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Kane County Nuggets - What To Do About Fatally Flawed Criminal Charges: Alan Downen Interview

What To Do About Fatally Flawed Criminal Charges: Alan Downen Interview

10/08/19 • 31 min

Kane County Nuggets

People v. Rowell, 229 Ill. 2nd 82 (May 2008). Episode 686 (Duration 31:58)

What's the best way to handle legally insufficient criminal charges? In this episode you get a feel for what it's like working in the criminal law.

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Illinois attorney Alan Downen walks us through the detailed intricacies of just one issue in criminal litigation:

In This Episode...

"There's an old saying about losing your 'tall'. 'Tall' is your favorite marble." -- Alan Downen.

Illinois Attorney Alan Downen

Alan Downen has been a member of the Illinois bar since 1974. He's a solo practitioner concentrating his practice in the areas of criminal, DUI, traffic law.

His office is in McLeansboro, Illinois.

"Can't Miss" Moments:

✓ Here's an example of the kind of fatally flawed or legally insufficient charging document we are talking about: A defendant charged with aggravated domestic battery is charged by information. However, the information is missing the mental state. It doesn't state if defendant acted "knowingly" or "intentionally". It also omits the type of battery the defendant is alleged to have done. It doesn't say if he caused bodily harm or committed insulting or provoking contact. (Go to 3:35)

✓ What's the law now? What does a court do when it's confronted with a legally insufficient complaint? Well it depends. There are two legal standards. If a motion to dismiss is filed pretrial the court will adopt a "strict construction" policy and automatically dismiss the charges without prejudice. That means the state is free to refile. If the motion to dismiss if filed on appeal or after the trial is over then a defendant must show prejudice to get the charges dismissed. (Go to 5:07)

✓ Some defense attorneys say they don't the prosecution a darn thing. There's nothing wrong with lying in the weeds and springing the issue on the state when the time is right. (Go to 6:40)

✓ Why some judges really hate a motion to dismiss, and why they'll accuse you of "sandbagging" and other dastardly legal things. (Go to 7:16) & (Go to 15:40)

"Like any attorney, if the judge asks you a question and you answer like this, 'Yea - I'm ready to go' when you know that there's a problem. That's kinda troublesome to me as an attorney...But that's kinda the scenario." (Go to 8:42)

✓ The problem with informing the state they have a bad charge. (Go to 9:20)

✓ Why it better to save your motion to dismiss until after the trial has started. Sure, you have to show prejudice but a few cases demonstrate that can be done. (Go to 9:51)

✓ The thing about the Rowell case is that it really highlights how a defense attorney can go about demonstrating the prejudice that results to an accused with a fatally flawed charging document is filed against them. This is the "bible" on insufficient charging instruments. (Go to 11:49)

✓ Talk about getting caught in court with your pants down. This might be every prosecutor's worst nightmare. (Go to 11:20)

✓ The number one lesson for prosecutors about this discussion is this. Some of them will do it. Many more won't and that's exactly why criminal defense can be so fun sometimes. (Go to 13:55)

✓ Why defense attorneys sometimes win by filing "the wrong" motion against all precedent and contrary to clearly applicable laws, and why judges are quick to grant you these "meritless" motions. (Go to 17:49)

"You have a d...

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People v. Rowell, 229 Ill. 2nd 82 (May 2008). Episode 686 (Duration 31:58)

What's the best way to handle legally insufficient criminal charges? In this episode you get a feel for what it's like working in the criminal law.

Subscribe: Apple Podcasts | Google Podcasts | Spotify | Android | RSS | Direct Download

APPLE PODCASTS GOOGLE PODCASTS

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DIRECT DOWNLOAD

Illinois attorney Alan Downen walks us through the detailed intricacies of just one issue in criminal litigation:

In This Episode...

"There's an old saying about losing your 'tall'. 'Tall' is your favorite marble." -- Alan Downen.

Illinois Attorney Alan Downen

Alan Downen has been a member of the Illinois bar since 1974. He's a solo practitioner concentrating his practice in the areas of criminal, DUI, traffic law.

His office is in McLeansboro, Illinois.

"Can't Miss" Moments:

✓ Here's an example of the kind of fatally flawed or legally insufficient charging document we are talking about: A defendant charged with aggravated domestic battery is charged by information. However, the information is missing the mental state. It doesn't state if defendant acted "knowingly" or "intentionally". It also omits the type of battery the defendant is alleged to have done. It doesn't say if he caused bodily harm or committed insulting or provoking contact. (Go to 3:35)

✓ What's the law now? What does a court do when it's confronted with a legally insufficient complaint? Well it depends. There are two legal standards. If a motion to dismiss is filed pretrial the court will adopt a "strict construction" policy and automatically dismiss the charges without prejudice. That means the state is free to refile. If the motion to dismiss if filed on appeal or after the trial is over then a defendant must show prejudice to get the charges dismissed. (Go to 5:07)

✓ Some defense attorneys say they don't the prosecution a darn thing. There's nothing wrong with lying in the weeds and springing the issue on the state when the time is right. (Go to 6:40)

✓ Why some judges really hate a motion to dismiss, and why they'll accuse you of "sandbagging" and other dastardly legal things. (Go to 7:16) & (Go to 15:40)

"Like any attorney, if the judge asks you a question and you answer like this, 'Yea - I'm ready to go' when you know that there's a problem. That's kinda troublesome to me as an attorney...But that's kinda the scenario." (Go to 8:42)

✓ The problem with informing the state they have a bad charge. (Go to 9:20)

✓ Why it better to save your motion to dismiss until after the trial has started. Sure, you have to show prejudice but a few cases demonstrate that can be done. (Go to 9:51)

✓ The thing about the Rowell case is that it really highlights how a defense attorney can go about demonstrating the prejudice that results to an accused with a fatally flawed charging document is filed against them. This is the "bible" on insufficient charging instruments. (Go to 11:49)

✓ Talk about getting caught in court with your pants down. This might be every prosecutor's worst nightmare. (Go to 11:20)

✓ The number one lesson for prosecutors about this discussion is this. Some of them will do it. Many more won't and that's exactly why criminal defense can be so fun sometimes. (Go to 13:55)

✓ Why defense attorneys sometimes win by filing "the wrong" motion against all precedent and contrary to clearly applicable laws, and why judges are quick to grant you these "meritless" motions. (Go to 17:49)

"You have a d...

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Illinois v. Caballes: The Police Drug Dog Sniffer Case

Illinois v. Caballes, 543 U.S. 405 (2005). SCOTIS Notice (Duration 1:43)

This is the SCOTUS case that set the framework for the use of drug dogs in the United States.

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This opinion normalized the use of drug dogs by police departments during traffic stops. The case concluded that police don't need a warrant when they walk a drug dog around a car during a traffic stop.

Issue Do police need a warrant to use a drug dog to sniff a car during a traffic stop? Facts Driver was stopped and ticketed for speeding. During the traffic stop, a canine unit appeared and a dog handler walked the dog around the car. The police dog alerted on the trunk. Police searched the trunk. Driver was arrested for trafficking cannabis. Everything happened in under 10 minutes. He was sentenced to 12 years. Analysis A privacy interest (that society recognizes as reasonable) cannot exist from aromas that come from completely illegal contraband. There is no right to privacy that protects illegal smells. Holding Conviction was affirmed because there was no 4th amendment violation. Related Cases

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Key Facts In Illinois v. Caballes

Key facts in the case include ...

  • Defendant’s car stopped
  • He’s ticketed for speeding
  • During stop canine unit appeared
  • Sniff dog handler walks the dog around car
  • Drug dog alerts on the trunk
  • Car searched
  • Cannabis discovered
  • Convicted for trafficking cannabis
  • Everything happened in under 10 minutes

The case began as a traffic stop for speeding. The car was stopped and driver ticketed for speeding. During the traffic stop, a canine unit appeared and a dog handler walked the dog around the car. The police dog alerted on the trunk. Police searched the trunk. Driver was arrested for trafficking cannabis.

Everything happened in under 10 minutes.

Key Finding

Key findings from the court:

  • Police Dog Drug Sniffs are Not Searches
  • Practical Limits Remain
  • Not That Many K-9 Units
  • Police Can Not Cause an Undue Delay

The case worked its way up to the United States Supreme Court, where the Court’s central finding was that:

“That any interest in possessing contraband cannot be deemed legitimate, ‘and thus, governmental conduct that only reveals the possession of contraband’ compromises no legitimate privacy interest.” Quoting United States v. Place, 462 U. S. 696 (1983).

You don’t have a privacy interest in illegal smells.

The Aftermath of Illinois v. Caballes

This case threatened to blow this issue wide open in favor of the police and the use of drug dogs. The central finding that a police dog sniff was not a search meant the use of drug dogs could perhaps be expanded to other areas besides a traffic stop.

The gist of the ruling is that a privacy interest (that society recognizes as reasonable) cannot exist from aromas that come from completely illegal contraband.

“A dog sniff conducted during a concededly lawful traffic stop that reveals no information other than the location of a substance that no individual has any right to possess does not violate the Fourth Amendment.” Caballes , 543 U.S. 405 (2005).

So if a sniff is not a search police can probably do more of them without running afoul of the 4th amendment.

There Are Still Limitations

Yet, even Caballes recognized limits on the use of police dogs during a traffic stop. Beginning with Caballes itself, we can see that fundamental limits on the use of sniffer dogs during traffic stops were built right into the system.

The Court approvingly noted that the police officers detaining Caballes did not delay the traffic stop just so that the drug dog could finish the sniffing.

This is important.

Had the Court found undue delay, the clear inference is that the case would have come out differently. This is what the court is talking about when it mentions a “prolonged” traffic stop.

The Court wrote that:

“A seizure that is justified solely by the interest in issuing a warning ticket to the driver can become unl...

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