
🔥 Roasting a Popular Tech YouTuber's Podcast (Leveraging Reputation, Status Games, Leaning Into Tension, Positioning & Differentiation)
03/15/24 • 41 min
"It takes a lifetime to build a good reputation, but you can lose it in a minute."
Today, we're putting the idea to the test.
Because in our latest podcast roast, we're featuring a brand new show featuring two veteran, highly successful, much beloved creators who are teaming up for the first time.
In theory, Stephen Robles and Jason Aten, hosts of Primary Technology should have it all figured out.
Stephen, after all, is the much beloved former host of the Apple Insider podcast, while Jason is an experienced tech writer for Inc. Magazine.
But theory doesn't always translate into reality.
And what got you here, doesn't always get you there.
Given the pedigree, my expectations going into this roast were high.
And while there's a lot to learn from what Stephen & Jason are doing right with the show...
There's one major oversight with their packaging that is likely costing them dearly.
And it's a mistake they're far from alone in making.
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Topics Covered
0:00 Intro
00:29 Introduction to Primary Technology
00:48 First impressions of the show packaging
02:12 Dissecting the cover art and title
05:25 The power of leveraging your reputation as a host
08:41 Breaking down episode titles and descriptions
20:19 Understanding genre conventions
21:00 How to use listener surveys to create better content & titles
22:01 Topic-based shows and listener engagement
23:26 How to create great custom episode art
30:10 The real value of creating a show trailer
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"It takes a lifetime to build a good reputation, but you can lose it in a minute."
Today, we're putting the idea to the test.
Because in our latest podcast roast, we're featuring a brand new show featuring two veteran, highly successful, much beloved creators who are teaming up for the first time.
In theory, Stephen Robles and Jason Aten, hosts of Primary Technology should have it all figured out.
Stephen, after all, is the much beloved former host of the Apple Insider podcast, while Jason is an experienced tech writer for Inc. Magazine.
But theory doesn't always translate into reality.
And what got you here, doesn't always get you there.
Given the pedigree, my expectations going into this roast were high.
And while there's a lot to learn from what Stephen & Jason are doing right with the show...
There's one major oversight with their packaging that is likely costing them dearly.
And it's a mistake they're far from alone in making.
📊 What did you think of this episode? Click to cast your vote:
🤩 Nailed It!🙂 Solid🥱 Meh
😒 Do better
Topics Covered
0:00 Intro
00:29 Introduction to Primary Technology
00:48 First impressions of the show packaging
02:12 Dissecting the cover art and title
05:25 The power of leveraging your reputation as a host
08:41 Breaking down episode titles and descriptions
20:19 Understanding genre conventions
21:00 How to use listener surveys to create better content & titles
22:01 Topic-based shows and listener engagement
23:26 How to create great custom episode art
30:10 The real value of creating a show trailer
⭐️ Get a free podcast marketing audit with personalized recommendations to help you grow: https://podcastmarketingacademy.com/audit ⭐️
Resources
Check out the Podcast Marketing Trends 2023 Report
Subscribe to the Scrappy Podcasting Newsletter
Try Transistor.fm for free for 14 days
✍️ Leave us a voicemail with feedback (or unadulterated praise): https://podline.fm/trends
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02:09 How much the average podcast spends on production & marketing
05:21 How much high-growth shows allocate to marketing
06:51 How we’d spend $500/month to grow
14:03 How we’d spend $2,500/mo to grow
24:11 How to figure out what brought people to your show
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31:14 Understanding your brand values
38:23 Running retargetting ads to your podcast
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Producing a regular podcast is one of the most grueling, time-intensive forms of content creation in existence.
But what if 80% of the time you’re currently spending on your show isn’t actually contributing to growth?
In other words, what if you could get the same results while spending drastically less time on your show?
Or, what if you were to redirect that time towards higher leverage activities that actually did move the needle for growth?
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02:13 Breaking Down the Numbers: Data on high-growth show time spends
08:39 What stood out from the categories of growth in the data?
11:19 Where to spend time when you’re first starting your show
19:18 Finding opportunities to improve your show in your daily life
20:48 Where to spend your time once your show has traction
29:00 Time-sucking tasks to ignore or eliminate
40:21 The ultimate amplifier of every hour you spend on your show
42:37 How much time are you spending on your show each week?
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Podcast Marketing Trends Explained: Data-Driven Podcast Growth Strategies - 🔥 Roasting a Popular Tech YouTuber's Podcast (Leveraging Reputation, Status Games, Leaning Into Tension, Positioning & Differentiation)
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Your trailer is the most compelling pitch for your show. It's actually the thing you should spend a lot of time on. If this one minute version of the show is not compelling, it probably means the rest of the show is not compelling.
JeremyMessaging and copywriting is hard. But by virtue of me sitting down and creating this, now every time I'm talking about the podcast online, in person, at a conference, I
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