The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

Part 3 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series

I talk with Laura Monaco Torelli, KPA CTP/Faculty Instructor, CPDT-KA, about her work with animals in zoos and aquariums as well as discuss her conference talk: The Great Expectations of Cooperative Care: Unravel the Who, Where, What, and Why of Husbandry Behaviors.

Guest: Laura Monaco Torelli is the founder of Animal Behavior Training Concepts in Chicago, Illinois. She began her career in 1991 at Chicago’s Shedd Aquarium, where she trained beluga whales, dolphins, sea otters, seals, river otters, and penguins. Laura serves as a Faculty Instructor with Karen Pryor Academy for Animal Training & Behavior (KPA), and as a Teaching Assistant for Dr. Susan G. Friedman’s Living & Learning with Animals online course. She offers private training at West Loop Veterinary Care, located in downtown Chicago.

Book Recommendation: Crucial Conversations: Tools for Talking When Stakes are High, by Kerry Patterson

Host: Marika completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She also holds a University degree in Zoology (UW) and a CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers.

Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disciplines of Anthrozoology as well as authors, nonprofits, professionals, and enthusiasts!

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This podcast was produced on Historical Tribal Land of the Quinault Indian Nation and The Snoqualmie Tribe Ancestral Lands

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115. The Genitalia Arms Race! with Dr. Patty Brennan

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02/24/25 • 53 min

93: Human Relevant Testing: A Conversation on Enhancing Human Health and Animal Welfare with Dr. Aysha Akhtar (S9)

Episode 1 of Series 13 Transcript

In this episode, Dr. Patricia Brennan explores the evolutionary battles between male and female genital adaptations, revealing how animals like ducks and dolphins develop complex reproductive strategies. Through her work, she highlights the surprising ways that nature grants females reproductive autonomy despite intense sexual conflict.

Guest Bio: Dr. Patricia Brennan is an evolutionary biologist specializing in reproductive anatomy and sexual selection, with research spanning birds, snakes, bats, dolphins, and sharks. Originally from Colombia, she earned her undergraduate degree in Marine Biology and conducted marine mammal research around the Galápagos before shifting her focus to birds during her PhD at Cornell University. Her groundbreaking work on avian genitalia has expanded to broader studies on genital coevolution, exploring how reproductive structures evolve in response to mating strategies. Now based in Amherst, MA, she continues to lead innovative research, currently supported by an NSF Career Grant to study genital evolution in snakes.

Book Recommendations: Vagina Obscura: An Anatomical Voyage by Rachel Gross and Bitch: On the Female of the Species by Lucy Cooke

57: Valentines Special!: Furry Fandom with Victoria Gersdorf

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100. The Spark (S11: Animals of the Maui Wildfires)

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06/24/24 • 46 min

Episode 1/4 Series 11 Animals of The Maui Wildfires Transcript
Welcome to the 100th episode of The Deal with Animals. I am so pleased to bring you this "something more" episode of TDWA. With the help of Audio Engineer, John Lasala, we have been able to bring you this four-part story of the days and weeks after the devastating wildfires in Maui in 2023, from the perspective of five staff members of Maui Humane Society.
Please take a moment now and visit Donate to Maui Humane Society
a special joint page set up my MHS in partnership with TDWA to raise money for MHS' continues efforts for the animals of Maui.
Thank you to All the staff of Maui Humane Society for the dedication to the animals of Maui but in particular, thank you to the guests of this series who shared their stories.
Follow the Blog and/or the Newsletter for full bio's and links

Moani Makaiwi was one of the first animal rescuers on scene during the tragic Lahaina fires. Between her strong family history in Lahaina as a native Hawaiian and her dedication to rescuing animals as a Humane Enforcement Officer, Moani's story is truly one that you will not forget.
Emily Drose is one of MHS' two Fire Cat Specialists. In this role, she has worked closely with the feeding/trapping team in the burn zone and manages the cats' movement once in the care of MHS. She was born and raised on Maui, with a background as a large animal veterinary technician, lead emergency vet tech, ( Hawaii's first ) community cat coordinator ,community outreach and humane enforcement.
Johnny Lingao is Maui Humane Society's Wildfire Community Liaison. In this role, Johnny works directly with displaced Lahaina residents and those affected by the fires to get them what they need to keep their pets, whether that be veterinary care, pet housing deposits, supplies, food, etc.
Jenny Miller The Director of Development of MHS at the time of the wildfires and my guide around the Maui Humane Society campus in October 2023
Katie Shannon worked at Maui Humane Society for 3 years, including Director of Marketing and Communications during the fires in August 2023. Katie's background is in media and marketing strategy
Other Links
AP News
Compassion Fatigue
Greater Good
Bissell Pet Foundation

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111. December Special! What a Chicken Knows...with Author, Sy Montgomery

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12/16/24 • 54 min

A delightful exploration of chickens as intelligent and complex creatures, prompting us to reconsider our perceptions of these common animals.
December Special! with Author Sy Montgomery Transcript
Guest: Sy Montgomery is a celebrated naturalist, author, and adventurer whose work has taken her to some of the wildest places on Earth. The Boston Globe described her as "Part Indiana Jones and Part Emily Dickenson". With 38 books to her name, including The Soul of an Octopus, The Good Good Pig, and now, What a Chicken Knows, Montgomery has won numerous awards for her writing. She continues to inspire readers of all ages by exploring the profound connections between humans and animals at a critical moment for our planet's future.
Book Recommendations: Exodus: Book 2-The Bible by Someone who was there?
(I don't think you need a link for this one) But her reason for choosing this one is apropos.
Other Links:
What a Chicken Knows by Sy Montgomery
Animal Liberation by Peter Singer

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34: Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini-Series: with Michael Shikashio, CDBC Part 1

The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

09/26/22 • 55 min

Part 1 of the Aggression in Dogs Conference Mini Series

We talk to Mike about his work in aggression cases and how he is been able to bring education on how to work with aggression cases to more clients and dog trainers through his podcast, The Bitey End Of The Dog , The Aggression in Dogs Conference, as well as ongoing learning through his aggression Master Course.

Guest: Michael is fully Certified through the International Association of Animal Behavior Consultants and is one of fewer than 300 CDBCs worldwide. He is the founder of the Aggression in Dogs Master Course and currently teaches trainers and behavior consultants in more than 25 countries how to work with aggression cases.

Book Recommendation: Culture Clash: A New Way Of Understanding The Relationship Between Humans And Domestic Dogs by Jean Donaldson

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E20: A Discussion with Jasmin Singer, Part 2: Animal Advocacy Activist and Editor of Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation

The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell

03/28/22 • 45 min

Episode 3 of Series 3: Equity and Social Justice in Animal Advocacy

A discussion with Jasmin Singer, Editor of Encompass Essays Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation....We had a conversation about an issue that is important to all of us and yet both her and I being white, have mostly seen the privileged side of this. So there are moments that we have a difficult time putting into words our thoughts or even recognizing the white privilege that we hold.

After the interview Jasmin contacted me with some of the same concerns I had already felt. Neither of us being experts, Had we done Justice to the topic? Could we put this discussion out into the world? In the end we decided we should, because just as the book suggested, we were having the difficult conversation and trying to work out how we can make things better. And even if we don't get it right we are going to try and we're going to keep trying. So if nothing else, this is an excellent example of the kind of conversation that we all need to be having! Because we're not going to get it right the first time, and making the effort is important. Perhaps by sharing our effort we will encourage others to do the same.

Listen to the audio essays form the book on Our Hen House Podcast! Episode 612.5: "Antiracism in Animal Advocacy" Audio Series Episode Part I - Awakening - Our Hen House

Bio- Jasmin Singer is the author of The VegNews Guide to Being a Fabulous Vegan (Hachette Go, 2020) and the memoir Always Too Much and Never Enough (Penguin Random House Berkley; 2016). She's the co-founder and co-host of the award-winning Our Hen House podcast and nonprofit (now in its eleventh year), the Director of Content & Partnerships for Kinder Beauty, and the editor of the Encompass Essays: Antiracism in Animal Advocacy: Igniting Cultural Transformation. Jasmin was named a “40 Under 40” by The Advocate Magazine, a top “Eco-Preneur” by Go Magazine, and can be seen in documentaries including Vegucated and The Ghosts In Our Machine. She has been a featured expert on TV shows such as “The Dr. Oz Show,” has contributed to several anthologies and led hundreds of workshops around the globe, and debuted her Tedx talk—“Compassion Unlocks Identity”—last year. Jasmin’s career started twenty years ago as an AIDS-awareness activist with the educational theater company, and she later went on to become the Campaigns Manager for Farm Sanctuary. Jasmin is committed to using personal narrative as a means to create change; emboldening and collaborating with do-gooders to tell their stories; creatively using media as a means of activism; and continuing to learn about the endless overlaps within social justice, and let that information inform her change-making efforts.

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64: Animals in World Religions with Author, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer (S7)

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03/27/23 • 52 min

Episode 1 of Series 7: Animals and the Divine Transcript

Dr Lisa Kemmerer shares with us the role of animals in a wide range of religions. From deities, tricksters, shapeshifters, emblems and mora agents. Animals are truly one thing that all belief systems have in common. We discuss the value of indigenous teachings and reciprocity and Lisa gives insight into how to write about religion as an outsider as well as how to engage with your own religion. She also gives us some exclusive insights into her upcoming website.

Guest: Internationally known for her work in animal ethics, Dr. Lisa Kemmerer is the founder of the educational, vegan umbrella organization, Tapestry. With a Master of Theological Studies in Comparative Religions (Harvard) and a Ph.D. in philosophy (specializing in animal ethics at Glasgow University, in Scotland), Kemmerer taught for 20 years at the university level. She has written more than 100 articles/anthology chapters and 10 books, including In Search of Consistency, Animals and World Religions, Sister Species, and Eating Earth. Dr. K retired in July of 2020 to become a full-time social justice activist with Tapestry.

Book Recommendation: Vegan Ethics: AMORE—Five Reasons to Choose Vegan by Dr. Lisa Kemmerer

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This podcast was produced

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51: Canid Olfaction and Our Shared Umwelt with Dr. Simon Gadbois (S6)

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01/02/23 • 57 min

Episode 4 of Series 7: The Animal Protagonist

I talk with the fascinating Dr. Simon (pronounced Simo) Gadbois, about the canid nose and the complicated relationship humans have with dogs.

Guest: Simon Gadbois integrates ethology, animal experimental psychology, and behavioural neuroscience to study wild and domestic canids. He completed his Ph.D. in behavioural endocrinology at the Canadian Centre for Wolf Research (CCWR) examining the hormonal correlates of social behaviour in wolves, as well as action sequences in wolves, coyotes and red foxes. When the CCWR closed in 2007, he started the Canid Behaviour Research Lab at Dalhousie University and focused his research on coyote-human conflicts and canine scent detection and search. He is interested in the fundamental science of olfaction and olfactory learning, as well as some applications: His lab has focused on environmental/conservation, biomedical, and forensic applications of scent processing in dogs.

Book Recommendation: Why Zebras Don't Get Ulcers, Third Edition by Robert M. Sapolsky

How the Dog Became the Dog: From Wolves to Our Best Friends by Mark Derr, Man Meets Dog by Konrad Lorenz

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63: EVAT Mini-series (Part 6): Free-Living Cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries a Round Table with Kris Hill and Dr. Jacqui Sadashige

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03/13/23 • 71 min

Part 6: Emerging Voices for Animal in Tourism Conference Mini-Series 2023 Transcript

I chat with both Kris Hill and Jacqui Sadashige about their research in Free Living cats and Farm Animal Sanctuaries respectively. And we talk about our takeways from The Emerging Voices For Animals in Tourism Conference. A fun and wide ranging discussion!

Guest: Jacqui has a Ph.D. in Classical Studies from the University of Pennsylvania and an MA in Global Conservation from Miami University's Global Field Program. Her research interests include elephant tourism in Thailand and visitor engagement at farmed animal sanctuaries in the U.S. She is a lecturer in Gender Studies and Film at the University of Pennsylvania and Drexel University in Philadelphia.

Book Recommendation: Saving Animals: Multispecies Ecologies of Rescue and Care by Elan Abrell and

Esther the Wonder Pig: Changing the World One Heart at a Time by Steve Jenkins, Derek Walter, and Caprice Crane

Guest: Kris is completing a PhD in Anthrozoology with the University of Exeter, UK. Her doctoral research focuses on cat-human relations within urban communities, and discourses surrounding free-roaming and free-living cats (Felis catus). Other academic areas of interests include morethanhuman families, griefwork, animal representations, and Mediterranean street cats and cat-human cultures. A lifelong cat-lover, the majority or her travel photos have always included cats! Read more here: https://katzenlife.wordpress.com/

Book Recommendation: Watership Down:A Novel by Richard Adams

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112. A Very Banksy Roundtable with Claudia Hirtenfelder and Shannon Johnstone

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12/30/24 • 60 min

Episode 6 of Series 12: Animals in Art and Culture Transcript
Guests: Claudia Towne Hirtenfelder began the Animal Turn in February 2020 as a culmination of her interests in animals, ethics, and media.

She completed her PhD in Geography at Queen's University in Kingston, Ontario. Her scholarly interests sit in the intersection of geography, urban studies, animal studies, history and power relations.

Claudia is the founder and former host of Beyond Canada: International Thought and Scholarship. You can find Claudia on Twitter (@ClaudiaFTowne)

Mary Shannon Johnstone received her BFA from The School of the Art Institute of Chicago, and MFA in photography from Rochester Institute of Technology.

She is the recipient of numerous awards including "Pause, To Begin" artist, Critical Mass Top 50 (2009, 2010), and Honorable Mention in Lens Culture's 2010 International Exposure Awards. Johnstone is a tenured Associate Professor at Meredith College in NC

Book Recommendations: Claudia's Recommendations- Beyond Words by Cark Safina and What a Fish Knows: The Inner Lives of Our Underwater Cousins by Jonathan Balcombe

Shannon's Recommendation- We Animals by Jo-Anne Mcarthur.
The London Exhibition Review- MyArtBroker.com

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