
Understanding school can’t and school trauma
11/14/23 • 62 min
Welcome to Episode 8 of the Yellow Ladybugs podcast series 4 "Supporting Autistic Girls and Gender Diverse Students at School and Beyond."
This podcast series is brought to you by the Victorian Department of Education and Training.
“Can’t. Not Won’t”. This important panel from our Supporting Autistic Girls and Gender Diverse students at school and Beyond Conference will explore the very hot topic of school “refusal,” and reframe this as school can’t. School can’t and school trauma are real issues for so many in our community and we explain why they cannot be solved with a tough love approach.
Katie Koullas chats with Louise Rogers and Tiffany Westphall both amazing advocates and creators of the school can't Facebook group and Nicole Bester an OT with both lived and professional experience.
Please note this episode does contain references to suicide ideality, depression and mental health issues.
Please see further resources attached to this podcast; 12. Understanding school can't and school trauma.docx
You can stay up to date with all things on our website yellowladybugs.com.au
Welcome to Episode 8 of the Yellow Ladybugs podcast series 4 "Supporting Autistic Girls and Gender Diverse Students at School and Beyond."
This podcast series is brought to you by the Victorian Department of Education and Training.
“Can’t. Not Won’t”. This important panel from our Supporting Autistic Girls and Gender Diverse students at school and Beyond Conference will explore the very hot topic of school “refusal,” and reframe this as school can’t. School can’t and school trauma are real issues for so many in our community and we explain why they cannot be solved with a tough love approach.
Katie Koullas chats with Louise Rogers and Tiffany Westphall both amazing advocates and creators of the school can't Facebook group and Nicole Bester an OT with both lived and professional experience.
Please note this episode does contain references to suicide ideality, depression and mental health issues.
Please see further resources attached to this podcast; 12. Understanding school can't and school trauma.docx
You can stay up to date with all things on our website yellowladybugs.com.au
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Neuro-affirming alternatives to behaviourism and compliance-based therapies
Welcome to Episode 7 of the Yellow Ladybugs podcast series 4 "Supporting Autistic Girls and Gender Diverse Students at School and Beyond."
This podcast series is brought to you by the Victorian Department of Education and Training.
Confused about therapy and ‘intervention’ and how to help the young ladybug in your life? This panel will utilise the clinical experience of two insightful autistic psychologists, who will unpack some of the immediate, short-term and life long impacts of commonly recommended behaviourist and compliance-based therapies, and then share their expertise on what neuro-affirming therapy and supports look like.
Katie Koullas and Natasha Staheli chat with Marie Camin and Sandhya Menon.
please note this content contains reference to ABA, mental health issues, child sexual and physical abuse, suicide ideality, and eating disorders
For further information on this podcast please see our resources attached 10. Neuro-affirming alternatives to behaviourism and compliance-based therapies.docx
You can stay up to date with all things on our website yellowladybugs.com.au
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Regulations, Ruptures and Repairs: How to Support our Ladybugs when Things Get Tough
Welcome to Episode 9 of the Yellow Ladybugs podcast series 4 "Supporting Autistic Girls and Gender Diverse Students at School and Beyond."
This podcast series is brought to you by the Victorian Department of Education and Training.
In this episode Katie Koullas CEO of Yellow Ladybugs speaks to renowned child psychiatrist Dr Alberto Veloso and explores Regulations, Ruptures and Repairs: How to Support our Ladybugs when Things Get Tough
Dr Alberto Veloso offersCompassionate advice and practical strategies to empower parents and teachers to co-regulate when relationships rupture and how and when to reflect and repair. A special look into complex mental health challenges, and how to cope when things get tough.
For further information on this episode please see our attached resource: 14. Regulation, Ruptures and Repairs.pdf
Content Warning: Please note this episode does contain references to hospital stays, mental health, family violence, self- harm, intrusive thoughts and threats to harm.
You can stay up to date with all things on our website yellowladybugs.com.au
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