
Episode 18: Pageants, Prejudice & Patsy: A Mother's Story
02/21/25 • 26 min
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, hosts Lauren and Lacey dive into the JonBenét Ramsey case, specially on the media's treatment of Patsy Ramsey. Lauren and Lacey discuss children's beauty pageants in the South versus other regions in the United States and analyze how the media unfairly sexualized JonBenét's pageant participation.
Lauren & Lacey discuss the examination of the evidence supporting the intruder theory, including:
- Unmatched DNA evidence
- Similar break-in attempt at another dance student's home
- The broken basement window and suitcase placement
- Critical look at the media's treatment of women in the 1990s
- Comparison to other high-profile cases and media bias against women
- Personal reflections on motherhood, shared interests with children, and judgment of parenting choices
Two notable quotes from this episode from Lacey: "If anybody looks at a child in pageantry or on the beach in a bikini and has those thoughts, they're the problem. They're the pedophile." and...
"You don't know how you're going to react. And let's hope we never do, right? Let's hope we never have to know."
The Lawmas can be reached at [email protected]
#podcast #lawmoms #laurenandlacey #jonbenétramsey #patsyramsey #thelawmas #highprofilecrime #truecrime
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast, hosts Lauren and Lacey dive into the JonBenét Ramsey case, specially on the media's treatment of Patsy Ramsey. Lauren and Lacey discuss children's beauty pageants in the South versus other regions in the United States and analyze how the media unfairly sexualized JonBenét's pageant participation.
Lauren & Lacey discuss the examination of the evidence supporting the intruder theory, including:
- Unmatched DNA evidence
- Similar break-in attempt at another dance student's home
- The broken basement window and suitcase placement
- Critical look at the media's treatment of women in the 1990s
- Comparison to other high-profile cases and media bias against women
- Personal reflections on motherhood, shared interests with children, and judgment of parenting choices
Two notable quotes from this episode from Lacey: "If anybody looks at a child in pageantry or on the beach in a bikini and has those thoughts, they're the problem. They're the pedophile." and...
"You don't know how you're going to react. And let's hope we never do, right? Let's hope we never have to know."
The Lawmas can be reached at [email protected]
#podcast #lawmoms #laurenandlacey #jonbenétramsey #patsyramsey #thelawmas #highprofilecrime #truecrime
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Episode 17: From Blind Side to Blindsided: The Michael Oher Story
This episode of The Lawmas explores Michael Oher's conservatorship case and a broader discussion about protecting young athletes' finances in the NIL era.
But first: a question answered about Miranda rights and deaf individuals. Officers use written cards for DUI cases. They also discuss challenges with field sobriety tests for deaf individuals and how there are now translation apps for Spanish-speaking individuals.
With Michael Oher's conservatorship case, Lauren & Lacey explain how it extended until age 25, which is very unusual for non-disabled adults. Oher believed he was signing adoption papers. They talk about the lack of proper oversight and accounting in Tennessee and the Tuohy's handling of movie proceeds.
Lauren & Lacey also discuss NIL Implications. There is concern about young athlets managing sudden wealth, how some athletes start college at 17-18 years old and how there is a need for financial protection and education.
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Episode 19: If the Dress Fits: Marcia Clark and Gender Bias in Law
In this episode of The Lawmas Podcast features Lauren and Lacey discussing two topics.
First, they address a legal question about family obligations to notify siblings about a parent's passing, explaining that while there's no legal requirement to inform relatives about an illness, probate laws require notification of all potential heirs after death.
The main topic of this episode dives into the O.J. Simpson case, focusing on how prosecutor Marcia Clark faced gender-based scrutiny during the trial. They discuss media criticism of Clark's appearance and unfair blame for trial outcomes despite her limited decision-making power. Lauren and Lacey also explore how the case transformed media coverage of trials and mention Simpson's civil case judgment and current estate disputes. They also reflecting on progress for women in male-dominated fields while acknowledging persistent challenges.
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