
#68: Fermentation vs. Germination: A Look at The Seed From The Inside, Out
12/03/24 • 36 min
I have wanted to make this episode for a long time, but I wasn't sure how to make it work. Finally some research for Dr. Flavio Borem helped crack the topic for me and the result is today's new episode.
Things we discuss on this episode:
- Washed processed that tastes like a natural
- Process-forward coffees, funky coffee
- Neutral processing
- The need for speed, & gentle drying
- Drying is not just removing water
- Biggest producer mistakes, not upgrading the drying
- Fallacy of terroir
I have wanted to make this episode for a long time, but I wasn't sure how to make it work. Finally some research for Dr. Flavio Borem helped crack the topic for me and the result is today's new episode.
Things we discuss on this episode:
- Washed processed that tastes like a natural
- Process-forward coffees, funky coffee
- Neutral processing
- The need for speed, & gentle drying
- Drying is not just removing water
- Biggest producer mistakes, not upgrading the drying
- Fallacy of terroir
Previous Episode

#67: Addressing Climate Collapse & Coffee Labor in Brazil with Ana Luiza of Fazenda Mió
In this episode we talk about:
- How Ana decided to join the family business after pursuing a career in art.
- The advantages and drawback of growing coffee in a "Full Sun" system.
- The future of coffee picking and the role of Mechanical Harvesters.
- Brazil's 6 different biomes.
- How technology helped Brazil jump from 6 coffee bags/hectare in 1960 to 29 bags/hectare in 2023
- How climate change has affected the crop
- How Precision Agriculture is helping the farm use resources efficiently
- Tattoos!
Resources
Ana's Precision Agriculture Presentation on Coffee Knowledge Hub (you will need to make an account but it's free!)
Anacafe Presentation on Price Volatility (by Albert Scalla in Spanish)
Picture of Mechanical Harvester
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#69: Whole Coffee Cherry Fermentations—The Multiple Paradoxes of Naturals
This episode is a final harvest update and the behind the scenes of performing whole cherry fermentation with various microbes in an attempt to create a Dry Process/Natural coffee that I want to drink.
Resources:
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Cover Art by: Nick Hafner
Into song: Elijah Bisbee
Making Coffee with Lucia Solis - #68: Fermentation vs. Germination: A Look at The Seed From The Inside, Out
Transcript
Hello, friends. And welcome to a new episode of Making Coffee. This is episode 68. As I record this, it is December. Nick and I are preparing to host the next cohort of FTCs and begin a new harvest, which is wild because a coffee from the last harvest has only just arrived in the United States. Shipping from Guatemala to the United States shouldn't normally take this long, but there were some unexpected shipping delays, so it's taken almost a year fo
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