
How to Choose Stability in a Rootless Age | EP 272: Daniel Grothe
11/17/21 • 63 min
My guest this week is Daniel Grothe, associate senior pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs. He is the author of Chasing Wisdom and The Power of Place: Choosing Stability in a Rootless Age.
He is a two-time Grammy-nominated musician. He and his wife Lisa live on a hobby farm with their three children. You may remember Daniel. He was on my podcast in 2020, episode 205, and he is one of my favorite interviews of all time. He’s hilarious, kind and wise.
4:40 – Farm updates- The resident elk herd is moving through right now. They just harvested their 20th cow and sent out another 2,000 pounds of beef.
- Life is full on Quiet Waters Ranch.
- We live in a divorce culture. It’s easy to be done and leave. We live in a place of impermanence, where everything is replaceable.
- Many people run from little annoyances and idiosyncrasies. But if we submit to where we are, God can make something of us.
- We live in a society of great cultural and social dislocation. We are living in an age of wanderlust.
- We have the deepest pockets of any society in history and maybe the loosest roots.
- National Geographic did a study called the blue zones, pockets of centenarians who lived over 100 years old. They ate a lot of fish, walked a lot, stayed in the same place most of their lives, had a place of worship and had long-term friendships.
- Place, worship and people matter to longevity.
- If you’re not in a threatening environment and are having just run of the mill problems, practice the power of place. People are the great purifiers.
- Make where you live wonderful, beautiful, life giving and rich.
- The art of place making – have you created a little nest, a little area where you can be human?
- Do your work, go get your money and come on home to your people where you’re safe.
- Life is complex and people are going to frustrate us at work, but come home and feel peace.
- There is a depth of riches to be found in friendship.
- Church can be a sacred canopy to provide joy, safety and protection.
- Submit to your local church
- What are you doing to make your community better?
- You have all that you need right where you are.
- Best concert he’s ever been to? Boyz II Men
- What actor should play him? Jim Carrey
The art of place making – have you created a little nest, a little area where you can be human?
If we submit to where we are, God can make something of us.
We live in a society of great cultural and social dislocation. We are living in an age of wanderlust.
There is a depth of riches to be found in friendship.
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My guest this week is Daniel Grothe, associate senior pastor at New Life Church in Colorado Springs. He is the author of Chasing Wisdom and The Power of Place: Choosing Stability in a Rootless Age.
He is a two-time Grammy-nominated musician. He and his wife Lisa live on a hobby farm with their three children. You may remember Daniel. He was on my podcast in 2020, episode 205, and he is one of my favorite interviews of all time. He’s hilarious, kind and wise.
4:40 – Farm updates- The resident elk herd is moving through right now. They just harvested their 20th cow and sent out another 2,000 pounds of beef.
- Life is full on Quiet Waters Ranch.
- We live in a divorce culture. It’s easy to be done and leave. We live in a place of impermanence, where everything is replaceable.
- Many people run from little annoyances and idiosyncrasies. But if we submit to where we are, God can make something of us.
- We live in a society of great cultural and social dislocation. We are living in an age of wanderlust.
- We have the deepest pockets of any society in history and maybe the loosest roots.
- National Geographic did a study called the blue zones, pockets of centenarians who lived over 100 years old. They ate a lot of fish, walked a lot, stayed in the same place most of their lives, had a place of worship and had long-term friendships.
- Place, worship and people matter to longevity.
- If you’re not in a threatening environment and are having just run of the mill problems, practice the power of place. People are the great purifiers.
- Make where you live wonderful, beautiful, life giving and rich.
- The art of place making – have you created a little nest, a little area where you can be human?
- Do your work, go get your money and come on home to your people where you’re safe.
- Life is complex and people are going to frustrate us at work, but come home and feel peace.
- There is a depth of riches to be found in friendship.
- Church can be a sacred canopy to provide joy, safety and protection.
- Submit to your local church
- What are you doing to make your community better?
- You have all that you need right where you are.
- Best concert he’s ever been to? Boyz II Men
- What actor should play him? Jim Carrey
The art of place making – have you created a little nest, a little area where you can be human?
If we submit to where we are, God can make something of us.
We live in a society of great cultural and social dislocation. We are living in an age of wanderlust.
There is a depth of riches to be found in friendship.
CONNECT:
THANK YOU TO OUR PARTNER OF THE SHOW:
MamaSuds helps label-reading moms create a safe and nontoxic home for their family by creating synthetic free household cleaners. And one of those cleaner is MamaSuds
Fine Linen Soap- which is the best thing since [Pumpkin] - Sliced -Bread
Wash your high-quality sheets, linens, delicates, and organic fabrics with a Fine Linen Soap to keep them looking newer and softer longer.
Use 3-4 capfuls for high-efficiency machines on delicate cycle, 4-6 capfuls for regular machines on delicate cycle.
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How to Build a Business with Passion | EP 271: Grant Trahant, Causeartist
My guest this week is Grant Trahant. He is the founder of Causeartist, a global community of conscious consumers, social entrepreneurs, business leaders, and the individuals who support them, who believe social enterprise can positively impact the world.
Causeartist’s founder, Grant Trahant, grew up in New Orleans, where he was introduced to social issues at an early age. He became fascinated by the idea that businesses could solve societal challenges — skipping over the need for political intervention.
He began seeking out social entrepreneurs to learn more about what they were doing and how he could be involved, and uncovered a bustling world of enterprises determined to make the world better through business.
Today, Causeartist has told the stories of hundreds of brands and business leaders to people in more than 200 countries. Grant operates Causeartist with a growing team of media experts, writers, and editors, all of whom are passionate about improving systems and lives through the power of social enterprise.
4:42 – Grant 101- He created Causeartist 8 years old to showcase ethical and sustainable alternatives.
- As the years go by, consumers want to understand more about what they buy.
- Bridget Hilton, founder of LSTN Headphones, is a good example of someone Grant has known from the beginning and watched her growth.
- You don’t have to be doing $5 million in revenue to make an impact and have a good business.
- There is so much technology to develop something that could scale really well with just you.
- The barrier to entry is to start your own thing. You can scale ecommerce very quickly.
- Don’t start too big with too many products. What do you want to see in the market that doesn’t exist?
- Don’t make it complicated. The best brands and companies Grant has seen have started with one product.
- Passion always helps, especially if you love what you do. The bad times come and go.
- Little wins mean the world and can help you keep going.
- Grant’s friend Trinity is one of the most inspirational people he knows. Trinity grew up in the slums of Uganda and was living on the streets. He was saved by a group and given a laptop. Technology changed his life.
- How do we create careers instead of just jobs?
- Most played playlist? Lo-fi music – no words and very chill acoustics
- Something we would never guess about him? He’s massively double jointed
One product can turn into an entire business.
As the years go by, consumers want to understand more about what they buy.
You don’t have to be doing $5 million in revenue to make an impact and have a good business.
Don’t make it complicated. The best brands and companies I’ve seen have started with one product.
CONNECT WITH GRANT: ABOUT GRANT TRAHANT:👋 Grant is the founder of Causeartist, one of the most influential impact business platforms in the world. Since 2013, Causeartist has been read in over 200 countries. Grant has personally interviewed over 650 impact entrepreneurs from around the world, highlighting innovations in ethical fashion, climate change, ethical technology, impact investing, and sustainable travel. (Also recently launched www.impactinvestor.io)
👋 Grant is also a professional Web Designer and Developer, specializing in building e-commerce solutions for startups, modernizing platforms and donation funnels for nonprofits and NGOs. Grant also consults with startups and businesses on how to create a media brand within their companies infrastructure to drive new customer acquisition and customer retention through content marketing and high quality SEO content.
👋 Grant is also a proud partner and advisor to Charity Charge. The Charity Charge Mastercard is the only credit card program created specifically for nonprofits and is now benefiting over 1,000 organizations across the country.
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Visionary Storytelling | EP 273: Heather Maio-Smith, StoryFile
My guest this week is Heather Maio-Smith, an award-winning interactive storytelling pioneer and technology visionary who brings more than a decade of storytelling leadership to her brand new company, StoryFile.
In 2010 Heather was creating an exhibit on intergenerational testimony with Holocaust survivors. She created a 3D prototype and formed a partnership to secure in-depth interviews interactively.
Heather had always intended that once the survivors were filmed, that anyone should be able to tell their story and save it for future generations. In 2017, StoryFile was created as an automatic, cloud-based platform that would bring the power of conversational video into everyone’s hands.
3:03 – Heather 101- She became an expert in intergenerational testimony and had great conversations with older people.
- She wanted everyone to be able to tell their story so future generations could actually talk to them and have a conversation.
- She didn’t know if her idea would work. They built a system that was completely automated and online.
- You record yourself answering a bunch of questions about your life. You can choose from 1,600 questions.
- There’s no reason nowadays that you can’t have in-depth conversations with people you love.
- Do a StoryFile for a future generation you’ll never meet.
- Some people think it’s a bit egotistic to do, but it’s not. It’s a gift to future generations.
- It’s one thing to write down your story or do an audio recording of yourself, but you miss the non-verbal communication.
- The video element allows you to see the essence of the person.
- Every generation has gone through really difficult things, but it’s what you learn from it and can pass along.
- Go to StoryFile.com and pick how many questions you want to do. You can pick individual questions or by topic and start recording.
- Best concert she ever attended? Madonna in a small venue
We wanted everyone to be able to tell their story this way so future generations could actually talk to them and have a conversation.
If my kids could have the ability to talk to my grandfather, that would be amazing. Because then they would understand me and maybe understand themselves a little more.
It’s one thing to write down your story or do an audio recording of yourself, but you miss the non-verbal communication.
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ABOUT HEATHER MAIO-SMITH:
Heather Maio-Smith is an award-winning interactive storytelling pioneer and technology visionary who brings over a decade of immersive storytelling leadership to StoryFile.
In 2010, Heather developed the first 3D interactive conversation with Holocaust Survivor Rose Schindler through her creative agency Conscience Display. At the time, she was creating physical video installations at the United Nations, USC, and in Havana, Cuba, but she understood that the future of storytelling lay at the intersection of digital media and ‘natural conversation’ and decided to create it.
Heather developed a strategic partnership with two global entities with competencies in visual media and technology - USC Shoah Foundation and the Institute for Creative Technologies. The partnership she led has resulted in the development of a new medium - natural conversation video.
Through Heather’s leadership, immersive interactive natural conversation video has gone from being a concept to a reality, combining hi-fidelity multi-scopic video with voice commands to deliver commercial grade natural conversation with an individual, whether it’s a life-sized video or on your mobile device, replicating the emotional experience of having a conversation with a person. She developed and pioneered Dimensions in Testimony, a program to interview Holocaust Survivors in volumetric interactive video without that survivor actually being present. Dimensions in Testimony won both the People’s Choice Award and the Jury Prize at Sheffield Doc Fest in 2016. She produced and led the project before moving on to found and lead StoryFile.
As a leader in content based technology, she has spoken about Natural Conversation at Microsoft (2017), US Holocaust Museum (2017), Dartmouth College (2018), FoST (2018), SXSW (2019), SXSW (2019), The LA Times Festival of Books (2019), M.I.T. (2020), and AI Summit (2020). Heather’s work has been featured in Fast Company, NBC’s The Today Show, The New Yorker, Reuters and BBC. She was also featured on 60 Minutes in 2020.
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