Beyond the Honeymoon Phase

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01/27/25 • 39 min

Mindfully Masculine: Personal Growth and Mental Health for Men

Welcome to this insightful episode of the Mindfully Masculine Podcast, where Charles and Dan explore relationship dynamics through the lens of "The Man’s Guide to Women" by Drs. John and Julie Gottman. This episode is packed with discussions on love, commitment, and personal growth.

Key Topics Discussed:

Understanding Commitment:
- Debunking the myth of "the one."
- Biological and psychological factors influencing attraction.
- Challenges in identifying healthy versus unhealthy relationship dynamics.
Stages of Love:
- Limerence: The initial, chemical-driven phase of love.
- Trust: Building confidence in your partner and aligning values.
- Loyalty and Commitment: Developing a deep, lasting bond.
Relationship Growth and Self-Improvement:
- Navigating the pitfalls of past trauma and unhealthy relationship patterns.
- The importance of therapy, support groups, and self-reflection in making better partner choices.
- Why compatibility in handling conflict and emotional expression matters more than shared hobbies.
Cultural and Practical Insights:
- Perspectives on arranged marriages and their approach to compatibility.
- The value of prenuptial agreements and forward-thinking financial planning.
Red Flags and Relationship Risks:
- Avoiding impulsive decisions during the limerence stage.
- Recognizing and recalibrating a "broken picker" for healthier relationships.
Actionable Advice for Men:
- Setting boundaries and principles before entering a relationship.
- Balancing emotions with logic when making life-altering decisions.

Memorable Quotes:

"You should want to feel butterflies, not lightning bolts." – Dr. Drew (quoted by Charles)
"The person you're marrying is not the person you're divorcing." – Reflecting on the necessity of prenuptial agreements.
"A relationship should be the icing on the cake, not the cake itself."

Resources Mentioned:

"The Man’s Guide to Women" by Drs. John and Julie Gottman
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Website: Mindfully Masculine
Social Media: Follow us for updates, discussions, and more relationship insights.

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Key Topics Discussed:

Understanding Commitment:
- Debunking the myth of "the one."
- Biological and psychological factors influencing attraction.
- Challenges in identifying healthy versus unhealthy relationship dynamics.
Stages of Love:
- Limerence: The initial, chemical-driven phase of love.
- Trust: Building confidence in your partner and aligning values.
- Loyalty and Commitment: Developing a deep, lasting bond.
Relationship Growth and Self-Improvement:
- Navigating the pitfalls of past trauma and unhealthy relationship patterns.
- The importance of therapy, support groups, and self-reflection in making better partner choices.
- Why compatibility in handling conflict and emotional expression matters more than shared hobbies.
Cultural and Practical Insights:
- Perspectives on arranged marriages and their approach to compatibility.
- The value of prenuptial agreements and forward-thinking financial planning.
Red Flags and Relationship Risks:
- Avoiding impulsive decisions during the limerence stage.
- Recognizing and recalibrating a "broken picker" for healthier relationships.
Actionable Advice for Men:
- Setting boundaries and principles before entering a relationship.
- Balancing emotions with logic when making life-altering decisions.

Memorable Quotes:

"You should want to feel butterflies, not lightning bolts." – Dr. Drew (quoted by Charles)
"The person you're marrying is not the person you're divorcing." – Reflecting on the necessity of prenuptial agreements.
"A relationship should be the icing on the cake, not the cake itself."

Resources Mentioned:

"The Man’s Guide to Women" by Drs. John and Julie Gottman
Explore more episodes at mindfullymasculine.com

Connect with Us:

Website: Mindfully Masculine
Social Media: Follow us for updates, discussions, and more relationship insights.

Support the show

Previous Episode

Why Her Friendships Could Be The Key To Your Happiness Together

Welcome to another thought-provoking episode of Mindfully Masculine! In this episode, Charles and Dan dive into Chapter 12, Best Friends Forever, from The Man's Guide to Women by Dr. John Gottman and colleagues. This chapter explores the fascinating dynamics of friendships and their impact on relationships.

Key Discussion Points:

Gender Differences in Friendships: Discover how men's and women's friendships differ and why these differences matter in romantic relationships.
The Role of Social Connections: Learn how a woman’s friendships can positively influence her health and emotional well-being—and why this benefits her relationship with you.
Marriage vs. Cohabitation: Insights into the studies on how marital and cohabitation dynamics affect longevity and health.
Balancing Emotional Support: Tips for avoiding the extremes of emotional dependence or isolation in your relationship.
Correlation vs. Causation: A nuanced discussion about healthy habits and whether marriage itself increases longevity.
Encouraging Friendships: Why supporting your partner’s friendships is essential—and how to handle concerns about her male friends.

Notable Insights:

A strong social network for both partners leads to better emotional regulation and a healthier relationship.
Men often rely heavily on their romantic partner for social support, while women diversify their support system through friendships.
Fostering mutual respect and open communication is key when navigating concerns about friendships.

Practical Takeaways:

Encourage your partner’s friendships, especially if she feels unfulfilled in that area.
Build your own social network to avoid overburdening your relationship.
Use your partner’s feedback to improve your interactions with her social circle—strive to be someone they root for!

Resources Mentioned:

The Man’s Guide to Women by Dr. John Gottman and colleagues
Diary of a CEO podcast (episode on dopamine)
Huberman Lab Podcast with Jordan Peterson (discussion on motivation)

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Tags: #MindfullyMasculine #Relationships #Friendships #EmotionalSupport #GenderDynamics #Marriage #PersonalGrowth

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Are You Competing with a Baby?

Is your relationship struggling after the arrival of a baby? Do you feel like you've been pushed aside by your partner’s new role as a mother? In this episode, Charles and Dan break down the challenges men face when children enter a romantic relationship—whether you're a new dad, dating a single mom, or just trying to understand how priorities shift in family dynamics.
Drawing insights from The Man’s Guide to Women by Dr. John Gottman, the hosts explore:
✔️ Why it’s normal to feel neglected when a baby arrives
✔️ How a man's role in parenting impacts child development
✔️ The dangers of competing with children for attention
✔️ Why active listening and emotional support are crucial
✔️ Practical strategies to keep romance alive in fatherhood
💡 Whether you're a dad, a stepdad, or dating someone with kids, this episode will help you navigate the shift from partner to parent while maintaining a fulfilling relationship.
Key Takeaways from This Episode
🔹 Understand Biological Shifts: When kids enter the picture, a mother’s priorities naturally change. Recognizing this can prevent resentment.
🔹 Avoid Toxic Competition: Acting out for attention—whether through withdrawal or passive-aggressive behavior—only harms relationships.
🔹 Step Up, Don’t Step Back: Being emotionally and physically present as a father figure leads to better outcomes for kids.
🔹 Keep the Romance Alive: Thoughtful planning and intentional effort can help your partner transition between mom-mode and relationship-mode.
🔹 Communicate Like a Pro: Before venting frustrations to your partner, talk to a trusted friend, therapist, or mentor to refine your thoughts.
Resources Mentioned
📖 The Man’s Guide to Women by Dr. John Gottman
🎥 12 Angry Men (1957) – A surprising lesson on fatherhood
👥 Therapy & Men’s Groups – The importance of external support
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Mindfully Masculine: Personal Growth and Mental Health for Men - Beyond the Honeymoon Phase

Transcript

Charles00:00:00.341

I've noticed in myself and in my friends you and others that like , hey , sometimes you're with that girl because your picker's broken , Because everything in you and your unconscious was telling you this is a great choice , this is exactly who you should be with , and you're just wrong because of

Charles00:00:18.010

a whole lot of reasons .

Dan