
Ovaries, Frontal Lobes & the Power of Your Notes App
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01/23/25 • 63 min
In the animal kingdom, when an animals main purpose has been fulfilled, that animal typically dies off.
A dark way to start an episode, but ultimately we got to thinking about why women live longer than men, even though one of their main purposes is to create offspring. Grandmothers play in maintaining family wisdom and legacy across generations - turns out there’s some science behind that and that’s where our conversation with Kirsten Hatcher from Raising Marriage starts. Don’t worry, this episode is full of laughs, we even tackle the whole one ovary per cycle conversation.
Today’s conversation started from a podcast a few weeks ago we talked about using our Notes app to fully form our feelings in our reactions. Navigating the stormy seas of relationships can be challenging, understanding, even preserving your own emotions while holding space for another person’s isn’t always easy. And so - we are back on the iceberg - the "anger iceberg". Drawing from Gottman's marriage counseling method, we share strategies to avoid emotional flooding and maintain rational communication. Through relatable personal anecdotes, learn how to pause and walk away, or channeling your emotions with a little chat gpt support can help refine your message and release resentment.
And of course, we’re having this conversation with a dear friend, so we trip, stumble, and fall into a few very personal conversations. But ultimately our guess is that each is very relatable. Tell you what - there’s nothing quite like personal therapy on a public forum. Repeat after us, “we listen and we don’t judge” ...
Things we discussed:
Book: Fast Like A Girl
Book: Men Are Like Waffles - Women Are Like Spaghetti
The Anger Iceberg
Publix Philly Cheesesteak Dip
Attachment Styles
For more mayhem, be sure to follow us:
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YouTube @MarketingMayhemPod
And don't forget to leave us a 5 star review! Or message us to deep dive into your topic or just give us feedback!
Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
In the animal kingdom, when an animals main purpose has been fulfilled, that animal typically dies off.
A dark way to start an episode, but ultimately we got to thinking about why women live longer than men, even though one of their main purposes is to create offspring. Grandmothers play in maintaining family wisdom and legacy across generations - turns out there’s some science behind that and that’s where our conversation with Kirsten Hatcher from Raising Marriage starts. Don’t worry, this episode is full of laughs, we even tackle the whole one ovary per cycle conversation.
Today’s conversation started from a podcast a few weeks ago we talked about using our Notes app to fully form our feelings in our reactions. Navigating the stormy seas of relationships can be challenging, understanding, even preserving your own emotions while holding space for another person’s isn’t always easy. And so - we are back on the iceberg - the "anger iceberg". Drawing from Gottman's marriage counseling method, we share strategies to avoid emotional flooding and maintain rational communication. Through relatable personal anecdotes, learn how to pause and walk away, or channeling your emotions with a little chat gpt support can help refine your message and release resentment.
And of course, we’re having this conversation with a dear friend, so we trip, stumble, and fall into a few very personal conversations. But ultimately our guess is that each is very relatable. Tell you what - there’s nothing quite like personal therapy on a public forum. Repeat after us, “we listen and we don’t judge” ...
Things we discussed:
Book: Fast Like A Girl
Book: Men Are Like Waffles - Women Are Like Spaghetti
The Anger Iceberg
Publix Philly Cheesesteak Dip
Attachment Styles
For more mayhem, be sure to follow us:
Insta @marketingandmayhem
YouTube @MarketingMayhemPod
And don't forget to leave us a 5 star review! Or message us to deep dive into your topic or just give us feedback!
Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
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For more mayhem, be sure to follow us:
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And don't forget to leave us a 5 star review! Or message us to deep dive into your topic or just give us feedback!
Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
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Tubbing, Drunk Dialing & People Pleasing with Christina Smalley, Licensed Family Therapist
You’ve heard of the “everything shower” - but have you heard of the “good girl shower”? Bet not. Quick trip to Costco is in store for after this recording because it sounds like we all need the new bamboo shower chair.
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For more mayhem, be sure to follow us:
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YouTube @MarketingMayhemPod
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Hosted by @raebecca.miller and @jennyfromthe843
Marketing & Mayhem - Ovaries, Frontal Lobes & the Power of Your Notes App
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Hello .
Speaker 3Good morning , hi , kirsten . Hello , we got Kirsten Hatcher back in the house .
Speaker 1I'm so excited we chat with the gals . I get to actually join in this time rather than just in my car at the gym .
Speaker 3Listen , though , because you're a li
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