
Grappling with Beauty & Objectification // with Valerie Monroe and Debbie Saroufim
03/16/23 • 28 min
What woman hasn’t disliked part of her face at some point? My nose is too big. I don’t like my profile. My forehead is too big. I wish my lips were fuller.
Val Monroe, former beauty editor for O, The Oprah Magazine and writer of the popular Substack newsletter How Not to F*ck Up Your Face, and Body Relationship Coach Debbie Saroufim, chat with host Carmelita Tiu about grappling with beauty standards, objectification, and how we can shift our perspectives as our bodies and faces change through our lives.
We cover:
- What objectification means
- Mirror meditation - what it is, why it works
- The roots of beauty standards and our dissatisfaction
- Sitting with discomfort
- Feeling beautiful vs. being beautiful
Today's Guests
To learn more about Debbie Saroufim, visit www.bodyrelationship.com and follow her on Instagram @bodyrelationship_coach. And check out her Parents Guide, for what NOT to say to your kids if you want them to have a health relationship with their bodies.
Want to feel happier about your appearance—especially as you age—you might like reading more about what Val has to say about it. Subscribe for free to How Not to F*ck Up Your Face at valeriemonroe.substack.com. You can find her on Instagram at @thisisvalmonroe.
About Your Host, Carmelita / Cat / Millie Tiu
Mom, spouse, coach, podcaster, wordsmith, legal eagle. Endlessly curious about how we can show up better for ourselves – because when we do that, we also show up better for our kids and those around us. Visit carmelitatiu.com to learn more about Cat, and for info on 1:1 coaching, the mom collective, and her monthly newsletter.
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What woman hasn’t disliked part of her face at some point? My nose is too big. I don’t like my profile. My forehead is too big. I wish my lips were fuller.
Val Monroe, former beauty editor for O, The Oprah Magazine and writer of the popular Substack newsletter How Not to F*ck Up Your Face, and Body Relationship Coach Debbie Saroufim, chat with host Carmelita Tiu about grappling with beauty standards, objectification, and how we can shift our perspectives as our bodies and faces change through our lives.
We cover:
- What objectification means
- Mirror meditation - what it is, why it works
- The roots of beauty standards and our dissatisfaction
- Sitting with discomfort
- Feeling beautiful vs. being beautiful
Today's Guests
To learn more about Debbie Saroufim, visit www.bodyrelationship.com and follow her on Instagram @bodyrelationship_coach. And check out her Parents Guide, for what NOT to say to your kids if you want them to have a health relationship with their bodies.
Want to feel happier about your appearance—especially as you age—you might like reading more about what Val has to say about it. Subscribe for free to How Not to F*ck Up Your Face at valeriemonroe.substack.com. You can find her on Instagram at @thisisvalmonroe.
About Your Host, Carmelita / Cat / Millie Tiu
Mom, spouse, coach, podcaster, wordsmith, legal eagle. Endlessly curious about how we can show up better for ourselves – because when we do that, we also show up better for our kids and those around us. Visit carmelitatiu.com to learn more about Cat, and for info on 1:1 coaching, the mom collective, and her monthly newsletter.
Know Them, Be Them, Raise Them
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In this episode of Know Them, Be Them, Raise Them, Annie Warshaw, co-founder of Mission Propelle and a gender justice professor at Roosevelt University, unpacks gender equity in her chat with host Carmelita Tiu.
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- Helps us reframe our beliefs about old-school etiquette so we can foster more equitable gender roles
- Talks about the importance of having a list of shared family values
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- for equity consulting and coaching, visit missionpropelle.com, or follow @mission_propelle on Instagram
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How to Navigate & Challenge Beauty Standards // with Val Monroe & Debbie Saroufim
Val Monroe, former beauty editor for O, The Oprah Magazine and writer of the popular Substack newsletter How Not to F*ck Up Your Face, and Body Relationship Coach Debbie Saroufim, chat with host Carmelita Tiu about how to navigate beauty culture.
We cover:
- The importance of diversifying what you see and media literacy
- The myth of “figuring it out” and having it all together
- Normalizing making informed choices
- Social media - the good, the bad, and how much time Debbie spends on it ;)
- The duality of our emotions - you can feel dislike something and that doesn't mean it needs change
- Awesome parting thought from Val about what real beauty is
To learn more about Debbie Saroufim, visit www.bodyrelationship.com , and follow her on Instagram @bodyrelationship_coach. And check out her Parents Guide, for what NOT to say to your kids if you want them to have a health relationship with their bodies.
Want to feel happier about your appearance—especially as you age—you might like reading more about what Val has to say about it. Subscribe for free to How Not to F*ck Up Your Face at valeriemonroe.substack.com.
About Your Host, Carmelita / Cat / Millie Tiu
Mom, spouse, coach, podcaster, wordsmith, legal eagle. Endlessly curious about how we can show up better for ourselves – because when we do that, we also show up better for our kids and those around us. Visit carmelitatiu.com to learn more about Cat, and for info on 1:1 coaching, the mom collective, and her monthly newsletter.
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