Disillusioned Law Student Drops Out and Becomes A Marketing Genius – Anneliese Vance | EP176
10/31/23 • 54 min
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She loved building relationships and advocating for people. So Anneliese Vance paved the way for a career path that would make this possible: Law. Unfortunately college filled her with discontent and dropping out was a hard decision she knew she had to make. But, Anneliese discovered another path to advocacy—marketing—and hasn't turned back ever since.
Listen in as this college dropout turned successful entrepreneur, shares her journey from her first big job to starting her own consulting company. She discusses the value of on-the-job learning, her approach to sales and customer retention, and the challenges and rewards of business ownership.
Timestamps:
- (0:00) — Introduction and Guest Background: Anneliese Vance
- (00:53) — Introduction to Anneliese' career
- (02:37) — Blueprint for success
- (04:11) — Realistic salary range for a marketing manager
- (5:16) — High school experience
- (06:40) — Jobs held while in high school
- (07:02) — Post-high-school experience/plans
- (10:17) — Selling dream vacations to families
- (13:03) — First Big Job at YellowBook
- (15:21) — Relevant skills picked up at YellowBook
- (18:28) — Timeframe at YellowBook
- (20:02) — Getting better at sales: Anneliese's approach to sales and customer retention
- (22:05) — The 'Get Your Dream Career Course' ad
- (28:26) — Most memorable sales made
- (32:19) — Getting let go from YellowBook
- (34:06) — The birth and growth of Anneliese's consulting company
- (41:52) — Most difficult period as a business owner
- (45:48) — Future goals(49:45) — Advice to 16-year-old Anneliese
- (52:43) — Reach out to Anneliese
- (54:02) — Outro, sponsorship and patreon mention
Support/Contact Anneliese:
Company Website: nevermissamomentconsulting.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anneliesemvance/
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/nmamconsultingllc/?locale=ms_MY
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She loved building relationships and advocating for people. So Anneliese Vance paved the way for a career path that would make this possible: Law. Unfortunately college filled her with discontent and dropping out was a hard decision she knew she had to make. But, Anneliese discovered another path to advocacy—marketing—and hasn't turned back ever since.
Listen in as this college dropout turned successful entrepreneur, shares her journey from her first big job to starting her own consulting company. She discusses the value of on-the-job learning, her approach to sales and customer retention, and the challenges and rewards of business ownership.
Timestamps:
- (0:00) — Introduction and Guest Background: Anneliese Vance
- (00:53) — Introduction to Anneliese' career
- (02:37) — Blueprint for success
- (04:11) — Realistic salary range for a marketing manager
- (5:16) — High school experience
- (06:40) — Jobs held while in high school
- (07:02) — Post-high-school experience/plans
- (10:17) — Selling dream vacations to families
- (13:03) — First Big Job at YellowBook
- (15:21) — Relevant skills picked up at YellowBook
- (18:28) — Timeframe at YellowBook
- (20:02) — Getting better at sales: Anneliese's approach to sales and customer retention
- (22:05) — The 'Get Your Dream Career Course' ad
- (28:26) — Most memorable sales made
- (32:19) — Getting let go from YellowBook
- (34:06) — The birth and growth of Anneliese's consulting company
- (41:52) — Most difficult period as a business owner
- (45:48) — Future goals(49:45) — Advice to 16-year-old Anneliese
- (52:43) — Reach out to Anneliese
- (54:02) — Outro, sponsorship and patreon mention
Support/Contact Anneliese:
Company Website: nevermissamomentconsulting.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/anneliesemvance/
Facebook: https://m.facebook.com/nmamconsultingllc/?locale=ms_MY
Books and resources mentioned in this podcast:
Resume course: https://bit.ly/podcastpcav
Need career or resume advice? Follow and/or connect with Jonaed Iqbal on LinkedIn.
LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/JonaedIqbalND
Connect with us on social media!
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Join our discord server: https://bit.ly/NoDegreeDiscord
Thank you for sponsoring our show. If you'd like to support our mission to end the stigma and economic disparity that comes along with not having a college degree, please share with a friend, drop us a review on Apple Podcast and/or subscribe to our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/nodegree.
Remember, no degree? No problem! Whether you're contemplating college or you're a college dropout, get started with your no-degree job search at nodegree.com.
Need career or resume advice? Follow and/or connect with Jonaed Iqbal on LinkedIn.
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Connect with us on social media!
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(4:43) The changing landscape of journalism and the shift towards independent journalism
(6:06) Building a portfolio in journalism and salary ranges
(10:29) Need resume help?
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(16:33) How an unpaid internship got him a foot in the door
(18:44) Lessons from the first job
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(36:08) The purpose of Christopher's book 'Uneducated' and the importance of viewing education holistically
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(20:53) — What does enterprise software cost?
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(24:27) — Most difficult career experience
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(26:28) — Advice to 18-year-old Jeremy
(27:18) — Looking ahead: Future goals and business plans
(30:43) Industry insights: Advice for aspiring network engineers
Support/Contact Jeremy:
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