
The *Real* Secret to Getting Through the Tough Times in Your Business
12/17/24 • 38 min
The internet would sometimes lead us to believe that it’s all sunshine and roses once you start making 6-figures in your business.
This is the “unpopular” conversation about facing and walking through the tough times and how those challenges can show up at any phase of business. Your vision is allowed to change and you can change your offers, business model, pricing - all of it!
With my guest, Michelle Vroom, we unpack:
- Her story of losing 3 clients in one day while 8 months pregnant, and what she did about it
- How to trust yourself as a business owner
- The cycles and seasons of business, and how sometimes you need to prune in order to grow
- The importance of creating a consistent lead generation system to make sure you always know where your next client is coming from
>>MEET MICHELLE<<
Michelle Vroom is a business coach who specializes in helping women become sought out and sign consistent clients. Michelle has nearly 20 years of experience in marketing and as a mom of three boys, understands the need for simple marketing strategies that get you big results. Her mission is to put every woman in control of making money so they can become the provider for their families.
>>CONNECT WITH MICHELLE<<
Join Michelle’s FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marketlikeabossgroup
https://www.instagram.com/marketlikeabossmv/
>>LET’S CONNECT<<
>>RESOURCES YOU’LL LOVE<<
Ready to get visible without relying on social media? Get your custom plan and apply for the Brand Visibility Accelerator!
Kickstart your visibility plan without social media! Grab our Ultimate Roadmap to Visibility Off Social bingeable audio course.
Want to save time creating content? Snag The Simplified Content System for only $47!
Time to elevate your brand? Book a coffee chat to explore working with Kelly
>>THANKS FOR LISTENING!<<
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The internet would sometimes lead us to believe that it’s all sunshine and roses once you start making 6-figures in your business.
This is the “unpopular” conversation about facing and walking through the tough times and how those challenges can show up at any phase of business. Your vision is allowed to change and you can change your offers, business model, pricing - all of it!
With my guest, Michelle Vroom, we unpack:
- Her story of losing 3 clients in one day while 8 months pregnant, and what she did about it
- How to trust yourself as a business owner
- The cycles and seasons of business, and how sometimes you need to prune in order to grow
- The importance of creating a consistent lead generation system to make sure you always know where your next client is coming from
>>MEET MICHELLE<<
Michelle Vroom is a business coach who specializes in helping women become sought out and sign consistent clients. Michelle has nearly 20 years of experience in marketing and as a mom of three boys, understands the need for simple marketing strategies that get you big results. Her mission is to put every woman in control of making money so they can become the provider for their families.
>>CONNECT WITH MICHELLE<<
Join Michelle’s FB group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/marketlikeabossgroup
https://www.instagram.com/marketlikeabossmv/
>>LET’S CONNECT<<
>>RESOURCES YOU’LL LOVE<<
Ready to get visible without relying on social media? Get your custom plan and apply for the Brand Visibility Accelerator!
Kickstart your visibility plan without social media! Grab our Ultimate Roadmap to Visibility Off Social bingeable audio course.
Want to save time creating content? Snag The Simplified Content System for only $47!
Time to elevate your brand? Book a coffee chat to explore working with Kelly
>>THANKS FOR LISTENING!<<
If you enjoyed this episode, please help us share it with others by:
- Following the show - If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, hit the follow button! This is one of the best ways to support our show!
- Leaving us a positive review - Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you.
- Screenshotting and sharing it with us on Instagram
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Entrepreneur School is proud to be featured on the Feedspot list of 30 Best Canada CEO Podcasts!
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>>CONNECT WITH KWADWO<<
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>>LET’S CONNECT<<
>>RESOURCES YOU’LL LOVE<<
Ready to get visible without relying on social media? Get your custom plan and apply for the Brand Visibility Accelerator!
Kickstart your visibility plan without social media! Grab our Ultimate Roadmap to Visibility Off Social bingeable audio course.
Want to save time creating content? Snag The Simplified Content System for only $47!
Time to elevate your brand? Book a coffee chat to explore working with Kelly
>>THANKS FOR LISTENING!<<
If you enjoyed this episode, please help us share it with others by:
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>>LET’S CONNECT<<
>>RESOURCES YOU’LL LOVE<<
Ready to get visible without relying on social media? Get your custom plan and apply for the Brand Visibility Accelerator!
Kickstart your visibility plan without social media! Grab our Ultimate Roadmap to Visibility Off Social bingeable audio course.
Want to save time creating content? Snag The Simplified Content System for only $47!
Time to elevate your brand? Book a coffee chat to explore working with Kelly
>>THANKS FOR LISTENING!<<
If you enjoyed this episode, please help us share it with others by:
- Following the show - If you would like to get automatic updates of new podcast episodes, hit the follow button! This is one of the best ways to support our show!
- Leaving us a positive review - Ratings and reviews from our listeners are extremely valuable to us and greatly appreciated. They help our podcast rank higher on Apple Podcasts, which exposes our show to more awesome listeners like you.
- Screenshotting and sharing it with us on Instagram
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Entrepreneur School is proud to be featured on the Feedspot list of 30 Best Canada CEO Podcasts and nominated for a Women in Podcasting Award!
Entrepreneur School - The *Real* Secret to Getting Through the Tough Times in Your Business
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For me, I just realized, like, where do I need to tighten things up? Like, where do I need to really step up as the CEO? And so it actually led to me creating a community of my own, of me creating leads of my own, and really marketing to those people and showing up in a different way.
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