
2024 SEO Highlights and 2025 SEO Predictions
12/30/24 • 87 min
In this special episode of Search With Candour, hosts Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook sit down with guests Arnout Hellemans, Yagmur Simsek, and Begum Kaya.
Recorded in a brand new studio to celebrate the finale of Season 3, the panel discusses SEO industry highlights from 2024, and makes some SEO predictions for 2025.
Topics include the rise of AI, shifts in search engine market shares, and the ever-evolving landscape of SEO. The conversation extends to personal branding, the importance of community in SEO, and how the integration of AI could reshape the search experience in the coming years.
Follow our guests
- Follow Arnout Hellemans on LinkedIn and Bluesky
- Follow Yagmur Simsek on LinkedIn and Search 'n' Stuff
- Follow Begum Kaya on LinkedIn
Chapters
00:00 Welcome
00:17 Introducing Our Special Guests
02:38 Highlights of 2024 in SEO
11:53 The Impact of AI on SEO
27:06 Building Trust and Brand in SEO
43:09 The Long-Term Impact of SEO Tips
43:31 The Challenge of Measuring Long-Term SEO Success
44:08 The Human Element in SEO
44:51 The Evolution of SEO Communities
45:51 Conversational Search and AI
47:00 The Future of Search Engines
49:19 The Role of AI in Everyday Tasks
01:03:41 The Impact of AI on Jobs and Society
01:13:01 Predictions for the Future of Search
01:25:58 Closing Thoughts
In this special episode of Search With Candour, hosts Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook sit down with guests Arnout Hellemans, Yagmur Simsek, and Begum Kaya.
Recorded in a brand new studio to celebrate the finale of Season 3, the panel discusses SEO industry highlights from 2024, and makes some SEO predictions for 2025.
Topics include the rise of AI, shifts in search engine market shares, and the ever-evolving landscape of SEO. The conversation extends to personal branding, the importance of community in SEO, and how the integration of AI could reshape the search experience in the coming years.
Follow our guests
- Follow Arnout Hellemans on LinkedIn and Bluesky
- Follow Yagmur Simsek on LinkedIn and Search 'n' Stuff
- Follow Begum Kaya on LinkedIn
Chapters
00:00 Welcome
00:17 Introducing Our Special Guests
02:38 Highlights of 2024 in SEO
11:53 The Impact of AI on SEO
27:06 Building Trust and Brand in SEO
43:09 The Long-Term Impact of SEO Tips
43:31 The Challenge of Measuring Long-Term SEO Success
44:08 The Human Element in SEO
44:51 The Evolution of SEO Communities
45:51 Conversational Search and AI
47:00 The Future of Search Engines
49:19 The Role of AI in Everyday Tasks
01:03:41 The Impact of AI on Jobs and Society
01:13:01 Predictions for the Future of Search
01:25:58 Closing Thoughts
Previous Episode

Google Exploit Data Discussion with Mark Williams-Cook
Jack Chambers-Ward and Mark Williams-Cook follow up on Mark's popular Search Norwich talk about conceptual models for SEO and his recent Google exploit discovery.
Mark & Jack explore the details of the fascinating Google exploit, dissect the talk's key points, and answer questions from the community.
The duo also preview next week’s big episode featuring three special guests and discuss the revamped format for Search With Candour in their cosier setting.
Stay tuned for exclusive insights into Google's data, how Google classifies queries, and what this all means for SEO in 2025.
Sponsors
Chapters
00:00 Welcome to Search with Candour
00:15 Studio Updates and Upcoming Guests
01:13 Exploring the Google Exploit
01:29 Sponsor: SE Ranking
02:50 Sponsor: Optmyzr
05:53 Advanced SEO and Conceptual Models
10:13 Understanding SEO Through Video Games
11:25 The Importance of Conceptual Models in SEO
14:53 Google Exploit Data and Its Implications
21:18 Site Quality Score and SERP Features
30:27 Optimising Click-Through Rates
33:25 The Twiddler Framework Explained
35:25 Google's Predicted Click-Through Model
37:53 The Role of Expertise in SEO
43:38 What Protobuf Is and How It Works
48:07 Wrapping Up and Future Plans
Next Episode

How SEO Changed in 2024: The web almanac with Jamie Indigo
In the first episode of 2025, host Jack Chambers-Ward is joined by Jamie Indigo, an expert in technical SEO and an overall delightful human being.
Jamie guides Jack through the findings from the 2024 Web Almanac's SEO chapter including technical data changes over recent years, offering insights and predictions for the future.
Jamie also highlights AI's rising influence, the importance of robots.txt, Core Web Vitals updates, and structured data advancements.
Follow Jamie:
- Website: https://not-a-robot.com/
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jamie-indigo/
- Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/not-a-robot.com
- Rich Snippets: https://trafficthinktank.com/rich-snippets/
Resources
- Web Almanac 2024 - SEO Chapter: https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2024/seo
- Performance chapter: https://almanac.httparchive.org/en/2024/performance
- Maggie Appleton Dark Forest: https://maggieappleton.com/ai-dark-forest
- https://youtu.be/1OvasjokuaA?si=UBNiK07uyWHjd2HX by Jess Sankhavaram-Peck
Chapters
- 00:00 Welcome to 2025: Kicking Off the New Year
- 01:11 Sponsored by SE Ranking https://seranking.com/?sou1=influencers&gr1=podcast&tg1=search_with_candour&kw1=com_first_ad&utm_source=influencers&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=com_first_ad_search_with_candour
- 02:45 Introducing Jamie Indigo: Technical SEO Expert
- 03:56 What is the Web Almanac?
- 04:43 Exploring the Methodology: Data and Analysis
- 13:47 Dynamic Rendering and Robots.txt: Trends and Changes
- 20:44 Meta Robots Directives: New Data Insights
- 29:03 Canonical Tags Explained
- 29:37 Consistency in SEO
- 33:53 JavaScript and SEO Misconceptions
- 34:51 Structured Data Insights
- 39:34 The Role of Knowledge Graphs
- 46:10 Core Web Vitals Update
- 50:05 Wrapping Up and Future Plans
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