
The Corporations Corrupting our Health | Calley & Casey Means Pt. I
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04/30/24 • 52 min
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EP. 196: Today we have part one of an eye-opening two-part series as I sit down with Calley and Casey Means to talk about the dark underbelly of the healthcare industry and its devastating impact on our metabolic health. Calley, an industry insider with political experience, exposes the corruption within the food industry, while his sister Casey, a disillusioned doctor turned co-founder of Levels, reveals the systemic flaws driving her away from medicine. Together, they uncover how healthcare, the fastest-growing industry, paradoxically leaves Americans sicker than ever, with 9 out of 10 leading causes of death linked to food. From the manipulation of media and politics to the insidious influence of big food, they dissect the intricate web of interests perpetuating our nation's health crisis. Tune in for an insightful discussion on metabolic dysfunction, policy roadblocks, and the urgent need for change.
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Topics Discussed
- 8:21 - The unsustainability of the current healthcare industry
- 12:55 - Corrupting influence of Big Food
- 16:38 - The silence of medical leaders & the impacts of cancel culture
- 21:08 - The troubling metabolic health statistics
- 28:53 - The biggest issues in our political and healthcare system
- 33:44 - Stagnant life expectancy & when to trust your doctor
- 40:16 - We’re poisoning our kids
- 42:51 - The overcomplication of nutritional science
- 47:01 - Big Pharma lobbying
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EP. 196: Today we have part one of an eye-opening two-part series as I sit down with Calley and Casey Means to talk about the dark underbelly of the healthcare industry and its devastating impact on our metabolic health. Calley, an industry insider with political experience, exposes the corruption within the food industry, while his sister Casey, a disillusioned doctor turned co-founder of Levels, reveals the systemic flaws driving her away from medicine. Together, they uncover how healthcare, the fastest-growing industry, paradoxically leaves Americans sicker than ever, with 9 out of 10 leading causes of death linked to food. From the manipulation of media and politics to the insidious influence of big food, they dissect the intricate web of interests perpetuating our nation's health crisis. Tune in for an insightful discussion on metabolic dysfunction, policy roadblocks, and the urgent need for change.
Check Out Their New Book Here!
Topics Discussed
- 8:21 - The unsustainability of the current healthcare industry
- 12:55 - Corrupting influence of Big Food
- 16:38 - The silence of medical leaders & the impacts of cancel culture
- 21:08 - The troubling metabolic health statistics
- 28:53 - The biggest issues in our political and healthcare system
- 33:44 - Stagnant life expectancy & when to trust your doctor
- 40:16 - We’re poisoning our kids
- 42:51 - The overcomplication of nutritional science
- 47:01 - Big Pharma lobbying
Check Out Calley Means
Check Out Casey Means
Sponsored By:
- Organifi
- www.organifi.com/realfoodology Code REALFOODOLOGY gets you 20% Off
- LMNT
- Get 8 FREE packs with any order at drinkLMNT.com/realfoodology
- Fresh Pressed Olive Oil
- Get a free $39 bottle at Getfresh324.com and only pay $1 shipping
- Our Place
- Use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off at fromourplace.com
- Timeline
- Go to timelinenutrition.com/REALFOODOLOGY and use code REALFOODOLOGY for 10% off
Check Out Courtney:
- LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
- Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
- @realfoodology
- www.realfoodology.com
- My Immune Supplement by 2x4
Produced By: Drake Peterson
Edited By: Mike Frey
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EP. 195: Join us for a thought-provoking journey into the world of natural medicine with Dr. Jeff Chen, founder of Radical Science. As an MD with a passion for exploring alternative treatments, Jeff discusses the critical need for scientific validation in natural medicine. We discuss the challenges of conducting trials, the influence of Big Pharma, and the complexities of FDA regulations. From the benefits of alternative models to the importance of informed decision-making, this episode challenges conventional notions of healthcare and will leave you feeling empowered and ready to take control of your wellness journey.
Topics Discussed
- 05:52 - Introduction to Jeff Chen and Radical Science
- 09:06 - Studies around natural medicine
- 13:14 - Finding volunteers for studies and trials
- 17:50 - Conflicts with Big Pharma studies
- 22:33 - Shortcomings of clinical trials
- 25:32 - Side effects of natural products
- 30:48 - Model of modern trials
- 41:04 - Reasoning behind lack of natural medicine studies
- 44:21 - FDA and compounds
- 47:59 - Patent expirations
- 49:49 - Allopathic vs Alternative models
- 55:08 - Jeff’s TED Talk
- 57:16 - Alternative models have less side effects
- 59:49 - Getting involved in trials
- 01:01:01 - Importance of doing your own research
- 01:09:52 - Jeff’s non-negotiables
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The Corporations Corrupting Our Health Pt. II | Calley + Casey Means
EP. 197: On this episode of the RealFoodology podcast, we’re back with power siblings Calley and Casey Means to continue our conversation on the healthcare industry and its devastating impact on our metabolic health. Today we’re talking about the hidden impacts of crop subsidization in the United States. From unraveling the true costs of these subsidies to exploring the systems that perpetuate our addiction to sugar, we’re covering it all. Join the conversation as we challenge the status quo, question scientific narratives, and advocate for accessible, nutritious food options. With insights on policy solutions, trusting your intuition, and reevaluating institutional norms, you’ll leave this episode feeling empowered to take control of your metabolic health.
Listen to #196: The Corporations Corrupting Our Health Pt. I | Calley + Casey Means
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Topics Discussed:
- 04:54 - The true costs of crop subsidization
- 10:24 - The various systems keeping us addicted to sugar
- 14:45 - Questioning the science
- 25:18 - There’s nothing extreme about eating healthy
- 30:08 - The Importance of Affordable Food
- 35:01 - Policy Solutions
- 38:20 - Trusting your intuition
- 45:14 - Questioning institutions
- 47:57 - Good Energy by Calley + Casey Means
- 49:57 - Healthcare nonnegotiables
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- LEAVE US A VOICE MESSAGE
- Check Out My new FREE Grocery Guide!
- @realfoodology
- www.realfoodology.com
- My Immune Supplement by 2x4
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Edited By: Mike Frey
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