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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis

Making Coffee with Lucia Solis

Lucia

A behind the scenes look at what goes into making one of the world's favorite beverages. Lucia is a former winemaker turned coffee processing specialist. She consults with coffee growers and producers all over the world giving her a unique perspective into the what it takes to get a coffee from a seed to your cup.

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #4: Over Fermentation and Brettanomyces

#4: Over Fermentation and Brettanomyces

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10/28/19 • 21 min

I find the term "over fermentation" to be especially annoying. From a biology point of view this term is nonsense.
When coffee professionals use this term it's understood to mean a defect, usually vinegar, "boozy" or like rotting fruit. Everyone agrees that it's a negative trait for a coffee to have. I think it's important to be able to identify this trait but I think this label has held fermentation back and made many (producers and roasters alike) shy away from a process that when controlled can enhance coffee quality.
In this week's episode I answer a listener question about double fermentation and Brettanomyces that gives me an opportunity to untangle the concept from the name we've given it.
"Double fermentation" is another common colloquial phrase mistaken for a scientific label.
It gives the impression that there are two fermentations, but this is not what's happening biologically.
I also talk about the Russian River Brewing Company in Windsor California. I visited earlier this year in July and got to see how they use Brettanomyces and try their Brett Beer. The coffee industry is borrowing from the Beer industry as well as the wine industry and beer yeasts are becoming more popular in mills across Central America. This is an exciting time for coffee microbiology but there are a few cautions I want to give about this particular yeast.
For the visually inclined: I have 3 videos that will breakdown the coffee fermentation process:
https://www.luxia.coffee/instructional-videos

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #44: Are Wine Making Techniques the Future of Coffee?
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06/03/22 • 65 min

Next time you set about making your morning coffee, take a moment to peruse the info on your bag of beans. What do you notice? The variety of beans? Flavor notes? Technical details on where the coffee was grown?

They're not so different from the sort of blurb you might find on the back of a wine bottle in many ways. And that’s intentional. Specialty coffee has taken a lot from the world of wine.

But could the increasing overlaps be a problem for coffee farmers — or even dangerous?

In this episode, Scott and Jools join forces with coffee processing specialist and former winemaker Lucia Solis from the Making Coffee podcast to dive deeper into where our coffee comes from and what (if anything) wine's got to do with it.

Lucia talks to coffee producer Karla Boza from the Finca San Antonio Amatepec coffee farm in El Salvador and vintner Todd Kohn from the Wayfarer Vineyard in California to shed some light on the techniques behind picking, transporting and processing their precious produce.

Take a sip on this (soon-to-be-a-good) vintage episode to pique your curiosity about how coffee and wine are made, and why it matters.

Follow Karla Boza’s farm and Todd’s winery on Instagram

Tag our Instagram handles:

James Harper / Filter Stories

Jools Walker / Lady Velo

Scott Bentley / Caffeine Magazine

James' Podcasts

History of Coffee (do not miss this series!)

Adventures in Coffee

Filter Stories (producer oriented stories)

Fifth Wave (for the economics nerd)

Bellwether New Wave Coffee (cafe focused)

SCA Competitions

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #42: Germination & Processing–Wet/Washed vs. Dry/Natural
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03/28/22 • 42 min

In this episode we talk about:

  • The long geographical chain of custody for a cup of coffee
  • Why do wet process and dry process coffees taste differently
  • Coffee seeds: orthodox vs. recalcitrant seed
  • The yeast metabolism case for quality vs the plant metabolism case for quality
  • Cacao seed germination vs coffee seed germination

Support the show on Patreon to join our live Discord hangouts.

And if you don't want to commit, show your support here with a one time contribution: PayPal
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BUY GREEN COFFEE FROM HONDURAS

Cayro Coffee
RESEARCH PAPERS
S-E Knopp, G Bytoff, D Selmar, Influence of processing on the content of sugars in green Arabica coffee beans, European Food Research and Technology 2005 223(2):195-201 DOI:10.1007/s00217-005-0172-1
D Selmar, G Bytof, S-E Knopp, B Breitenstein,Germination of coffee seeds and its significance for coffee quality, Plant Biol (Stuttg) 2006 Mar;8(2):260-4. DOI: 10.1055/s-2006-923845.
Ludlow CL, Cromie GA, Garmendia-Torres C, Sirr A, Hays M, Field C, Jeffery EW, Fay JC, Dudley AM. Independent Origins of Yeast Associated with Coffee and Cacao Fermentation. Curr Biol. 2016 Apr 4;26(7):965-71. doi: 10.1016/j.cub.2016.02.012.

Cover Art by: Nick Hafner
Intro song: Elijah Bisbee

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #7: Coffee Travel: Helping or Hurting?

#7: Coffee Travel: Helping or Hurting?

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11/18/19 • 15 min

I’m writing this from a hotel in the small town of Ataco, El Salvador. I’ve been away from home for 21 days out what will eventually be 120.

It’s currently coffee harvest time in Central America this is the time of the year when I am traveling the most seeing clients at their mills and designing fermentation lots.

This is an interesting industry because of the amount of travel required by many parties along the chain (farmers, producers, exporter, importers, roasters and cafes). All of these entities are usually located in different countries with different languages, time zones, cultures and customs. These far apart business need to work together and the best way to have a smooth business is to have strong relationships. The best way I can think of to have strong relationships is to travel and sit with each other face to face and get to know the other's culture.

Unfortunately flying is a huge contributor of carbon emissions.

I’ve struggled with the paradox since I started traveling heavily in 2014.

At home, I am committed to reducing my environmental impact, I don’t have a car, I buy bulk foods in my own reusable containers, I compost all my food waste, Ive reduced my meat consumptions and I’ve stopped purchasing new clothes. Yet the amount of flying I do every year eclipses all the other efforts.

Previous years I spent November to March alternating one week in Central America and one week at home. Sometimes even seeing 3 clients in 1 month and only being home for a handful of days.

In addition to the environmental strain, there was a personal strain as well. That pace was difficult because It kept me constantly on the move and in airports, I was never home long enough to feel refreshed.

There was a moment I felt like I might need to quit working in coffee because the travel was too demanding.

To reduce my travel, this year I’m trying something different. Instead of going back and forth between Central America and the United States, I will stay in Central America all 4 months. My flying is dramatically reduced but not eliminated. Having such a dramatic carbon footprint is not in alignment with how I live the rest of my life, so I’m still working on how to reconcile that.

Join me for today’s episode for more on this paradox and a harvest update.

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #25: A California Coffee Farm & Native vs. Local Yeasts
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10/06/20 • 50 min

This week I want to talk to you about where native coffee yeast come from. If you are concerned about coffee flavor manipulation by yeast, I hope by the end of the episode you have a broader understanding of where "native" yeast originally came from.
To help illustrate the point, we start with non traditional coffee growing regions like Southern California.
In the episode I will also be sharing research from Dr. Amiee Dudley.

I met Dr. Aimee Dudley in 2017 during SCA EXPO in Seattle when we were on a Re:CO Panel together talking about yeast. I was offering the perspective of practical application of yeast, how coffee producers in situ could use it and Dr. Dudley was presenting her research on yeast genetics. She runs a lab at Pacific North West Research Institute and she is an expert on yeast genetics.
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Cover Art by: Nick Hafner
Into song: Elijah Bisbee
Mentioned in the Episode:

The Coffee Podcast: Jay Ruskey
Frinj Coffee
Dr. Aimee Dudley's Research Lab

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #43: Germination & Drying–Continuous vs. Resting
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04/14/22 • 47 min

In this episode we talk about:

  • The class system in Colombia
  • Specialty coffee shops in coffee producing countries
  • Extended fermentations, 500 hours
  • Germination of dry processed coffees, what is going on?
  • Overview of the role of amino acids
  • How do we measure stress in coffee cherries?
  • Stressed grapes vs stressed coffee cherries

Support the show on Patreon to join our live Discord hangouts.

And if you don't want to commit, show your support here with a one time contribution: PayPal
Sign up for the newsletter for behind the scenes pictures.
Ukraine Resources:
Ukraine Donations

Rituales
Distrito Cafetero
Pergamino
Desarolladores De Cafe

Stratification of ColombiaSocial Class in ColombiaWorld Bank Statistics on Colombia

RESEARCH PAPERS

G. Bytof, SE Knopp, D Kramer, B Breitenstein, JH Bergervoet, SP Groot, D Selmar. Transient occurrence of seed germination processes during coffee post-harvest treatment. Ann Bot. 2007 Jul;100(1):61-6. DOI: 10.1093/aob/mcm068. Epub 2007 May 3.

D. Kramer, B. Breitenstein, M Kleinwächter, D Selmar. Stress metabolism in green coffee beans (Coffea arabica L.): expression of dehydrins and accumulation of GABA during drying. Plant Cell Physiol. 2010 Apr;51(4):546-53. DOI: 10.1093/pcp/pcq019. Epub 2010 Mar 5.

Cover Art by: Nick Hafner
Intro song: Elijah Bisbee

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #8: "Empowerment": The New Colonialism Trap

#8: "Empowerment": The New Colonialism Trap

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11/25/19 • 18 min

I want to start by thanking everyone who has reached out to me and sent questions/comments or just let me know that you enjoy listening. I started this podcast as my offering to chip away at the knowledge gap between coffee producers and consumers
In today’s podcast episode we’re going to hear from 2 sides of the value chain in very different parts of the world. Brendan from Semilla Roasters in Canada gives the roaster perspective and later in the episode we hear from Vivek, a 4th generation coffee producer in India. He asks for advice because he’s unsure where to start. Can he learn to be a good cupper without having a Q grader license?
To me, the gap is an issue because it determines power dynamics. The simple issue is:
Producers who don’t cup their coffee don't have the power to improve their coffee.
It’s an obvious statement but one that is frequently overlooked because it’s been the standard. Producers often rely on external parties to tell them this vital information. The buyer who is able to cup the coffees is the one who can determine the value.
This alone is bad enough but I’ve seen it lead to a new disturbing trend.

Since the buyers are generally more knowledgeable about the coffee’s quality and since they cup more than producers do, they are uniquely in a position to tell producers how to improve or change their coffee.

Regardless of the good intentions, the buyer is dictating terms, the buyers is still the expert, the buyer has more knowledge, the buyer has more power.

And I couldn’t leave this topic without talking about the word “empower

I was guilty of using this word to describe my work. It used to be part of my mission statement to “empower producers with unconventional practices”. I had that written on my profile and website.
But as I discuss in this episode, that word now makes me feel uncomfortable and I’ve removed it from my website and avoid using it.
After listening to today's episode, I hope you’ll consider avoiding it also.
Resources Mentioned in this episode:
All Beans Considered: http://allbeansconsidered.com/
Coffee Quality Institute: https://www.coffeeinstitute.org/
Luxia Presentations: https://www.luxia.coffee/instructional-videos

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #14: George Howell on Cup of Excellence, Coffee Pricing and Craftsmanship
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03/11/20 • 53 min

Join me in listening to this conversation with George Howell, where we cover topics such as Cup of Excellence, coffee pricing, processing styles, craftsmanship, additives in processing, kamikaze farmers, and much more.
George was awarded the Lifetime Achievement award from the SCA in 1996, even before he helped found the Cup of Excellence program in 1999. He's accomplished a lot towards improving coffee quality and educating consumers on several fronts. What I admire most is that he continues to be an advocate for quality. He's been in the industry 46 years and I was surprised to learn that he continues to travel to maintain his relationships with coffee producers, and visits Antigua every year.
Even though George has had a longer career in coffee than me, and we approach coffee from different points of view and with different backgrounds, I was surprised to learn how much we have in common regarding coffee processing.
Thanks for listening!

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #5: To Be or Not To Be A Q-Grader

#5: To Be or Not To Be A Q-Grader

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11/04/19 • 24 min

What is a Q Grader?
In the coffee industry the Q Grader license is often compared to the sommelier exam in wine—this is a shorthand that can be useful to provide some vague ballpark approximation, but over the next 2 podcast episodes we will see how different these tests are.
When I started to get serious about working in the coffee industry I was looking for ways to deepen my knowledge and the Q Grader license seemed like a good place to start. If I wanted to use fermentation techniques to improve coffee quality I would need to learn what the industry considered to be high quality.
Because how can we agree on what is coffee quality, without speaking the same sensory language?
To move the conversation of quality forward, I needed to differentiate between preference (coffees people like) and quality (agreed upon criteria that are independent of preference).
I have definitely scored high quality coffees that were not in my preferred flavor profile—conversely just liking a coffee is not enough to qualify it as a good coffee. It needs to meet quality standards of acidity, structure, body, sweetness and balance. I believe it is important to be able to put our personal preferences in context when evaluating a coffee.
Join me on today's episode as I share my experience with the Q Grader license.
To take a sensory class from Alexandre Schmitt: https://www.wineandflavors.com/en/
Maybe we can revive the hashtag: #letcoffeebecoffee

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Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #39:Infused vs Adulterated coffees, Cinnamon and Fermentation Failures
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09/15/21 • 57 min

As many of you know, we've started doing live hang out after the episodes on Discord a week after the podcast comes out. I find this valuable because I get to hear from listeners and we create our own podcast after the podcast together.

In the most recent gathering I had Felipe, Jose and Lucas from Ep 38 on the discussion so listeners of the podcast could ask them questions directly.
A few things stuck out to me from that conversation that I want to share here because what started as a fun hang out turned out to provide a key insight for coffee producers.

In this episode we talk about:

  • Tank Additions: Mango, lemons, cinnamon
  • Wine additions: sugar and acid
  • Transparency: what does it mean and who benefits
  • Enzymes vs Microbes like yeast and bacteria
  • How fermentation is like gravity

Support the show on Patreon to join our live Discord hangouts.

And if you don't want to commit, show your support here with a one time contribution: PayPal
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Resources:
Bean Scene Article
Gravity Explained at 5 difficulty Levels

Cover Art by: Nick Hafner
Intro song: Elijah Bisbee

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How many episodes does Making Coffee with Lucia Solis have?

Making Coffee with Lucia Solis currently has 69 episodes available.

What topics does Making Coffee with Lucia Solis cover?

The podcast is about Coffee, Brewing, Farm, Microbiology, Podcasts, Wine, Education, Science, Arts, Travel and Food.

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The episode title '#4: Over Fermentation and Brettanomyces' is the most popular.

What is the average episode length on Making Coffee with Lucia Solis?

The average episode length on Making Coffee with Lucia Solis is 47 minutes.

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Episodes of Making Coffee with Lucia Solis are typically released every 19 days, 14 hours.

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The first episode of Making Coffee with Lucia Solis was released on Sep 25, 2019.

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