Season 1 Ep. 28 - The Power of Art and Storytelling with Celestine Aleck

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07/08/24 • 45 min

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In this powerful episode, Mariel and Josh are joined by Celestine Aleck, a renowned author and storyteller, to explore her incredible personal and professional journey. Celestine, who has authored eight books, shares how a chance encounter with Holly Bright at a book launch led to their collaboration on a contemporary dance project that brings her stories to life.

Celestine delves into the challenges she faced while setting up the dance project, "Sun and Moon," amidst juggling two jobs and full-time schooling. Despite facing verbal and mental abuse at her job, she persevered with the support of Holly and secured the necessary grants for her project. The joy and happiness of the dancers reignited her passion for teaching and inspired her dream of working behind the desk.

The trio explores the significance of cultural practices in healing, with Celestine sharing her family's traditional medicine practices. They acknowledge the impact of residential schools on First Nations people and discuss the role of storytelling in preserving cultural heritage. Celestine offers insights into her culture's healing rituals, such as crying and bathing, and the broader process of healing through self-discovery and alignment with one's true worth.

Celestine shares a haunting vision shown to her by her grandfather, Ronald Alec, depicting the pain her family would suffer if she committed suicide. This profound experience shaped her life and storytelling journey, which began at the age of four. Mariel and Josh express their admiration for the wisdom and care demonstrated by Ronald Alec and recognize the significant influence this vision had on Celestine.

Throughout the episode, Celestine emphasizes the importance of self-love, seeking help, and practicing forgiveness as continuous processes. The discussion highlights the need for individualized self-care strategies and the potential negative impact of misaligned values on one's authentic self. Celestine's journey of overcoming depression and suicidal ideation serves as a powerful reminder of the resilience of the human spirit.

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Season 1 Ep. 27 - Redefining Mental Health Through Art and Science - with Michael Ravenwood

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In this episode, Mariel and Josh are joined by Michael Ravenwood, the visionary founder of Skyfire Arts, an innovative organization that merges art and science to promote ecological awareness and renewable energy. The episode opens with Mariel introducing Michael and diving into his fascinating work, including his captivating performances where he becomes electrified by a Tesla coil, throwing 10-foot bolts of lightning, all while conveying critical messages about climate change and mental health.

Michael passionately discusses how storytelling can create and transform reality, explaining the distinction between physical or objective reality and creative or subjective reality. He emphasizes that the stories we tell ourselves and the values we uphold shape our world, urging listeners to be mindful of the dominant narratives, especially those around economic growth and industrialism, and their environmental impacts.

The conversation shifts to the importance of curiosity in personal and societal growth. Mariel shares her background of growing up in a conservative household where curiosity was often discouraged, while Michael highlights the role of curiosity in understanding oneself and navigating professional environments. They discuss the neurological underpinnings of curiosity and its profound impact on emotional well-being.

Michael opens up about his childhood emotional and mental struggles, detailing how adaptive mechanisms like emotional detachment and marijuana use helped him cope. He recounts a transformative backpacking trip that marked a turning point in his life, leading to a deeper understanding of holistic mental health practices such as meditation, visualization, and exercise. Michael shares a profound experience on a bus ride to school that instilled a sense of oneness with the universe and redefined his concept of "God."

Further, Michael elaborates on how his college education, particularly courses in environmental science, ethics, and physics, reshaped his worldview. He underscores the interconnectedness of all things and criticizes the superficial proclamations of unity that lack actionable follow-through. This educational journey feuled his mission through Skyfire Arts to foster universal compassion and love.

Michael stresses the power of the mind in creating desired effects without external aids, advocating for the work of Dr. Joe Dispenza and the concept of ikigai—finding one's reason for being—as keys to mental health and well-being. He also shares his approach to monetizing art and encourages listeners to identify and pursue their passions.

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Season 1 Ep. 29 - Empowering Through Artistic Expression - with Shirley A. Tease

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Join Mariel, Josh, and their guest Shirley A. Tease in an inspiring episode that dives deep into the realms of personal and professional growth, authenticity, and emotional expression. Shirley, a single mother, business consultant, and burlesque performer, shares her remarkable journey of balancing work, family, and self-discovery. She emphasizes the importance of prioritizing mental health, being true to oneself, and the transformative power of creativity.

The conversation kicks off with Shirley discussing the challenges she faces in her busy life and the impact of burlesque that have helped her embrace her authentic self, leading to a profound change in how she approaches life and work. The group explores the metaphorical "outfits" we wear in life and the significance of feeling safe in our own skin, drawing parallels to the art of burlesque.

Shirley opens up about her therapeutic journey, overcoming struggles through self-discovery, and the importance of finding the right guide or facilitator. She reflects on her intentional path forward, moving from a place of survival to thriving with confidence and unapologetic self-expression. Mariel and Josh resonate with her story, underscoring the shared nature of life's hardships and the collective evolution they drive.

Delving into more personal territory, Shirley recounts her experience with self-imposed isolation during recovery from emotional abuse. She highlights the necessity of prioritizing her own needs and the guilt she initially felt. Through this journey, she has learned to embrace her growth and authenticity, no longer apologizing for being herself. This message of self-acceptance and truth is a recurring theme throughout the episode.

Exploring the balance between emotional expression and authenticity, Shirley describes her journey from suppressing to fully expressing her emotions, finding a comfortable middle ground. She stresses the importance of guiding children to find their own truth and path, sharing how her pursuit of burlesque has been a form of self-expression and personal transformation.

Throughout the episode, Shirley emphasizes the integral role of creativity in her life, debunking her previous belief that she lacked creative talent. Her engagement with burlesque, writing, and art has become a therapeutic outlet, helping her navigate challenging moments. Mariel and Josh agree, highlighting the unique nature of creativity and expression for each individual.

The conversation touches on maintaining emotional balance and teaching children to embrace all emotions. Shirley shares her experiences with asserting personal boundaries and managing guilt when prioritizing her own needs. She advocates for the recognition that one's needs are as important as others', while still considering the importance of meeting others' needs.

In a powerful closing discussion, Shirley encourages a collaborative and inclusive mindset, using the metaphor of shared light to illustrate the beauty of multiple perspectives. She talks about finding her purpose through burlesque, using her platform to create space for others to express themselves and share their stories. Mariel and Josh admire her resilience and storytelling, culminating in an anticipation for an upcoming event that aims to showcase talents and give back to the community.