
Nick Smallman: Finding Meaning In An Isolated World (Part Two)
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02/13/25 • 57 min
In a world where our phones dictate our every move, are we losing the ability to connect with real people?
My guest for this episode, Nick Smallman, founder and CEO of Working Voices, certainly thinks so. Having spent decades helping people communicate with confidence, his latest project, The Sustainable Human, is all about helping us foster real relationships and connections, in an age of digital distraction.
In this episode, we dive into:
•The dangers of phone addiction and how to reclaim your time.
•AI’s growing influence – from relationships to decision-making.
•The myth of perfection online and why striving for imperfection is key.
•Social media’s impact on mental health, masculinity, and self-worth.
•How to develop confidence, real-world communication skills, and deeper connections.
We also discuss why Finland (the world’s happiest country) teaches critical thinking to children, and how that approach could transform the UK.
On top of this, Nick shares practical steps to curate a better digital life, create meaningful conversations, and find fulfilment through service and self-improvement.
Male Minds Matter...
If you've been affected by any of the themes in this episode, please consider reaching out to the following resources:
Samaritans.
You can contact the Samaritans 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. You can call 116 123 or visit the website at www.samaritans.org for more information.
SANEline.
You can call SANEline on 0300 304 7000 from 4.30pm–10.30pm every day.
National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK.
You can call the National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK on 0800 689 5652 from 6pm to midnight every day.
Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM).
You can call CALM on 0800 58 58 58 from 5pm–midnight every day, or visit their website to use the webchat.
Shout.
You can text SHOUT to 85258. Shout offers a confidential 24/7 text service providing support if you are in crisis and need immediate help.
In a world where our phones dictate our every move, are we losing the ability to connect with real people?
My guest for this episode, Nick Smallman, founder and CEO of Working Voices, certainly thinks so. Having spent decades helping people communicate with confidence, his latest project, The Sustainable Human, is all about helping us foster real relationships and connections, in an age of digital distraction.
In this episode, we dive into:
•The dangers of phone addiction and how to reclaim your time.
•AI’s growing influence – from relationships to decision-making.
•The myth of perfection online and why striving for imperfection is key.
•Social media’s impact on mental health, masculinity, and self-worth.
•How to develop confidence, real-world communication skills, and deeper connections.
We also discuss why Finland (the world’s happiest country) teaches critical thinking to children, and how that approach could transform the UK.
On top of this, Nick shares practical steps to curate a better digital life, create meaningful conversations, and find fulfilment through service and self-improvement.
Male Minds Matter...
If you've been affected by any of the themes in this episode, please consider reaching out to the following resources:
Samaritans.
You can contact the Samaritans 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. You can call 116 123 or visit the website at www.samaritans.org for more information.
SANEline.
You can call SANEline on 0300 304 7000 from 4.30pm–10.30pm every day.
National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK.
You can call the National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK on 0800 689 5652 from 6pm to midnight every day.
Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM).
You can call CALM on 0800 58 58 58 from 5pm–midnight every day, or visit their website to use the webchat.
Shout.
You can text SHOUT to 85258. Shout offers a confidential 24/7 text service providing support if you are in crisis and need immediate help.
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Nick Smallman: Finding Meaning In An Isolated World (Part One)
In a world where our phones dictate our every move, are we losing the ability to connect with real people?
My guest for this episode, Nick Smallman, founder and CEO of Working Voices, certainly thinks so. Having spent decades helping people communicate with confidence, his latest project, The Sustainable Human, is all about helping us foster real relationships and connections, in an age of digital distraction.
In this episode, we dive into:
•The dangers of phone addiction and how to reclaim your time.
•AI’s growing influence – from relationships to decision-making.
•The myth of perfection online and why striving for imperfection is key.
•Social media’s impact on mental health, masculinity, and self-worth.
•How to develop confidence, real-world communication skills, and deeper connections.
We also discuss why Finland (the world’s happiest country) teaches critical thinking to children, and how that approach could transform the UK.
On top of this, Nick shares practical steps to curate a better digital life, create meaningful conversations, and find fulfilment through service and self-improvement.
Male Minds Matter...
If you've been affected by any of the themes in this episode, please consider reaching out to the following resources:
Samaritans.
You can contact the Samaritans 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. You can call 116 123 or visit the website at www.samaritans.org for more information.
SANEline.
You can call SANEline on 0300 304 7000 from 4.30pm–10.30pm every day.
National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK.
You can call the National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK on 0800 689 5652 from 6pm to midnight every day.
Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM).
You can call CALM on 0800 58 58 58 from 5pm–midnight every day, or visit their website to use the webchat.
Shout.
You can text SHOUT to 85258. Shout offers a confidential 24/7 text service providing support if you are in crisis and need immediate help.
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Welcome to part one of a two-part special, featuring Dr. Cheddar Gorgeous, a man who combines artistry with activism, a multifaceted performer, advocate, and thought leader.
Over the next hour we’re going to explore the pitfalls of dating apps, discuss the current of social media and address the rise of toxic masculinity, the need for positive male role models, and how we need to redefine masculinity around kindness and service.
Join us for part one of this lovely chat, that encourages reflection on identity, purpose, and our collective responsibility to create a better world.
Male Minds Matter...
If you've been affected by any of the themes in this episode, please consider reaching out to the following resources:
Samaritans.
You can contact the Samaritans 24 hours a day, 365 days a year. You can call 116 123 or visit the website at www.samaritans.org for more information.
SANEline.
You can call SANEline on 0300 304 7000 from 4.30pm–10.30pm every day.
National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK.
You can call the National Suicide Prevention Helpline UK on 0800 689 5652 from 6pm to midnight every day.
Campaign Against Living Miserably (CALM).
You can call CALM on 0800 58 58 58 from 5pm–midnight every day, or visit their website to use the webchat.
Shout.
You can text SHOUT to 85258. Shout offers a confidential 24/7 text service providing support if you are in crisis and need immediate help.
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