
Ep. 10: Wanna Go To A Joint Party?
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07/24/24 • 60 min
The fact that we've made it to episode 10 is sort of miraculous. Like a stage diver, you don't have to want it, but it's happening.
We're talking about contractor management—or, as Ron calls it, "cross-boundary joint activity." Ron talks about agents and stuff like that, not even in the context of Agent Orange, which is probably a better conversation.
Ok, what we're really looking at is some of the mismatch between why we hire contractors to begin with. How do we reduce friction between clients and contractors? Is it about the alignment of goals? Dave says it's mostly the client's problem since there's a power dynamic, so maybe that's why inflatable rafts at concerts are important.
Like a "glory hole" of sorts, there are perspectives from both sides of the boundary.
Want to check out Agent Orange? You're welcome: https://youtu.be/4SHIEKeubCM
Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.
https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/
Let us know what you think at [email protected] or on our LinkedIn page.
Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com
The fact that we've made it to episode 10 is sort of miraculous. Like a stage diver, you don't have to want it, but it's happening.
We're talking about contractor management—or, as Ron calls it, "cross-boundary joint activity." Ron talks about agents and stuff like that, not even in the context of Agent Orange, which is probably a better conversation.
Ok, what we're really looking at is some of the mismatch between why we hire contractors to begin with. How do we reduce friction between clients and contractors? Is it about the alignment of goals? Dave says it's mostly the client's problem since there's a power dynamic, so maybe that's why inflatable rafts at concerts are important.
Like a "glory hole" of sorts, there are perspectives from both sides of the boundary.
Want to check out Agent Orange? You're welcome: https://youtu.be/4SHIEKeubCM
Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.
https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/
Let us know what you think at [email protected] or on our LinkedIn page.
Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com
Previous Episode

Ep. 9: Ron Goes to College
By the time this episode comes out, Ron will have defended his doctoral dissertation, a whole lot like Milo from The Descendents did. Except Ron is cooler.
We're talking about investigations in this episode. What are they for? Ron thinks they're a little different than Dave and Ben do, but the consensus from the boys is that a lot of the espoused values of investigating don't make it into practice. Is it a process of creating closure or are we just dumb?
There's some leftover conversation after returning from CHOL, but mostly, we talk about the competing goals and outcomes from investigations of events/incidents/accidents.
What you look for is mostly what you find. So, if you've looked for this podcast, then you've found it, and you only have yourself to blame.
Here's a link to Milo Goes to College. It's a great record.
Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.
https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/
Let us know what you think at [email protected] or on our LinkedIn page.
Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com
Next Episode

Ep. 11: People Suck
Snake eyes, MFers!
It's episode 11, and with a minute of prep or so, we settled on figuring out if people really are the solution to things, especially safety things.
Toxic Narcotic has a song called "People Suck"
I mean, sometimes, people are assholes, right? Or dumb? Or aren't they? Sometimes some moron tries to smash a can of triple-expanding foam with a forklift.
We don't really think people suck, to be clear. We humans are actually pretty cool. But maybe we're not the only cool thing or the only solution to problems.
Toxic Narcotic, People Suck - the video is here
Oh, and give your money to Punk Rock Saves Lives. They're a rad organization that works in mental health, addiction, and human rights. And they're awesome people who can use your help to keep on kicking ass at what they do.
https://www.punkrocksaveslives.org/
Let us know what you think at [email protected] or on our LinkedIn page.
Merch at punkrocksafetymerch.com
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