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The Deal With Animals with Marika S. Bell - E21: Spring Special! Hal Herzog: On the the Past, Present, and Future of Anthrozoology

E21: Spring Special! Hal Herzog: On the the Past, Present, and Future of Anthrozoology

04/11/22 • 73 min

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We talk with Author of "Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat", Hal Herzog, about some of the bigger questions facing anthrozoology right now. Where Anthrozoology is going and what got us here in the first place.

Guest: Hal Herzog has been investigating the complex psychology of our interactions with other species for more than two decades. He is particularly interested in how people negotiate real-world ethical dilemmas, and he has studied animal activists, cockfighters, animal researchers, and circus animal trainers. An award-winning teacher and researcher, he has written more than 100 articles and book chapters. His research has been published in journals such as Science, The American Psychologist, The Journal of the Royal Society, The American Scholar, New Scientist, Anthrozoös, BioScience, The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, and Animal Behavior. His work has been covered by Newsweek, Slate, Salon, National Public Radio, Scientific American, USA Today, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Chicago Tribune and many other newspapers. In 2013, he was given the Distinguished Scholar Award by the International Society for Anthrozoology.

Hal Herzog is Professor of Psychology at Western Carolina University and lives in the Smoky Mountains with his wife Mary Jean and their cat Tilly.

Hal’s blog – Animals and Us

Hal’s research and some web-accessible articles

Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service.

She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disc

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We talk with Author of "Some We Love, Some We Hate, Some We Eat", Hal Herzog, about some of the bigger questions facing anthrozoology right now. Where Anthrozoology is going and what got us here in the first place.

Guest: Hal Herzog has been investigating the complex psychology of our interactions with other species for more than two decades. He is particularly interested in how people negotiate real-world ethical dilemmas, and he has studied animal activists, cockfighters, animal researchers, and circus animal trainers. An award-winning teacher and researcher, he has written more than 100 articles and book chapters. His research has been published in journals such as Science, The American Psychologist, The Journal of the Royal Society, The American Scholar, New Scientist, Anthrozoös, BioScience, The Journal of the American Veterinary Medical Association, and Animal Behavior. His work has been covered by Newsweek, Slate, Salon, National Public Radio, Scientific American, USA Today, The Washington Post, The Boston Globe, The Chicago Tribune and many other newspapers. In 2013, he was given the Distinguished Scholar Award by the International Society for Anthrozoology.

Hal Herzog is Professor of Psychology at Western Carolina University and lives in the Smoky Mountains with his wife Mary Jean and their cat Tilly.

Hal’s blog – Animals and Us

Hal’s research and some web-accessible articles

Host: Marika started her career with non-human animals while obtaining her University degree in Zoology (UW). Initially she worked with large carnivores at zoos but after taking a course in dog training, and obtaining her CPDT-KA from the Certification Council for Professional Dog Trainers, she caught the animal welfare ‘bug’ and has been working with shelters and sanctuaries internationally for more than a decade. During this time she received the Susan Wilkens Achievement Award from APDTAU for her work in the sheltering community and The Queen's Diamond Jubilee award for Meritorious Volunteer Service.

She completed her MA in Anthrozoology at the University of Exeter, UK in 2016 and upon moving back to the Seattle area of Washington state she joined the board of Homeward Pet Adoption Center. She served a term as the board president in 2020 and continues to serve on the leadership team as the past president. Now, host of The Deal with Animals, she enjoys chatting with people who know a lot more than she does about the various research disc

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See: www.lorigruen.com

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