oliver Hetherington-Page)
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11/29/23 • 87 min
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Happy early Christmas Psychocinemaniacs! It's been a hell of a year, but one thing that brings us joy is the work of disabled creators blazing the trail in inclusivity, such as our guest Oliver Hetherington-Page. Oliver joins us to talk about how he's working to make theatre more inclusive and what that looks like, what he wants to see in autistic depictions on screen & stage, and why musicals are inherently autistic. He tells us all about his show the No Bang Theory and his upcoming show Santa Claus is Autistic, which is Christmas themed but also relevant all year round.
To purchase tickets to Santa Claus is Autistic at the PiP theatre, in Milton, QLD (Meanjin) on the 7th, 15th and 23rd of December, click here!
CONTENT WARNING: some discussion of ableism
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Follow Oliver on Instagram @atwistofoliverhp
And his show The No Bang Theory @thenobangtheory
Follow Oliver on Twitter @atwistofoliver
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NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
Happy early Christmas Psychocinemaniacs! It's been a hell of a year, but one thing that brings us joy is the work of disabled creators blazing the trail in inclusivity, such as our guest Oliver Hetherington-Page. Oliver joins us to talk about how he's working to make theatre more inclusive and what that looks like, what he wants to see in autistic depictions on screen & stage, and why musicals are inherently autistic. He tells us all about his show the No Bang Theory and his upcoming show Santa Claus is Autistic, which is Christmas themed but also relevant all year round.
To purchase tickets to Santa Claus is Autistic at the PiP theatre, in Milton, QLD (Meanjin) on the 7th, 15th and 23rd of December, click here!
CONTENT WARNING: some discussion of ableism
FOLLOW OLIVER ON ALL THE THINGS:
Follow Oliver on Instagram @atwistofoliverhp
And his show The No Bang Theory @thenobangtheory
Follow Oliver on Twitter @atwistofoliver
FOLLOW US:
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram, Twitter and Tiktok! or join our Facebook Group! Email us at [email protected]. Join our PATREON to support us and get cute benefits and bonus content! And check out our WEBSITE!
ALL PATREON FEES will be matched and sent to AUSRELIEF for their humanitarian relief in Gaza, until the end of the year. Sign up NOW or Donate Directly at our fundraiser link.
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
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Episode 66: Disabled single mums being badass advocates! Also, Erin Brockovich (with Sarah Langston)
TRANSCRIPT HERE Today we sit down with Sarah Langston, disabled single mum, artist, and disability advocate, and learn a bucketload about the barriers facing neurodivergent parents, particularly mothers, and how Sarah supports those parents. Sarah dives deep into the child protection system and how often disability is equated with parenting risk, leading to reporting rather than supporting neurodivergent parents. And then we relate this somehow to the 2000 legal drama Erin Brockovich? WELL YES, as you'll soon discover! CONTENT WARNING: child protection, child abuse (including sexual abuse), and child removal, statistics around death, ableism. FOLLOW SARAH ON ALL THE THINGS:
- TO JOIN ANPA (Australian Neurodivergent Parents Association) email Sarah with your name and contact number to [email protected]
- Check out Sarah's website for her advocacy, art and writing here
- Follow Sarah on instagram @srita_studio
- Follow Sarah on LinkedIn here
- See Sarah's art at Saatchi Art here
- sarah langston
- Disability Advocacy Network Australia
- Parents with disability and their experiences of child protection systems
- Autistic women submission to UN Special Rapporteur on Violence against Women | Autism Aspergers Advocacy Australia
- A fair and accessible criminal justice system for autistic people. Submission to the Parliamentary Inquiry into Victoria’s Criminal Justice System.
- Convention on the Rights of Persons with Disabilities (CRPD) | Division for Inclusive Social Development (DISD)
- Erin Brockovich - Wikipedia
- Miranda Fricker On testimony and the power of words
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Episode 68: Two Backbrace Girls, and Romy & Michele’s Highschool Reunion (with Lauren Edwards)
Join us for the last episode of the year with the vivacious comedian and musical theatre actor Lauren Edwards. Lauren and Steph bond over their shared experience with adolescent idiopathic scoliosis and being backbrace girls in highschool. We go through the limited selection of scoliosis-based media until we get to the beloved comedy film Romy and Michele's Highschool Reunion (1997). Find out what makes the film so iconic and whether its brief but infamous depiction of scoliosis was helpful or harmful!
Also if anyone needs to make a call, I've got a phone.
CONTENT DISCUSSED:
Deenie by Judie Blume (1973), Looking for Mr Goodbar (1977), The Hunchback of Notre Dame (1996), The House Bunny (2008), Kiss Me (2014).
CONTENT WARNING: some discussion of ableism and bullying, discussion of Looking for Mr Goodbar which is full of sexual assault, homophobia and sex shaming, sorry!
FOLLOW LAUREN ON ALL THE THINGS:
Follow Lauren on Instagram @livelaughlauren__
On TikTok: @livelaughlauren__
And on Twitter @laurenvedwards
FOLLOW US:
Follow Psychocinematic on Instagram, Twitter and Tiktok! or join our Facebook Group! Email us at [email protected]. Join our PATREON to support us and get cute benefits and bonus content! And check out our WEBSITE!
ALL PATREON FEES will be matched and sent to AUSRELIEF for their humanitarian relief in Gaza, until the end of the year. Sign up NOW or Donate Directly at our fundraiser link.
REFERENCES:
- Curvy Girls Scoliosis
- Scoliosis Australia
- Setting Scoliosis Straight
- Cobb angle | Radiology Reference Article | Radiopaedia.org
- The Blonde Leading the Blonde: An Oral History of ‘Romy and Michele’s High School Reunion’ | Vogue
- Caught Through the Looking Glass: Sarah Polley on Grief, Girlhood, and Scoliosis ‹ Literary Hub
- Looking for Mr. Goodbar (film) - Wikipedia
- Deenie - Wikipedia
- https://www.gawker.com/culture/the-nerdy-curve
NOTE: This podcast is not designed to be therapeutic, prescriptive or constitute a formal diagnosis for any listener, nor the characters discussed. The host is not representative of all psychologists and opinions stated are her own personal opinion, based on her own learnings and training (and minimal lived experience). Host and co-hosts do not have the final say and can only comment based on their own perspectives, so please let us know if you dispute any of these opinions – we are keen for feedback!
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