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The Business of Writing Podcast

The Business of Writing Podcast

Rachel Mazza and Laura Gale

The Business of Writing Podcast is where the best creative minds of our time share how they’ve built thriving businesses around their writing skills. It’s time to kill the myth that writing doesn’t pay—on this show you’ll learn how to make words work for you. We’ll be going deep into the art and science of great writing, the business acumen you need to make your business thrive, and writers of all kinds will share hard-earned insights you won’t get anywhere else. So if you want to master the business of writing, subscribe so you never miss an episode
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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 099: Adam Hunt: Comedic Conversion Writing

BOW 099: Adam Hunt: Comedic Conversion Writing

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07/13/21 • 33 min

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Adam Hunt is a TV Producer turned Copywriter who specializes in comedic copywriting. He says there’s an art to writing jokes that work for brands – and a science that makes sure the end result is on-brand, on-message and won’t get you cancelled.

Adam brought together TV’s best comedy writers to form his White Label Comedy Hive-Mind.

They, to help brands of all shapes and sizes entertain, engage and sell. Which, he says, was not as hard as it sounds, since they were all in the same branch of Starbucks complaining about the WiFi. He now keeps them in a small bucket on his coffee table, occasionally feeding them episodes of Cheers.

Episode Highlights
  • How Adam convinced a bunch of TV writers to give up their fat paychecks and jump ship and start a copy agency
  • Why joke formulas don’t always work in persuasive copy (and the counterintuitive reason Adam still uses them)
  • How to find the perfect balance of comedy, psychology, and marketing to write a winning piece every time
  • Why you should always start with conversion copy before thinking about the joke
  • How to use comedy to get your audience to lower their resistance and be more open to hearing your message.
  • The secret to avoiding cringe worthy jokes when injecting humor into your brand
  • How to avoid the biggest mistakes newbie writers make when trying their hand at humor
  • Adam’s advice for managing (and corralling) a team of writers and comedians

And plenty more along the way. Get the resources mentioned in this episode below.

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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 055: Justin Goff: Building Wealth As A Writer
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06/02/20 • 33 min

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Justin Goff is well known for helping marketers and business owners scale their offers to cold traffic. He grew his own supplement company from $0 to $23 million in just under three years by focusing on cold traffic growth.

After selling that company in 2017, Justin now runs a high-level mentorship program called Copy Accelerator with Stefan Georgi, where they help business owners and freelance copywriters rapidly increase their revenue.

We’ve crossed paths with Justin at various events and masterminds over the last few years, and he is always warm and generous with his knowledge.

Today we’re excited to share how he created such rapid growth in his business, and how you can do the same to strategically build wealth as a writer.

Episode Highlights
  • The specific actions Justin took to go from dead broke to multi-millionaire in just a few years
  • How he finds out exactly what’s working in any given market in real time
  • Justin’s advice for how freelancers should handle the corona-crisis right now
  • How to tap into what’s at the front of your audience’s mind
  • The simplest way to start investing and build long-term wealth as a freelancer
  • How to go from “gig to gig” to a bigger, better writing business
  • What Justin would do first if he started over from scratch
  • How Justin has shifted his business to keep up with the changing times
  • What to look for when finding and choosing a copywriting mentor
  • Justin’s 80/20 breakdown of what makes great sales copy

And plenty more along the way. Get the resources mentioned in this episode below.

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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 094: Rachel and Laura: Building A Business That Lasts
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05/04/21 • 32 min

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Many industries today - especially online marketing - are so transient and based on “trends.” One thing we want to do here on this show is make sure we’re sharing lessons and insights that will stand the test of time.

Stories to help you build a business without being worn out, stressed out, and ready to quit. Stuff that is sustainable and can help you build long-term growth.

So today Laura and I want to share more about the evolution of our businesses over time, and the lessons we’ve learned that will help you build a business that’s set to thrive through all kinds of ups and downs, and turns of industry so you can always make great money doing what you love.

Episode Highlights
  • The catalyst that caused each of us to launch our businesses
  • How we overcame the biggest difficulties as we built our businesses
  • The main values we seek out in clients, employees, and business partners
  • Our biggest “ah ha” moments over 10 years of working for ourselves
  • How we stay updated with new business ideas and strategies
  • The secret to finding that work-life balance
  • Our best advice for our younger selves if we were to do it all again

And plenty more along the way.

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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 096: Angie Colee: Permission To Kick Ass

BOW 096: Angie Colee: Permission To Kick Ass

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06/01/21 • 31 min

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Angie Colee is a heavily-tattooed rocker turned copywriter and entrepreneurial coach. She was one of our very first guests here on the show, and since then she’s made some incredible shifts in her business.

She’s recently said goodbye to most of her client work to focus on her coaching, podcast, and writing a book – All supported by the incredible lessons she’s learned on her journey from cubicle copywriter to badass business owner.

In that time she’s coached hundreds of creative freelancers through finding clients and confidently fulfilling the gig...

Strategized and written multiple multi-million dollar launches, including two during the recent pandemic...

And Generated over $50MM in direct-to-consumer sales with her copy.

Since she walked away from her day job, she’s created strategies and promos for companies like Masterclass, Copy Chief, The Hustle, Rich Dad Poor Dad, and Product Launch Formula.

These days, she’s teaching everything she’s learned in her new business called Permission to Kick Ass. There she provides business and confidence coaching for creative entrepreneurs.

Episode Highlights
  • Why Angie decided to move away from being a copywriting gun for hire
  • How Angie manages her creative work while working remotely from the road
  • Her superpower that makes her the perfect person to turn to when you need a loving kick in the butt.
  • How to have difficult conversations with clients when you need to set boundaries
  • The difference between a "red flag" and s "miscommunication" when it comes to managing clients
  • How you can use your personality and quirks to attract the right clients
  • The filters you should run all prospects through to make sure they’re easy to work with

And plenty more along the way. Get the resources mentioned in this episode below.

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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 098: Laura Valenti: Project Management Mindset
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06/29/21 • 37 min

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So many of our listeners want to market themselves and build great platforms, we want to highlight the kind of person who can really make it happen. So today we are interviewing Laura Valenti, who is the genius behind many of the systems here at the Business of Writing. We could not have made this show without her.

Laura is a creative and dynamic project manager and UX/UI designer freelance. Ever since she was young, Laura rejected the idea that having a job had to be exhausting so she simply decided to build her dream career.

She spent 5 years working in London and a year and a half in Lisbon, before moving back to Italy (where she grew up) and bringing back everything she learned abroad. Right now she is working for multiple clients with different "hats". These days Laura is primarily a designer but she is also a project manager, social media manager and ux researcher.

Today we talk about project management, mindset, and building a business that’s authentically you.

Episode Highlights
  • How to embrace free online learning to change your career (and your life!)
  • Laura’s advice for getting paid to learn new skills
  • How to see change in your business as healthy and exciting (rather than stressful)
  • The first person you should hire when launching your new business
  • How to build trust and brand awareness quickly when you’re just getting started
  • Which parts of your business you should automate and systematize first
  • How to automate more of your writing business so you can focus on the work you love most
  • Becoming a collaborator (rather than an employee) when working with clients
  • The powerful mindset strategy behind increasing productivity and creativity
  • Laura’s advice for fixing an unproductive day
  • The 3 lists you should carry around with you daily to consistently move toward big goals
  • How to enjoy the “journey” of building your business (and not just the destination)

And plenty more along the way.

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Welcome to the Business of Writing Podcast, we're your hosts, Rachel Mazza and Laura Gale.

Both of us are writers who have been working for ourselves full-time for the better part of a decade, and it has been quite a ride.

We’ve learned so much (and are still learning) and we’ve made a lot of mistakes along the way.

On this show we'll share some of those lessons with you so you can avoid making the same mistakes while building momentum and sustainability into your writing career.

We're honored that you’ve given us your time and attention, and we don’t take that lightly. So we’ll try and make sure everything we do here is practical and applicable — all killer, no filler.

Today we'll chat about who we are and how we got started, and then going forward we’ve got a lot of great guests lined up who are going to share their expertise as well.

Episode Highlights
  • How Laura and I met in a sweaty dive bar in the mountains of Northern Thailand
  • Where our businesses started, and how they progressed to where they're at today
  • How to direct your growth as a writer based on what your market wants
  • Why you shouldn't discount imposter syndrome (and how the pro's handle it)
  • How to get paid (well!) for your writing skills
  • Why it's critical that you find someone to keep you accountable and motivated (and how it works in our businesses)
  • How you can use this show to build momentum as a professional writer, and grow a sustainable, successful writing business.
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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 097: Finka Jerkovic: How To Love Your Business, Clients, and Offers
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06/15/21 • 42 min

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Finka Jerkovic is an author, international speaker, and coach. She consults with clients on their personal branding, leadership, sales, client experience and employee engagement.

Finka believes when you bring authentic leadership and a mission-based mindset to business, you can achieve inner fulfillment, outer success and leave a transformational impact.

Today we’re talking about how to “own” your offers and your business, as Finka share her strategies from selling from a place of love, instead of fear.

Episode Highlights
  • How to pull on the tendrils of the book hiding inside you
  • Dealing with the pain (and sometimes necessity) of throwing out your first draft
  • How to know when it’s the right time to write your book
  • The strategy behind fitting a book into your overall business plan
  • How to write your book while balancing a full time job or business
  • Working with a book writing coach to get past your sticking points
  • How to fully embrace what you’re selling so you can feel free in promoting yourself and your work
  • Managing book launch anxiety (and how to avoid constantly hitting the ‘refresh’ button on your results)
  • How to sell from love instead of fear (for both your own business, and your client’s)

And plenty more along the way. Get the resources mentioned in this episode below.

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In This Episode:

Justine Sones is an entrepreneurial word nerd who loves drinking coffee, listening to the CBC, and talking about things that hurt. Following over 10 years of self-employment and a graceful faceplant into motherhood, she was bestowed an honorary degree in Roll With The Punches Planning (courtesy of herself).

Justine spends most of her time writing and coaching other high-performing women as they navigate the messy intersection of running a business and raising littles.

Her motto is ‘honesty over everything except kindness’, and she’s become an expert in using boundaries to reduce stress in your business and your life. Today we talk about setting and enforcing boundaries with clients, boosting your creativity, and how to reduce stress in your business by putting yourself first.

Episode Highlights
  • How Justine carves out time to be creative
  • Her system for balancing client work and coaching
  • How she uses creative self expression as “self care” to fuel her creativity
  • Justine’s advice for setting boundaries in her business
  • How to enforce boundaries so you ‘set the standard’ with clients
  • Why overdelivering is actually a BAD thing
  • How to correct a client relationship gone awry due to lack of boundaries
  • Her system for managing stress when working on tough client projects
  • The danger of “stress stacking” and how to process your stress so you can move past it
  • Developing a legacy with your writing

And plenty more along the way. Get the resources mentioned in this episode below.

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Today's guest hardly needs an introduction. Marcella Allison is not only one of the best copywriters in the world, but an amazing mentor, leader and speaker with over 25 years of experience working with entrepreneurs to help them grow their businesses.

She was the business manager for Carl Solway Gallery, where she helped transform the small Cincinnati gallery into an international art phenomena. As a venture capitalist, she worked with entrepreneurs and founders to help launch dozens of early-stage medical start-ups. As an entrepreneur herself, she built a successful direct response copywriting agency that works with some of the largest financial publishers, alternative health publishers, and supplement manufacturers in the country.

Today, she is a top direct response copywriter, an in-demand copy chief, sought-after mentor, and founder of the (Not So) Secret Order of the Titanides, a supportive community for women entrepreneurs.

Marcella was also awarded the 2018 Copywriter of the Year, by American Writers and Artists Inc. for her outstanding performance record and impact on the copywriting industry. We are delighted to have her on the show today, so let's dive in and hear what she has to say.

Episode Highlights
  • Marcella's biggest lessons about how to work with artists and creatives
  • Why clients should "never live on the writer's money"
  • How she translates technical knowledge from clients and gurus into compelling stories
  • Why you need to know your hourly rate (even if you don't charge by the hour)
  • How to estimate how much you'll when working for royalties
  • Why there's no such thing as a lone creative genius
  • Her process and philosophy for collaborating creatively with clients
  • What it takes TRULY takes to write at the top level in direct response
  • What to do when the client hates a piece that you think is great
  • How to deal with tough coaches and copy chiefs
  • What to do when you need to blow off steam and vent about a project or client
  • Marcella’s secret weapon for pulling an all nighter to get the job done
  • How Marcella rekindles her creativity when she’s tired or feeling burned out
  • How she uses co-mentoring to continually improve her writing, business skills, and overall life
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The Business of Writing Podcast - BOW 59: Chris Flynn: Fusing Fact and Fiction

BOW 59: Chris Flynn: Fusing Fact and Fiction

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06/30/20 • 39 min

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Chris Flynn is the author of The Glass Kingdom and A Tiger in Eden, which was shortlisted for the Commonwealth Book Prize. His latest novel, Mammoth, was released in April of 2020, and both his fiction and non-fiction work have appeared in publications like The Guardian, The Age, The Paris Review, and many more.

He’s a regular presenter at literary festivals across Australia, and has led a fascinating life full of travel, adventure, and all the makings of a great story. Today we chat with Chris about his writing process, getting published, and how he filters through all his great ideas to pull out these captivating stories.

Episode Highlights
  • How Chris first got on his publisher’s radar
  • The surprise success of his first novel (which he never even knew was published)
  • How Chris plots out his stories (even before putting pen to paper)
  • Why you shouldn’t worry about being a writer early on in life
  • Chris’ unique method for filtering through his many ideas to pull out the good ones
  • How he knows if his ideas are good enough to publish
  • Why limiting your time writing will help you produce your best work
  • How to use distraction as a creativity tool
  • His process for fusing fact and fiction (and why they’re really not that different from each other)
  • The slightly scary method he uses to get paid in between book projects

And plenty more along the way. Get the resources mentioned in this episode below.

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How many episodes does The Business of Writing Podcast have?

The Business of Writing Podcast currently has 100 episodes available.

What topics does The Business of Writing Podcast cover?

The podcast is about Entrepreneur, Writing, Podcasts, Business, Copywriting, Freelancer and Careers.

What is the most popular episode on The Business of Writing Podcast?

The episode title 'BOW 099: Adam Hunt: Comedic Conversion Writing' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on The Business of Writing Podcast?

The average episode length on The Business of Writing Podcast is 39 minutes.

How often are episodes of The Business of Writing Podcast released?

Episodes of The Business of Writing Podcast are typically released every 7 days.

When was the first episode of The Business of Writing Podcast?

The first episode of The Business of Writing Podcast was released on Jun 12, 2019.

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