
The Fear of Visibility with Jennifer Ogunyemi
08/23/22 • 49 min
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Have you ever shied away from the spotlight, thinking it might help your business rather than hurt it?
Black women and visibly Muslim women have to decide how they want to show up for their businesses — all while navigating the complex expectations and stereotypes that come along with their identities.
My guest is Jennifer Ogunyemi, the founder of Sisters in Business, an organisation that's dedicated to inspiring, connecting, and elevating Muslim women.
Jennifer is a mentor to countless Muslim women. But before her business took off, she struggled with how to show up visibly in her business.
In fact, while her business was taking off, no one knew that a black woman was behind it – which meant she missed on opportunities and the chance to get recognitionfor her hard work. Now, she encourages Muslim women to show up for themselves.
Find the transcript of this episode on my site, emancopyco.com/podcast.
Links from this episode:
- Join Like a Boss, my 12-week mastermind for copywriters
- Jennifer on IG: @sisters.in.business
- Sisters in Business
- Eman’s Email Rules
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Have you ever shied away from the spotlight, thinking it might help your business rather than hurt it?
Black women and visibly Muslim women have to decide how they want to show up for their businesses — all while navigating the complex expectations and stereotypes that come along with their identities.
My guest is Jennifer Ogunyemi, the founder of Sisters in Business, an organisation that's dedicated to inspiring, connecting, and elevating Muslim women.
Jennifer is a mentor to countless Muslim women. But before her business took off, she struggled with how to show up visibly in her business.
In fact, while her business was taking off, no one knew that a black woman was behind it – which meant she missed on opportunities and the chance to get recognitionfor her hard work. Now, she encourages Muslim women to show up for themselves.
Find the transcript of this episode on my site, emancopyco.com/podcast.
Links from this episode:
- Join Like a Boss, my 12-week mastermind for copywriters
- Jennifer on IG: @sisters.in.business
- Sisters in Business
- Eman’s Email Rules
If you loved this episode, take a screenshot, post it on Instagram and tell everyone you know that this is the podcast to listen to. Don’t forget to tag me! @emancopyco
And if you’re interested in working with me, visit emancopyco.com/contact.
Loving the podcast?
- Support the show and leave a rating or review here: https://ratethispodcast.com/mistakes
- Get the BTS scoop on how this podcast is made in this bonus episode: https://emancopyco.com/bts
Work with Eman Copy Co. to power up your email strategy, your launches, and your revenue
- Fill in the enquiry form on this contact page: https://emancopyco.com/contact/
Want to learn with me?
- Take Eman’s “What’s Your Perfect Newsletter Style?” quiz: https://www.emancopyco.com/quiz
- Check out my courses and masterclasses: https://emancopyco.com/learn-with-me/
Say hi 👋🏽
- Connect with Eman on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emancopyco/
- Connect with Eman on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eman-i307/
Tools for your business: (Affiliate links 👇🏽)
Start your 14-day trial with ConvertKit: https://emancopyco.com/kit
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Find the transcript of this episode on my site, emancopyco.com/podcast.
Links from this episode:
- Join Like a Boss, my 12-week mastermind for copywriters
- Belinda Weaver
- Hot Copy podcast
- Get The Email Rules: Eman's FREE 35-minute email class
If you loved this episode, take a screenshot, post it on Instagram and tell everyone you know that this is the podcast to listen to. Don’t forget to tag me! @emancopyco.
And if you’re interested in working with me, visit emancopyco.com/contact.
Loving the podcast?
- Support the show and leave a rating or review here: https://ratethispodcast.com/mistakes
- Get the BTS scoop on how this podcast is made in this bonus episode: https://emancopyco.com/bts
Work with Eman Copy Co. to power up your email strategy, your launches, and your revenue
- Fill in the enquiry form on this contact page: https://emancopyco.com/contact/
Want to learn with me?
- Take Eman’s “What’s Your Perfect Newsletter Style?” quiz: https://www.emancopyco.com/quiz
- Check out my courses and masterclasses: https://emancopyco.com/learn-with-me/
Say hi 👋🏽
- Connect with Eman on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emancopyco/
- Connect with Eman on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eman-i307/
Tools for your business: (Affiliate links 👇🏽)
Start your 14-day trial with ConvertKit: https://emancopyco.com/kit
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Find the transcript of this episode on my site, emancopyco.com/podcast.
Links from this episode:
- Join Like a Boss, my 12-week mastermind for copywriters
- Claire Pelletreau’s website
- Claire Pelletreau on Instagram: @clairepells
- Claire’s podcast: The Get Paid Podcast
- Eman’s Email Rules
If you loved this episode, take a screenshot, post it on Instagram and tell everyone you know that this is the podcast to listen to. Don’t forget to tag me! @emancopyco.
And if you’re interested in working with me, visit emancopyco.com/contact
Loving the podcast?
- Support the show and leave a rating or review here: https://ratethispodcast.com/mistakes
- Get the BTS scoop on how this podcast is made in this bonus episode: https://emancopyco.com/bts
Work with Eman Copy Co. to power up your email strategy, your launches, and your revenue
- Fill in the enquiry form on this contact page: https://emancopyco.com/contact/
Want to learn with me?
- Take Eman’s “What’s Your Perfect Newsletter Style?” quiz: https://www.emancopyco.com/quiz
- Check out my courses and masterclasses: https://emancopyco.com/learn-with-me/
Say hi 👋🏽
- Connect with Eman on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/emancopyco/
- Connect with Eman on Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/eman-i307/
Tools for your business: (Affiliate links 👇🏽)
Start your 14-day trial with ConvertKit: https://emancopyco.com/kit
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