
443: How Emotional Health Fuels Spiritual Maturity. Zach Meerkreebs Explores Stewarding Crisis, Breaking the Scorecard of Comfort, and Honest Faith that Transforms Your Life
06/02/25 • 77 min
You’ve been taught that spiritual maturity looks like control. Stoicism. Discipline. Measured responses. But what if that’s not maturity at all—just emotional suppression dressed in a Bible verse? This week on Win Today, Zach Meerkreebs, known for his role in the Asbury Outpouring, joins me to dismantle the cultural scorecard we’ve built around spiritual growth. We’re talking about the false belief that spiritual people don’t struggle. That leaders don’t wrestle with anxiety. That if you're in pain, you're just not “surrendered” enough.
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- Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here!
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You’ve been taught that spiritual maturity looks like control. Stoicism. Discipline. Measured responses. But what if that’s not maturity at all—just emotional suppression dressed in a Bible verse? This week on Win Today, Zach Meerkreebs, known for his role in the Asbury Outpouring, joins me to dismantle the cultural scorecard we’ve built around spiritual growth. We’re talking about the false belief that spiritual people don’t struggle. That leaders don’t wrestle with anxiety. That if you're in pain, you're just not “surrendered” enough.
Episode Links
- Show Notes
- Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here!
- Invite me to speak at your church or event.
- Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
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442: How Bad Theology Fuels Mental Health Struggles. Kris Vallotton Unpacks Breaking Free from Spiritual Oppression
This week on Win Today, I’m joined by Kris Vallotton for a raw conversation about how well-meaning but bad theology is distorting our view of emotional health and creating systems of self-oppression inside the Church. From the stigma surrounding therapy and medication to the over-spiritualization of trauma, Kris pulls no punches. Together, we explore why real transformation can’t just be personal—it must be systemic. Because if the environment around you is sick, your health will always hit a ceiling. If you’ve ever been shamed for struggling, blamed for being anxious, or silenced when asking hard questions about healing, this conversation will set you free. It’s time to confront the beliefs that keep us stuck—and recover a theology that makes room for the whole person: body, soul, and spirit.
Episode Links
- Show Notes
- Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here!
- Invite me to speak at your church or event.
- Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
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444: Stop Trying to “Find Yourself.” Preston Morrison on the Misconceptions Keeping Us Immature, the Separation Caused by Pride, Navigating Midlife Transitions, and Embracing Wilderness Seasons
In a culture obsessed with self-discovery, the pursuit of "finding yourself" often leads to more confusion than clarity. Preston Morrison, Senior Pastor of Pillar Church and host of The Leader's Cut, challenges this narrative by exposing the misconceptions that keep us spiritually immature. He delves into how pride creates distance and separation, the pain inherent in midlife transitions, and the transformative power of embracing life's wilderness seasons.
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- Show Notes
- Buy my NEW BOOK "Healing What You Can't Erase" here!
- Invite me to speak at your church or event.
- Connect with me @WINTODAYChris on Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, and YouTube.
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