
The SMS Conversation Everyone Needs to Hear in 2023
04/19/23 • 52 min
Aaron Orendorff is an eCommerce content legend, previous Editor in Chief of Shopify Plus, VP of Marketing at Common Thread Collective, and current Head of Marketing at the Shopify SMS Platform, Recart.
In this episode, we discuss the intersection of content and commerce, the 3 phase approach to building an organic content flywheel for any DTC brand to build, how to think about SMS marketing in 2023, why transparent SMS pricing is key, the 5 things that make Recart so special for Shopify brands, and Blake’s favorite SMS strategy for driving tons of traffic, Transactional SMS!
Aaron also stresses why consistency in marketing matters, bringing together organic brand building and performance paid advertising, and finding one's native content language.
If you are curious about what “great” looks like in SMS marketing in 2023 this one is for you.
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Timestamps
(0:00) Blake's High-Level Intro
(2:05) - Who is Aaron Orendorff & Recart?
(6:23) The worst piece of DTC advice Aaron has heard
(7:51) Where does Aaron derive his inspiration?
(10:38) Aaron’s #1 message to the eCommerce community if he could put it on a billboard
(11:45) The Aaron Orendorff view on the intersection of content and commerce
(13:54) The 3 principles of great content creation in any owned channel (SMS, email, social, etc...)
(24:00) 5 Ways Recart is thinking differently about SMS in 2023 plus good questions to ask your current vendor
(29:00) Reviewing campaign costs and why it can wreck your return on spend
(31:00) Why transparency in SMS pricing is key
(38:00) The power of restore links for conversions
(43:00)Transactional SMS and why it’s the #1 best-kept secret in SMS marketing
(50:00) Closing thoughts
Aaron Orendorff is an eCommerce content legend, previous Editor in Chief of Shopify Plus, VP of Marketing at Common Thread Collective, and current Head of Marketing at the Shopify SMS Platform, Recart.
In this episode, we discuss the intersection of content and commerce, the 3 phase approach to building an organic content flywheel for any DTC brand to build, how to think about SMS marketing in 2023, why transparent SMS pricing is key, the 5 things that make Recart so special for Shopify brands, and Blake’s favorite SMS strategy for driving tons of traffic, Transactional SMS!
Aaron also stresses why consistency in marketing matters, bringing together organic brand building and performance paid advertising, and finding one's native content language.
If you are curious about what “great” looks like in SMS marketing in 2023 this one is for you.
👉 The TYCA Podcast is brought to the DTC community cost-free. If you’d like to support the show, please consider leaving us a review and subscribing to the show! 🙏
Follow Blake
Follow Aaron and Recart
Check out Recart SMS at www.recart.com
Timestamps
(0:00) Blake's High-Level Intro
(2:05) - Who is Aaron Orendorff & Recart?
(6:23) The worst piece of DTC advice Aaron has heard
(7:51) Where does Aaron derive his inspiration?
(10:38) Aaron’s #1 message to the eCommerce community if he could put it on a billboard
(11:45) The Aaron Orendorff view on the intersection of content and commerce
(13:54) The 3 principles of great content creation in any owned channel (SMS, email, social, etc...)
(24:00) 5 Ways Recart is thinking differently about SMS in 2023 plus good questions to ask your current vendor
(29:00) Reviewing campaign costs and why it can wreck your return on spend
(31:00) Why transparency in SMS pricing is key
(38:00) The power of restore links for conversions
(43:00)Transactional SMS and why it’s the #1 best-kept secret in SMS marketing
(50:00) Closing thoughts
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(0:00) - Intro
(1:20) Who is Mid-Day Squares & Jake Karls
(2:39) Blake tries Mid-Day Squares Live
(4:24) Jake's best purchase under $100, his favorite hype song, and more
(5:31) Jake’s #1 message he wants to share with the world
(7:31) Building a Personal Brand and Community - How Mid-Day Squares Approaches It
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(16:24) Get Comfortable Being Uncomfortable And Why It’s Good For You
(19:38) Growing customer retention at Mid-Day Squares
(22:05) How Authenticity and Boldness Trump Anything Else
(24:58) How Mid-Day Squares Overcomes Shipping Challenges and Transparency with Perishable Goods
(28:11) Advice on Supply Chain and Retail... How to build relationships and save
(28:42) The Evolution of Customer Retention at Mid-Day Squares
(30:22) How to Talk to Customers to Make Business Decisions
(32:13) Jake’s Very Expensive Failures And What He Learned
(36:09) The Most Common Bad Advice Given in the CPG Space
(36:53) How Mid-Day Squares is Investing in Innovation [00:36:53]**
(38:47) Advice for Struggling Entrepreneurs - Being true to yourself
(41:12) Ending
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