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The E Word

The E Word

Karen McFarlane and Brittany S. Hale

Tune into "The E Word" with Brittany and Karen as they sift through the part of DEI that everyone tiptoes around - Equity. It’s like a closet overhaul for your brain! They'll help you sort through the mess, point out what to keep that works, and highlight what to ditch that doesn't. With each episode, they'll unpack real-life examples from legal, marketing, and leadership angles, showing you why equity isn't just good—it's critical to business growth and sustainability. Get ready to declutter your views and make space for fairness and justice for all.

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Ever wondered how Corporate America shapes its political landscape? Tune into "The E-Word" as we discuss the recent endorsement of Kamala Harris by 88 powerhouse CEOs. We'll uncover what this wave of support means for economic stability and corporate trust and why companies are now more compelled than ever to take definitive political and social stances. Our conversation doesn't shy away from the reality that businesses are now key players in the political arena, often guiding the market's stability and societal expectations.
But that's not all – this episode also addresses the unique hurdles faced by women, especially Black women, in leadership roles. We confront the injustices and biases that persist, highlighting the importance of decisiveness and inclusivity in corporate strategies. Join us as we explore the future of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) in business, advocating for it to be more than just a checkbox but a core element of organizational growth and culture. From scrutinizing traditional DEI training to discussing how brands can genuinely embrace diversity, this episode promises a thought-provoking look at the evolving dynamics of corporate leadership.
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Ever found yourself echoing the unheard prophecies of Cassandra, the Trojan priestess doomed to speak truths no one would believe? That's the thread Karen & Brittany tug at as they explore the labyrinth of trust and credibility, where the workplace becomes our modern-day Troy.
In this episode, Karen and Brittany peel back the layers on why certain voices are bolstered and others stifled. They examine the unique hurdles Black women leap over in professional arenas and examine how trauma shapes their work armor as they double down on their professional expertise. They dissect the concept of "cultural fit" and the biases lurking behind it, challenging the status quo of subjective hiring practices and providing advice on how to build equitable teams and how to forge a workplace where every member's worth is measured by their mastery, not by likability.
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Workplace Divided: Diversity and Equity and Inclusion and Discrimination

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Is SHRM abandoning equity? Join Brittany and Karen as they dissect SHRM's rather confusing shift from diversity, equity, inclusion, and belonging (DEIB) to a narrower focus on inclusion and diversity (I&D). In this episode, Brittany and Karen:

  • Dig into the implications of omitting "equity" from the equation, especially given its critical role in creating truly inclusive workplaces.
  • Explore the potential disconnect between SHRM's stated ethos and their real-world implementation, emphasizing that equity is essential for any discussion about inclusion.
  • Question whether SHRM is avoiding the complex issue of defining "equity" and its role as a leading HR organization in setting the standard rather than sidestepping the challenge.
  • Highlight the need for clear frameworks and actionable tools to help HR practitioners navigate these complex issues, especially when engaging with leadership.

Drawing insights from a Forbes article written by DEI expert Aparna Rae, Karen & Brittany explore her recommendations for the HR community, such as advocating for better representation and considering the impact of SHRM's decisions on the industry. We also reflect on SHRM CEO Johnny Taylor's communication strategy, the risks he has taken with this pivot, and the timing of SHRM's announcement on Black Women's Equal Pay Day. The episode wraps up with a discussion about the importance of defining equity and how the organization's focus on civility might shape the future of DEI initiatives.
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Ever wondered how polished delivery can overshadow policy substance? We promise you'll learn how vice-presidential debates often favor soundbites and media-savvy appearances, potentially leading to public misconceptions. Brittany and Karen discuss the nuances of political communication, highlighting the importance of critical thinking and the role social media platforms like TikTok play in reshaping the voter landscape.
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Is academic freedom a shield for hate speech, or should educators be held accountable for perpetuating racism? Karen & Brittany confront the provocative actions of Professor Amy Wax at the University of Pennsylvania, whose racially insensitive remarks have sparked controversy.
As we dissect her advocacy for "cultural distance nationalism" and the alarming public disclosure of student grades by race, we tackle the profound implications of such biases within academia. A law professor's influential role should never amplify harmful ideologies, and this episode stresses the urgent need for vigilance and accountability in educational settings.
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This episode unpacks monumental moments like Mexico's inaugural woman president and the significance of a mixed-race Black woman running for the U.S. presidency. The challenges faced by political figures like Kamala Harris are front and center, as Karen & Brittany tackle perceptions and the crucial role of shared democratic responsibilities. They discuss the complex interplay of gender, race, and age in politics, spotlighting the hurdles women of color face in leadership and the tension between hyper-individualism and collective interests, especially within the Black community, where political views can spark familial strife, even among MAGA supporters. This episode is a heartfelt exploration of how personal identity and politics are inextricably linked, urging us to connect over shared values while embracing our diverse perspectives.
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Every strand tells a story, and in our latest episode, we weave through the complex tapestry of hair's role in equity and self-expression. I open up about the personal hurdles I've faced sporting dreads and dyed hair in professional spheres, while we also unravel the historical battles for acceptance that many like Daryl George have endured. This isn't just talking about hair grooming – it's a deep-rooted discussion about societal norms, where we spotlight the need for an inclusive reimagining of workplace and societal perspectives on hair.
We then pay tribute to the powerful legacy of Black women's hair, a resilient emblem of identity through the centuries. From the oppressive tignon laws to Madam C.J. Walker's pioneering beauty empire, we celebrate the artistry and resistance sewn into every braid, twist, and coil. Icons like Issa Rae and Tina Turner serve as our muses, illustrating hair's role in empowerment and cultural pride. By sharing how to genuinely support others' hair journeys and debunking myths with grace, we champion a future where every hair texture and style is not merely tolerated but embraced with open admiration.
Continuing Education

  1. The Person Beneath the Hair: Hair Discrimination, Health, and Well-Being (National Library of Medicine)
  2. Is Hair Discrimination Race Discrimination? (American Bar Association)
  3. The CROWN Act hasn’t ended hair discrimination in Texas (Brookings)
  4. A Black student was suspended for his hairstyle. The school says it wasn’t discrimination (Associated Press)
  5. The CROWN Act
  6. How Hair Discrimination Affects Black Women at Work (HBR)
  7. Penalizing Black hair in the name of academic success is undeniably racist, unfounded, and against the law (Brookings)

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Discover how the landscape of marketing leadership is being reshaped with a historic shift towards female empowerment, as we examine what it really means to hold power and influence in this competitive industry. Celebrations may be in order for the rise of women to 51% of Chief Marketing Officer roles, but we peel back the veneer to question the equity within this progress, particularly when juxtaposed with the staggering statistic that only 1% of agency owners are female. We probe into the depths of representation disparities, from creative directors to the highest echelons of advertising, to understand the full picture of gender parity in the marketing realm.
The fabric of brand loyalty is woven with threads of respect and trust, but what happens when these are tested in the court of law and public opinion? We scrutinize a contentious lawsuit that challenges brand values and inclusivity, as Hello Alice and Progressive Insurance face accusations of discrimination for their commitment to supporting Black-owned businesses. This segment navigates the treacherous waters of consumer expectations and the ethical responsibilities businesses must shoulder in an age where every action is scrutinized, shaping narratives around inclusivity and integrity.
Finally, we confront the raw, uncomfortable truths of systemic racism and privilege that cast long shadows over business funding and opportunity. Through the lens of recent legal actions against initiatives like the Fearless Fund's grants for Black women business owners, we challenge the status quo and invite introspection on the role of institutional power in perpetuating economic disparities. By dissecting the dynamics of racism and the misuse of legal precedent, we uncover the need for intentional action against systemic barriers, urging listeners to recognize the importance of dismantling these walls for a more equitable society. Join us in these deep conversations, where the pursuit of true freedom and equity remains our unwavering goal.
Continuing Education

  1. How to Effectively — and Legally — Use Racial Data for DEI
  2. After history of discrimination, these federal contractors fought to hide diversity data
  3. Why better reporting on racial and ethnic equity can improve diversity and inclusion outcomes

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Karen & Brittany's candid conversation sheds light on the systemic obstacles Black women leaders face climbing the corporate ladder back by disturbing findings from the McKinsey and LeanIn 2022 report. Learn how Black women, ambitious and poised for executive roles, are still being underestimated and labeled, their judgment second-guessed, and resilience tested in today's professional environments.
Dive into the nuances of identity politics, its role in shaping opportunities, and how we can leverage it to break down barriers for people of color. We engage with the historical context and its effect on the corporate presence of Black women, emphasizing the significance of collective action to amplify representation and authority in leadership spaces. This episode is a rallying cry for individual and corporate responsibility to actively dismantle biases and cultivate a culture where diversity is not just welcomed but celebrated.
We wrap up with an insightful discussion inspired by Bozoma Saint John's bold moves at Netflix, evaluating workplace biases and their legal ramifications. The conversation moves through a spectrum of subtle to overt prejudices, from body size to communication style, and how they impact women's careers, particularly those of color.
We then shift focus toward creating workplaces that champion inclusivity and support all employees, highlighting the importance of a workplace that not only recognizes but embraces the unique attributes and life choices of its workforce.
Continuing Education

  1. Black Women Leaders Are More Ambitious But Less Supported At Work, McKinsey And Lean In Study Finds
  2. Is There A Corporate 'Caste System'?
  3. 2022 Women in the Workplace Report
  4. Women are held back at work due to 30 biases out of their control, says new study: ‘They were never quite right’
  5. Code-Switching and Concrete Ceilings: How Racism in the Workplace Affects Black Women
  6. Racism and Sexism Combine to Shortchange Working Black Women
  7. The Infuriating Journey From Pet To Threat: How Bias Undermines Black Women At Work

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Karen and Brittany explore the impact of the June 2023 Affirmative Action ruling and the lawsuit against Fearless Fund, a VC firm dedicated to providing pre-seed, seed-level, and Series-A financing to women of color. They dissect the argument of the lawsuit's leader, who believes race should not be a factor in decision-making, and highlight how this legal shift ignores systemic inequalities and targets vulnerable groups. They also discuss the impact on organizations, the importance of leadership's resilience, and how to use the lawsuit as a marketing opportunity.
Continued Learning

  1. Here’s what the Fearless Fund lawsuit could mean for venture
  2. Affirmative action fight comes to Corporate America
  3. Man Behind U.S. Supreme Court's Affirmative Action Decision Sues VC Fund Supporting Black-Women-Owned Businesses
  4. He Worked for Years to Overturn Affirmative Action and Finally Won. He’s Not Done.

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FAQ

How many episodes does The E Word have?

The E Word currently has 16 episodes available.

What topics does The E Word cover?

The podcast is about Society & Culture, Marketing, Leadership, Equity, Dei, Podcasts and Business.

What is the most popular episode on The E Word?

The episode title 'How does belief and bias affect the Cassandra's of Corporate America?' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on The E Word?

The average episode length on The E Word is 36 minutes.

How often are episodes of The E Word released?

Episodes of The E Word are typically released every 7 days, 21 hours.

When was the first episode of The E Word?

The first episode of The E Word was released on Apr 1, 2024.

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