
Every Parent's Worst Nightmare: Your Son Indicted for Rape
06/08/22 • 31 min
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by a parent who we will refer to as “Jane Doe,” who had to experience watching her son face prosecution for rape and kidnapping. And after a long and agonizing trial, her son was found not guilty by a jury after only 15 minutes of deliberation. The conversation includes how a fling turned into a criminal charge and years of distress, the realistic, negative impact of false accusations on victims and their families, and prevention and coping mechanisms for a defendant and their families during prosecution.
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Show Notes:
- How a casual relationship spiraled out of control (01:38)
- How the truth became overshadowed by the school, parents, the accuser, the police, and the justice system (03:07)
- The result of a criminal charge, indictment, 2 trials, and years of agony (03:38)
- Why parents need to discuss the dangers of hookup culture with their children (04:30)
- The role hookup and cancel culture has played in her son’s false rape accusation (06:22)
- The agony of witnessing your child’s life stop and become turned over to the justice system (07:46)
- The lack of support from the school administration and the impact this had on the child’s siblings at the same school (09:51)
- A remarkable turn of events: how good acquaintances turned into the best support system one could ask for (10:27)
- How one student’s false accusation instilled a fear on the entire student body (11:35)
- Navigating the unknown world of the justice system as a terrified parent (13:25)
- The living purgatory of waiting for a second trial (16:36)
- Juggling college and preparing for a new trial (17:27)
- The necessity and precautions of seeking external support to cope with the stress of an ongoing trial (18:44)
- What it’s really like for a family to deal with the tension of a trial (20:53)
- How Jane found solace in her community and other mothers going through what her family was experiencing (23:15)
- Finding some closure through filing and settling a defamation and malicious prosecution lawsuit after acquittal (26:50)
Transcript:
Kristina Supler: Today's episode is the epitome of real talk. We're joined by a parent who will refer to as Jane Doe.
Kristina Supler: Jane sadly had to live through the experience of watching her son face prosecution for rape and kidnapping. And after a long trial, agonizing, her son was found not guilty by a jury after only 15 minutes of deliberation.
Kristina Supler: And I'm sure those 15 minutes were the longest 15 minutes of her life. Jane has graciously agreed to talk to us today about her experience.
Susan Stone: And we thank you, Jane for coming today. And, Christina, we deal every day in our practice with not just students going through title nine process, but sadly, we have had a lot of interplay between the national title nine process and the criminal justice system.
Susan Stone: And we privately have conversations and this is the first time. On our podcast, where we have had a parent tell their story. So thank you for coming. And our first question would be without revealing identities, because we want to be sensitive to your privacy and that of your child. But can you briefly describe Jane what the allegations were that were lodged against your son?
Susan Stone: Tell your story.
Jane Doe: I I'd be happy to. And thank you so much for inviting me here today. It's an honor to talk about this, uh, process because of what our family has been through. Um, shortly after he graduated high school, my son was accused of rape and kidnapping by a girl with whom he had a casual relationship.
Jane Doe: They had had an interaction at a party, and again, they were known to each other, but they had interacted at a party and shortly after their interaction was over, she accused him of rape. And, uh, as I say at that moment, the train left the station. And from there. She reported the incident to her parents who then of course, as any parent would do took action, not knowing.
Jane Doe: Any facts, of course, but just what their daughter had told them. And they took action. She went through the process of going to the hospital and a number of events that occurred when you do that, when you make an accusation and from there forward, It just felt like a bomb dropped and there was no, no control over what was going to happen from there.
Jane Doe: And I inte...
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by a parent who we will refer to as “Jane Doe,” who had to experience watching her son face prosecution for rape and kidnapping. And after a long and agonizing trial, her son was found not guilty by a jury after only 15 minutes of deliberation. The conversation includes how a fling turned into a criminal charge and years of distress, the realistic, negative impact of false accusations on victims and their families, and prevention and coping mechanisms for a defendant and their families during prosecution.
Links:
Show Notes:
- How a casual relationship spiraled out of control (01:38)
- How the truth became overshadowed by the school, parents, the accuser, the police, and the justice system (03:07)
- The result of a criminal charge, indictment, 2 trials, and years of agony (03:38)
- Why parents need to discuss the dangers of hookup culture with their children (04:30)
- The role hookup and cancel culture has played in her son’s false rape accusation (06:22)
- The agony of witnessing your child’s life stop and become turned over to the justice system (07:46)
- The lack of support from the school administration and the impact this had on the child’s siblings at the same school (09:51)
- A remarkable turn of events: how good acquaintances turned into the best support system one could ask for (10:27)
- How one student’s false accusation instilled a fear on the entire student body (11:35)
- Navigating the unknown world of the justice system as a terrified parent (13:25)
- The living purgatory of waiting for a second trial (16:36)
- Juggling college and preparing for a new trial (17:27)
- The necessity and precautions of seeking external support to cope with the stress of an ongoing trial (18:44)
- What it’s really like for a family to deal with the tension of a trial (20:53)
- How Jane found solace in her community and other mothers going through what her family was experiencing (23:15)
- Finding some closure through filing and settling a defamation and malicious prosecution lawsuit after acquittal (26:50)
Transcript:
Kristina Supler: Today's episode is the epitome of real talk. We're joined by a parent who will refer to as Jane Doe.
Kristina Supler: Jane sadly had to live through the experience of watching her son face prosecution for rape and kidnapping. And after a long trial, agonizing, her son was found not guilty by a jury after only 15 minutes of deliberation.
Kristina Supler: And I'm sure those 15 minutes were the longest 15 minutes of her life. Jane has graciously agreed to talk to us today about her experience.
Susan Stone: And we thank you, Jane for coming today. And, Christina, we deal every day in our practice with not just students going through title nine process, but sadly, we have had a lot of interplay between the national title nine process and the criminal justice system.
Susan Stone: And we privately have conversations and this is the first time. On our podcast, where we have had a parent tell their story. So thank you for coming. And our first question would be without revealing identities, because we want to be sensitive to your privacy and that of your child. But can you briefly describe Jane what the allegations were that were lodged against your son?
Susan Stone: Tell your story.
Jane Doe: I I'd be happy to. And thank you so much for inviting me here today. It's an honor to talk about this, uh, process because of what our family has been through. Um, shortly after he graduated high school, my son was accused of rape and kidnapping by a girl with whom he had a casual relationship.
Jane Doe: They had had an interaction at a party, and again, they were known to each other, but they had interacted at a party and shortly after their interaction was over, she accused him of rape. And, uh, as I say at that moment, the train left the station. And from there. She reported the incident to her parents who then of course, as any parent would do took action, not knowing.
Jane Doe: Any facts, of course, but just what their daughter had told them. And they took action. She went through the process of going to the hospital and a number of events that occurred when you do that, when you make an accusation and from there forward, It just felt like a bomb dropped and there was no, no control over what was going to happen from there.
Jane Doe: And I inte...
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The Ultimate Gift for Any College Student
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Dr. Jill Grimes, a family physician, award-winning author, and media medical expert. They discuss medical issues that college students face while they're away from home. The conversation includes practical tips that college students actually want to hear about, prevention and coping with anxiety and other mental health issues at the collegiate level, and alcohol consumption and marijuana addiction myths and misconceptions.
Links Mentioned:
- Book: Ultimate College Student Health Handbook
- Student Defense: studentdefense.kjk.com
Show Notes:
- The experiences that snowballed Dr. Grimes’ prowess in the medical field, namely for college students (0:36)
- The essential components of a practical first aid kit for a college student (2:03)
- How to encourage college students to practice safe oral sex (04:08)
- Oral herpes and the means it can be spread, among other sexually transmitted infections (05:34)
- Why Dr. Grimes wrote a book to spread awareness of sexually transmitted diseases (06:45)
- The distinction between traditional therapy and Cognitive Behavior Therapy (CBT) (09:06)
- Pragmatic alternatives to alleviating mental health concerns in spite of limited access to campus health centers (12:29)
- How this non-addictive drug can help manage anxiety in college students (14:08)
- Collegiate study skills courses as a means of decreasing test anxiety altogether(16:54)
- Breaking the stigma that only students who are struggling academically need tutoring (18:17)
- A first-hand tip from college professors that every parent can easily do to help their child succeed (19:01)
- An ace tip to creating an efficient study group (19:45)
- Addiction and medicinal marijuana use to cope with anxiety (21:15)
- The potentially harmful contents of marijuana (21:54)
- A dangerous misconception of marijuana use and coping with mental health issues (23:13)
- What parents and students need to know about blackout drinking and the role it plays in sexual harassment (26:55)
- The “proper” alcohol consumption method as advised by a licensed physician to prevent blackout drinking (29:14)
- Additional medical issues students faced at the onset of COVID (31:21)
- Future topics to be included in the Ultimate College Student Health Handbook; from how to create a safe environment in the event of a seizure, diabetes, and navigating the healthcare system in college (32:11)
Transcript:
Susan Stone: Welcome back to Real Talk with Susan Stone and Kristina Supler. We're full-time moms and attorneys bringing our student defense legal practice to real life with real candid conversations.
Susan Stone: Today's topic is medical issues that college students face while they're away from home. We're pleased to be joined by Dr. Jill Grimes, author of the Ultimate College Student Health Handbook. Your guide to everything from hangovers to homesickness.
Kristina Supler: Dr. Grimes is a board certified family physician with a passion for practical evidence-based advice for students of all ages. After spending over 20 years in private practice in Austin, Texas, Dr. Grimes transitioned to a campus health center and through her work with college students on a daily basis, she's really come to understand the most common medical issues that college students experience. And this experience has in part contributed to. Dr. Grimes writing over six books.
Kristina Supler: Dr. Grimes, we're so pleased to have you with us today. Welcome.
Dr. Jill Grimes: Thanks so much for having me. I'm delighted to be here.
Susan Stone: I have to tell you, I devoured your book in a day. And I think we were chatting Kristina while we were working on the sound and all this administrative stuff. And I was saying it made me re-go go back to my daughter and say, Do you wipe from front to back?
Kristina Supler: The dreaded UTI problem.
Kristina Supler: Also was so...
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Navigating the Tough Obstacles Around College Applications
In this episode of Real Talk, KJK Student Defense Attorneys Susan Stone and Kristina Supler are joined by Davida Amkraut, a College Consultant. They discuss test optional and test free methods of the college application process. The conversation includes the advantages and disadvantages of test-optional and test blind college applications, the unspoken rules of navigating the obstacles of the college application process, and the best choices students can make to position themselves to build a stellar college application.
Links from this episode:
Davida Amkraut: https://dha-edconsulting.com
Davida’s Previous Interview: https://studentdefense.kjk.com/2020/06/18/real-talk-podcast-covid-19-the-college-search/
Show Notes:
- The drastic change on the college admission process caused by the pandemic (01:11)
- Test optional versus test free: 2 terms that every American college applicant needs to know (02:12)
- Why some colleges are reinstating test scores in their admission process, while the UC system and the Cal State system are maintaining test free admission to address discrepancy (03:31)
- Using the Common Data Set tool to determine whether or not you should submit your SAT scores to the college or university that you’re applying for. (05:04)
- An unofficial list of universities that actually rely heavily on test scores of applicants (06:08)
- Why it is recommended for applicants to still take the ACT and SATs even if it’s only the online simulation (08:22)
- When you should take the ACT over the SATs (08:56)
- Why taking the SATs is better for those who aren’t confident in science (09:34)
- Digital SATs and why the college board is favoring this change as opposed to the paper and pen version (10:15)
- Controversy surrounding the shift to a digital SAT from the traditional testing (11:15)
- How students who opt for test free when applying to college fare among applicants who disclose their test scores (12:42)
- Why Advanced Placement (AP) classes are generally more advantageous than International Baccalaureate (IB) classes for college applicants (13:26)
- How meaningful extracurricular activities like sports can give your application a boost (14:26)
- Passion and authenticity are essential to becoming well-rounded students (16:42)
Kristina Supler: Today's topic is the changing landscape with regard to standardized testing. We're here with Davida Amkraut who works with students on all aspects of the college application process. And for our listeners, you probably recognize Davida. She's been a guest before on Real Talk with Susan and Kristina.
Kristina Supler: Davida, we're so pleased to have you back today
Susan Stone: and you know what Davida, since you've moved, it's really fun seeing you on screen. We've really missed having you. So welcome back to our podcast.
Davida Amkraut: Thank you so much for having me again. It's a pleasure to be here.
Susan Stone: There's been a lot of changes with regard to the SAT and ACT. Can you get our listeners up to date? What are the hot issues and changes? And Just helpful tips that our listeners need to know for the, would it be rising juniors that really should pay attention or rising? Seniors or both.
Davida Amkraut: I would say both. And I say that since the pandemic, there has been huge shifts in the college admission process, largely because a huge population of the students were unable to test safely for their application season. Which led to many, many schools going test optional for the years following the pandemic. And that trend, some thought was going to be temporary.
Davida Amkraut: And that, as soon as that, it was safe enough to test, test centers would open and colleges would revert back to their testing policies and things would just continue as normal. What we're seeing in the college admission world is that in fact, many schools are keeping that test optional.
Kristina Supler: Let me interrupt you.
Kristina Supler: I apologize. But just for our listeners who are just new to the college journey with their children. Explain what it means for being test optional.
Susan Stone: Good question.
Davida Amkraut: Okay. So there are actually two different terms that our American applicants should know. The first one is test optional, which means that the student has the option to have their test scores considered. That means that they are able to include them in their application. If they...
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