
Liv Von Oehlreich: Director / Actor / Photographer / Psych Student / Masseuse / Moto Babe
01/28/24 • 84 min
The scene:
We are in Ladera Heights, Los Angeles, CA on a warm day in Liv’s backyard sitting on lawn chairs drinking tea. This sounds like we live gentle lives; yesterday we fixed her garage door by lifting it together and also road motorcycles all over LA. This is our normal. Our friendship has weathered many journeys and many miles on motorcycles. Join us in the garden for curiosity, laughter, and pre-psychotherapy.
Highlights:
- A Swede from Alabama
- Difficulty making female friends
- Babes Ride Out
- Clicking together quickly and easefully
- Seeking adventures together
- Attacking the stressor immediately = non-procrastination
- Being in the world, being curious, being in action
- The importance of having purpose
- Currently in her Masters of Psych at Pepperdine
- Massaging is a lot of alone time with your own thoughts
- The body communicating different messages than the mind
- Rocking the body to see where the tension is holding on
- Being present with others
- Why do they scrub you wearing black granny panties at Korean spas?
- Near-death experiences that are hilarious
- Helping others transform their lives
- Weaving in experiences of acting, psychology, and massage
- Creating your life around physical freedom
- Seeing a wide horizon in your life
- Choosing newness to avoid stagnation
- Minimizing “making wrong”, blame, being fearful of the future
- Avoiding rejection by not proceeding
- Being 100% committed, AND detached from the outcome
- The Race to Alaska documentary
- The Women Riders World Relay
- Filming 12 women on motorcycles riding through Pakistan
- Transitioning from doing everything yourself to leaning into others
- Viewing your life as many projects
- Appreciation of others and listening
- “You lose intention when you lose punctuation.”
A taste:
“Through the physical comes the emotional.”
“Sometimes I don’t move forward with things because I like the idea of what is possible with the idea and if I move forward with it, perhaps it’s not going to work out the way I wanted it.”
Favorite sayings:
“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.” (The Serenity Prayer)
“The health of the eye seems to demand a horizon. We are never tired, so long as we can see far enough.” - Emerson
Thank you for listening!
Please subscribe to support this project.
Love, Sagewolf xoxo
The scene:
We are in Ladera Heights, Los Angeles, CA on a warm day in Liv’s backyard sitting on lawn chairs drinking tea. This sounds like we live gentle lives; yesterday we fixed her garage door by lifting it together and also road motorcycles all over LA. This is our normal. Our friendship has weathered many journeys and many miles on motorcycles. Join us in the garden for curiosity, laughter, and pre-psychotherapy.
Highlights:
- A Swede from Alabama
- Difficulty making female friends
- Babes Ride Out
- Clicking together quickly and easefully
- Seeking adventures together
- Attacking the stressor immediately = non-procrastination
- Being in the world, being curious, being in action
- The importance of having purpose
- Currently in her Masters of Psych at Pepperdine
- Massaging is a lot of alone time with your own thoughts
- The body communicating different messages than the mind
- Rocking the body to see where the tension is holding on
- Being present with others
- Why do they scrub you wearing black granny panties at Korean spas?
- Near-death experiences that are hilarious
- Helping others transform their lives
- Weaving in experiences of acting, psychology, and massage
- Creating your life around physical freedom
- Seeing a wide horizon in your life
- Choosing newness to avoid stagnation
- Minimizing “making wrong”, blame, being fearful of the future
- Avoiding rejection by not proceeding
- Being 100% committed, AND detached from the outcome
- The Race to Alaska documentary
- The Women Riders World Relay
- Filming 12 women on motorcycles riding through Pakistan
- Transitioning from doing everything yourself to leaning into others
- Viewing your life as many projects
- Appreciation of others and listening
- “You lose intention when you lose punctuation.”
A taste:
“Through the physical comes the emotional.”
“Sometimes I don’t move forward with things because I like the idea of what is possible with the idea and if I move forward with it, perhaps it’s not going to work out the way I wanted it.”
Favorite sayings:
“God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, the courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference.” (The Serenity Prayer)
“The health of the eye seems to demand a horizon. We are never tired, so long as we can see far enough.” - Emerson
Thank you for listening!
Please subscribe to support this project.
Love, Sagewolf xoxo
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Aris Janigian: Author / Yogi / Book Collector / Potluck Hoster
The scene:
We are sitting in the sun on a chilly Spring day just outside Aris’ living space, which is attached to his private library of 1 billion books (actually 5,000 ish). Aris begins the interview a bit withdrawn, perhaps shy, perhaps melancholic - like any truly great writer is expected to be - but warms up throughout and by the end is truly lively. It has taken me a moment to return to editing and releasing interviews. I saw Aris in yoga the other day and we shared that we had such fond memories of what a great interview it was, it is. Join us as we explore the human condition and how it is captured with words.
Highlights:
- Bestselling author of “Waiting for Lipchitz at Chateau Marmont”
- Moved to Fresno from LA eight years ago
- Began writing in the 5th grade. First book: “The Adventures of Hallelujah Harry”
- What makes a “gifted” writer?
- Two novels by the age of 25
- Writing because you have to write...you have something to say
- Began writing regularly his junior year of college, as a medicine
- Using writing to harness a self-destructive energy
- Why publish? > ego, being noticed, being seen, vanity, loving people
- Wanting others to feel the richness of their internal life
- Helping others find themselves
- Connection is the root of many creative endeavors
- Suffering is a character trait that serves writers well
- Patience/a long view is important when writing one book over many years
- Maturing out of immediate gratification
- Tragic humor and satire
- Embracing one’s own madness, coupled with self-compassion
- “Essentially we’re scripting our own lives continuously”
- No one can define great art, it has a transcendent quality
- Relying on the judgement of others to measure you
- Trusting informed readers for feedback
- We would be nothing without the love of other people
- Community makes you feel at home in the world
- Observing others as they journey through the world
- Conflict > Friction > Fire > Life, warmth, light...
- Writing “aggressive”, “racist”, “sexist” books
- Uncomfortability creates an opportunity to elevate consciousness
- The world is not static, we must constantly revise our approach
- “One should be happy to be confronted with a genuinely authentic new perspective”
- Yearning to be confronted by someone with your own flaw or bias
- We identify too much with our own thoughts and opinions
- Trained as a scientist - PhD in Research Psychology, specifically Social Cognition
- Taught college psych for 23 years
- Research him on Google scholar for his papers on human studies
- Advice to younger self: “Get help sooner.” (meds, therapy, yoga/meditation)
- 19 year yogi
- Play more
- Grieving when you can’t write
- Longest writing “slump”: current, 1 1/2 years...
- Novel writing comes from a different place, it’s like a puzzle
A taste:
- “We view our selves as western expansion does, an American cultural egotism that creates dynamism.”
- “Most of our rhetoric, our language, is oriented towards youth.”
- “The novelist mind requires that you see everything when you write one sentence.”
Favorite saying:
(He can’t remember. Ask his friends for the notes they take of the funny things he says.)
Thank you for listening!
Please subscribe to support this project.
Love, Sagewolf xoxo
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Dr. Asia Rose Matthews, PhD: Mathematician / Mother / Recreational Pianist / Grower of Many Jade Plants
The Scene:
We are in Powell River, BC, Canada in Asia’s home, somewhere between the sewing machine in the living room and the Instapot in the kitchen. This interview required three different recordings to be spliced together, and another bajillion (technical math term) edits for its’ equation to sum up to its’ solution. (I probably misused those terms and it’s making Asia cringe :). She was born in a trailer in my driveway and became a female PhD Mathematician (pretty good odds). Join us for the way conversations go when you’re a family of four...plus one cousin.
Highlights:
- Quilting to teach students about math patterns
- Questioning everything - “to be a mathematician is to be skeptical”
- Scientific theories are falsifiable, mathematics is verifiable - “Truthiness”
- “Bajillion” is a technical term
- Equations are very little of theoretical math
- Equals is a very powerful operation
- Formulas are a description of a pattern
- Math is abstract, imaginary, creative and explores boundaries
- Being a Mathematician makes you a good communicator - you must convince others that what you say is true
- Mathematician in residence at an all-girls school in Victoria
- Mathematics Association of America Grant
- Crocheting hyperbolic surfaces
- Using your hands to understand what is happening
- Paper chains to understand Mobius strips
- The war between precision and wabi-sabi
- Consciously creating less structure
- The problem with North American Puritanical roots
- Seeking patterns and order as a child, loving algorithms
- Seeing that math needed to be taught differently
- When you’re afraid of being wrong, you can’t learn
- Teaching at a liberal arts college in Squamish - classes of no more than 20
- Being passionate about how math is communicated between people
- Exciting the non math-oriented
- Wanting to teach teachers in order to make the biggest difference
- Using the word “exponential” incorrectly
- Please don’t say “square the circle”
- Mathematics is “the best” science
- There is a strong connection between mind and heart
- The same trait helping professionally and harming personally
- Fast brains, spitballing through conversation
- We take on what we’re already good at (and forget to develop the rest)
- Putting yourself in unfamiliar situations to observe the reaction
- Adaptability and resilience
- Being curious and able to find joy in whatever you’re doing
- Mathematicians can get by with not great memory
- Forgetting how to be independent when you partner up
- Do you have to be any different than you are right now in order to be completely lovable?
- Do not say “1000 %” around mathematicians
- Square dancing with “the olds” (the perfect mathematical sport)
- Universal educational design
- Casually running a witch’s coven
- It is impossible to put yourself in someone else’s shoes
- We interact with the world based on the values we were taught
- Optimism in inclusively teaching different kinds of minds
- Cohabitation of ideas
- If time was linear...
- “Ah, interesting...”
- Anarchist math
- “Also: relax.”
A taste:
“I don’t quite believe that I’m worthy without having to prove it. I certainly can prove that I’m worthy, but I’m not sure I believe it without that proof."
Favorite line from a song:
“I was playing my guitar, lying underneath the stars, just thanking the lord for my fingers.” - Paul Simon
Thank you for listening!
Please subscribe to support this project.
Love, Sagewolf xoxo
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