
Real Talk Conversations: Who We Are
07/06/22 • 25 min
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Randy Rohde, the founder of 38 Digital Market. They discuss what it’s been like to run a law practice as partners. The conversation includes how their diverse skill set and respective approaches has created a strong foundation for their powerful partnership, how they challenged traditional law firm practices with their unique approach to business and the services they provide and the fundamental elements of being an effective lawyer and having a successful practice.
Show Notes:
- (00:55) How strengthening their business relationship has significantly impacted their ability to help students and their families with legal matters
- (02:36) Achieving growth and development through constructive conflict
- (03:38) Maintaining professionalism with mutual respect and trust in one another
- (04:29) How Title IX sparked the beginning of their business partnership and mission to help students and their families
- (06:21) The controversy of breaking law firm industry norms by equally sharing origination credits of their business
- (07:52) The beauty of applying a growth mindset to a complementary skill set
- (09:44) Title IX and research misconduct cases, and how their archetypal clientele has evolved throughout the years and pandemic.
- (12:10) Going beyond legal consultation with parental counseling for clients and how it’s helped their personal development
- (16:29) Why listening skills and establishing boundaries are rudimentary to becoming a successful lawyer for your clients
- (17:47) How the dynamics of their partnership in every case has proved to be advantageous for their clients time and again
- (23:03) The perfect time to hire a lawyer that yields the best possible outcome regardless of the type of case
Transcript:
Kristina Supler: Today, we're doing real talk conversations. We're joined by Randy Rohde of 38 Digital Market.
Susan Stone: You mean we're talking to each other. With Randy. Hi, Randy. yes.
Randy Rohde: Yes. You're talking to each other and I'm just kind of here along for the ride a little bit. So, thank you for inviting me and having me part of the team here today.
Randy Rohde: It really is an honor and you. Folks have done really some remarkable things. I think in what you do in your practice. I would love to hear a lot of that, but maybe to start as first. How about some background on the two of you?
Susan Stone: Thanks. It's so funny. You take for granted what you have every day in your life. And Kristine and I are really lucky that we formed this team to represent students and families with legal needs with regard to their education or some other crisis. And we take a team approach in every aspect of what we do, whether it's building our business or serving our clients.
Kristina Supler: What's always so interesting to me. And, and, and I know Susan shares the same perspective. People have this perception of us that we have this wonderful team and business we've built and a friendship as well, because we're as close outta the office as we appear to be in the office. But it's not something that's just always been there. I mean, over the years, we've really worked hard to get to know each other and figure out our likes, our interests our pain points, our weaknesses, and figure out how to grow with each other and really build a business together into what we both enjoy in a business that taps into not only helping people, but also that brings us fulfillment.
Susan Stone: I think that was really nicely put. Yeah.
Randy Rohde: Yeah. And I know from past conversations with the two of you that you also highly, I will say compliment each other on the differences of your either specialties or the way that you just were maybe better put to say your personalities and it enables you, I think maybe when you mix it all together, it's like an incredible team.
Susan Stone: Well, you know, I do wanna say that we were a lot more different 10 years ago.
Kristina Supler: Absolutely speaking for myself, a vastly different person, really.
Susan Stone: And we were different generations. We had different career goals and as time went on and really working through things, I would say now we're like an old, married couple in many ways where we can complete each other's sentences. But it's the differences that make us more powerful and in many ways.
Susan Stone: And sometimes I miss that time where it was so vastly different. Of course there's less clash, there's less conflict, but sometimes the growth was in the co...
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Randy Rohde, the founder of 38 Digital Market. They discuss what it’s been like to run a law practice as partners. The conversation includes how their diverse skill set and respective approaches has created a strong foundation for their powerful partnership, how they challenged traditional law firm practices with their unique approach to business and the services they provide and the fundamental elements of being an effective lawyer and having a successful practice.
Show Notes:
- (00:55) How strengthening their business relationship has significantly impacted their ability to help students and their families with legal matters
- (02:36) Achieving growth and development through constructive conflict
- (03:38) Maintaining professionalism with mutual respect and trust in one another
- (04:29) How Title IX sparked the beginning of their business partnership and mission to help students and their families
- (06:21) The controversy of breaking law firm industry norms by equally sharing origination credits of their business
- (07:52) The beauty of applying a growth mindset to a complementary skill set
- (09:44) Title IX and research misconduct cases, and how their archetypal clientele has evolved throughout the years and pandemic.
- (12:10) Going beyond legal consultation with parental counseling for clients and how it’s helped their personal development
- (16:29) Why listening skills and establishing boundaries are rudimentary to becoming a successful lawyer for your clients
- (17:47) How the dynamics of their partnership in every case has proved to be advantageous for their clients time and again
- (23:03) The perfect time to hire a lawyer that yields the best possible outcome regardless of the type of case
Transcript:
Kristina Supler: Today, we're doing real talk conversations. We're joined by Randy Rohde of 38 Digital Market.
Susan Stone: You mean we're talking to each other. With Randy. Hi, Randy. yes.
Randy Rohde: Yes. You're talking to each other and I'm just kind of here along for the ride a little bit. So, thank you for inviting me and having me part of the team here today.
Randy Rohde: It really is an honor and you. Folks have done really some remarkable things. I think in what you do in your practice. I would love to hear a lot of that, but maybe to start as first. How about some background on the two of you?
Susan Stone: Thanks. It's so funny. You take for granted what you have every day in your life. And Kristine and I are really lucky that we formed this team to represent students and families with legal needs with regard to their education or some other crisis. And we take a team approach in every aspect of what we do, whether it's building our business or serving our clients.
Kristina Supler: What's always so interesting to me. And, and, and I know Susan shares the same perspective. People have this perception of us that we have this wonderful team and business we've built and a friendship as well, because we're as close outta the office as we appear to be in the office. But it's not something that's just always been there. I mean, over the years, we've really worked hard to get to know each other and figure out our likes, our interests our pain points, our weaknesses, and figure out how to grow with each other and really build a business together into what we both enjoy in a business that taps into not only helping people, but also that brings us fulfillment.
Susan Stone: I think that was really nicely put. Yeah.
Randy Rohde: Yeah. And I know from past conversations with the two of you that you also highly, I will say compliment each other on the differences of your either specialties or the way that you just were maybe better put to say your personalities and it enables you, I think maybe when you mix it all together, it's like an incredible team.
Susan Stone: Well, you know, I do wanna say that we were a lot more different 10 years ago.
Kristina Supler: Absolutely speaking for myself, a vastly different person, really.
Susan Stone: And we were different generations. We had different career goals and as time went on and really working through things, I would say now we're like an old, married couple in many ways where we can complete each other's sentences. But it's the differences that make us more powerful and in many ways.
Susan Stone: And sometimes I miss that time where it was so vastly different. Of course there's less clash, there's less conflict, but sometimes the growth was in the co...
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Navigating the Tough Obstacles Around College Applications
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Davida Amkraut, a College Consultant. They discuss test optional and test free methods of the college application process. The conversation includes the advantages and disadvantages of test-optional and test blind college applications, the unspoken rules of navigating the obstacles of the college application process, and the best choices students can make to position themselves to build a stellar college application.
Links from this episode:
Davida Amkraut: https://dha-edconsulting.com
Davida’s Previous Interview: https://studentdefense.kjk.com/2020/06/18/real-talk-podcast-covid-19-the-college-search/
Show Notes:
- The drastic change on the college admission process caused by the pandemic (01:11)
- Test optional versus test free: 2 terms that every American college applicant needs to know (02:12)
- Why some colleges are reinstating test scores in their admission process, while the UC system and the Cal State system are maintaining test free admission to address discrepancy (03:31)
- Using the Common Data Set tool to determine whether or not you should submit your SAT scores to the college or university that you’re applying for. (05:04)
- An unofficial list of universities that actually rely heavily on test scores of applicants (06:08)
- Why it is recommended for applicants to still take the ACT and SATs even if it’s only the online simulation (08:22)
- When you should take the ACT over the SATs (08:56)
- Why taking the SATs is better for those who aren’t confident in science (09:34)
- Digital SATs and why the college board is favoring this change as opposed to the paper and pen version (10:15)
- Controversy surrounding the shift to a digital SAT from the traditional testing (11:15)
- How students who opt for test free when applying to college fare among applicants who disclose their test scores (12:42)
- Why Advanced Placement (AP) classes are generally more advantageous than International Baccalaureate (IB) classes for college applicants (13:26)
- How meaningful extracurricular activities like sports can give your application a boost (14:26)
- Passion and authenticity are essential to becoming well-rounded students (16:42)
Kristina Supler: Today's topic is the changing landscape with regard to standardized testing. We're here with Davida Amkraut who works with students on all aspects of the college application process. And for our listeners, you probably recognize Davida. She's been a guest before on Real Talk with Susan and Kristina.
Kristina Supler: Davida, we're so pleased to have you back today
Susan Stone: and you know what Davida, since you've moved, it's really fun seeing you on screen. We've really missed having you. So welcome back to our podcast.
Davida Amkraut: Thank you so much for having me again. It's a pleasure to be here.
Susan Stone: There's been a lot of changes with regard to the SAT and ACT. Can you get our listeners up to date? What are the hot issues and changes? And Just helpful tips that our listeners need to know for the, would it be rising juniors that really should pay attention or rising? Seniors or both.
Davida Amkraut: I would say both. And I say that since the pandemic, there has been huge shifts in the college admission process, largely because a huge population of the students were unable to test safely for their application season. Which led to many, many schools going test optional for the years following the pandemic. And that trend, some thought was going to be temporary.
Davida Amkraut: And that, as soon as that, it was safe enough to test, test centers would open and colleges would revert back to their testing policies and things would just continue as normal. What we're seeing in the college admission world is that in fact, many schools are keeping that test optional.
Kristina Supler: Let me interrupt you.
Kristina Supler: I apologize. But just for our listeners who are just new to the college journey with their children. Explain what it means for being test optional.
Susan Stone: Good question.
Davida Amkraut: Okay. So there are actually two different terms that our American applicants should know. The first one is test optional, which means that the student has the option to have their test scores considered. That means that they are able to include them in their application. If they...
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What College Women Need to Know About Sexual Health and STI's
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Dr. Lauren Streicher, a Clinical Professor of Obstetrics and Gynecology at Northwestern University’s medical school, and the founder and medical director of the Northwestern Medicine Center for Menopause and the Northwestern Medicine Center for Sexual Health. They discuss sexual and reproductive health in college kids. The conversation includes prevention, infection and maintenance of Sexually Transmitted Infections (STI’s), the myths behind contraceptives and how they actually benefit women, and how to empower women with education about sex, reproductive and gynecological health, and sexual pleasure.
Links:
- Dr Lauren Streicher's Website (Click here)
- Inside Information: the Menopause Podcast (Click here)
Show Notes:
- (00:38) How we crossed paths with Dr. Streicher and her amazing accomplishments to date
- (02:01) The irony between hot flashes and college
- (02:46) The surge of sexually transmitted diseases and infections...a.k.a. College
- (03:31) What measure should every mom and their child take to prevent contraction of STI’s known to cause certain types of cancer?
- (06:11) A scary new trend of how college students have fallen victim to STI’s
- (07:19) How this makeshift form of protection that is often ridiculed can allow women to safely enjoy oral sex...well for 15 seconds
- (08:10) Unraveling the mysteries of a female condom– yes, you read that correctly.
- (09:10) Saran wrap belongs in the kitchen, not on your lady parts
- (09:52) The real solution to safe oral sex for women (that’s FDA-approved)
- (11:50) How $6 can save you from a potentially life-long sexually transmitted infection
- (12:34) Why not all sexually transmitted infections can be treated with just creams or at all
- (13:28) The best safety measure you can take to prevent a permanent battle with HPV
- (13:40) Unfortunately, there is no catch-all screening test for sexually transmitted diseases
- (15:37) Common misconceptions about emergency contraception
- (17:31) The scientific explanation of pregnancy and fertilization
- (18:40) A non-pill form of emergency contraception
- (19:10) The ancient alternative to Plan B pills
- (19:50) An over-the-counter, essential component of your child’s college first-aid kit
- (21:14) News flash: You can still get pregnant after taking Plan B
- (21:42) Alternative forms of contraception with higher efficacies
- (22:36) The dwindling existence of access to safe abortions for unplanned pregnancies; 50% from failed contraception
- (23:52) A lesser known benefit of IUDs
- (24:20) Busting the myth that contraceptives like birth control pills lead to infertility in women; they actually protect it
- (25:44) The effect of marijuana on reproductive health in both men and women
- (26:52) Why in the end, money matters more than health; the explanation behind the lack of scientific studies on the effects of marijuana to a female’s reproductive health
- (27:53) What is the most prevalent gynecological health issue facing women in their early twenties today?
- (28:20) An online resource young women can utilize for sex education and pleasure; basically everything our mothers didn’t talk to us about
- (29:08) Female sexual pleasure and why it should not be overlooked
- (31:30) Sex should never hurt period.
- (34:56) The sex talk that every mother should have with their daughter before sending them off to college
Kristina Supler: Today we are so pleased to be joined by Dr. Lauren Streicher. Who's a clinical professor of obstetrics and gynecology at Northwestern University's Medical School. Dr. Streicher's also the medical director of the Northwestern Medicine Center for Menopause and the Northwestern Medicine Center for Sexual Medicine.
Susan Stone: I just have to say, we are really excited. We worked with Dr. Streicher on a case where she gave us some gynecological expertise. There was an issue and we got to know her and it's an amazing colleague to have. She just released a book. Her recent books are Slip, Sliding Away, Turning Back the Clock on Your Vagina and Hot Flash Hell, a Gynecological Guide to Turning Down the Heat.
Susan Stone: And as a woman in her fifties, I can tell you that's important...
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