23. Using Fat as Fuel & Keto Diets for World Class Athletes | Peter Defty

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02/21/18 • 99 min

Can fat be used as a fuel in world class athletic performance? How can you use science to yield actual results in sports while sifting through intellectual dishonesty and confirmation bias in nutrition studies? This hard hitting and extremely powerful podcast grounded in realism with what actually works while not being stuck in dogmatic thinking.

Bio: Peter promotes fat adapted training and takes science and makes it happen. He’s a triathlete and ultra-endurance coach of coaches for more than 2 decades and coached world class athletes such as Zach Bitter, Timothy Olson and many more. He also works with scientists like Dr. Stephen Phinney & Dr. Jeff Volek who published the FASTER Study (FASTER=Fat-Adapted-Substrate oxidation in-Trained-Elite-Runners) in 2013.

Time Stamps:

0:20 – Energy Pod Updates

9:07 – Using fat as fuel, FASTER study and work with Dr. Stephen Phinney

21:12 – Vespa & Bioactive Peptides

24:35 – Intellectual dishonesty in sports nutrition and supplement companies

31:18 – The China study, debunking nutrition science & the disparity between science and actual results

36:54 – Nutritional balance, carnivory, ruminant agriculture and why eating less is more

43:09 – Confirmation bias in science and its impact on science

45:40 – Relevant studies in sports nutrition

47:01 – Why “Recovery” is a misunderstood buzz word

48:04 – Low Carb vs. High Carb endurance sports

50:08 – Surgical use of carbs in optimizing performance and fat metabolism

54:53 – Ketogains pre-workout protocol

58:06 – Life of primitive man, eating correct and nutritional deficiencies

1:04:09 – Failure of Bulletproof coffee and metabolic efficiency

1:08:16 – Plants are born in ketosis!

1:09:50 – Preferred sources of fats for the body and hierarchy of fat storage

1:12:26 – Fasted or non-fasted before ultraendurance event?

1:15:52 – Electrolyte management and hydration while performing in different weather and seasons

1:21:16 – Affect of fat adaptation on physiology and thermal regulation

1:25:07 – Improvements in motor skills and cognition on fat burning

1:28:39 – Using science as a guide to get results

1:37:01 – How Vespa works

Final Plugs:

Vespapower & Peter Defty Website: https://store.vespapower.com/discount/ketogeek

Use Coupon “Ketogeek” at to Get 20% off First Order ($50 minimum)

Optimized Fat Metabolism(OFM): http://optimizedfatmetabolism.com/

Shop Energy Pods: https://ketogeek.com/collections/energy-pods

Newsletter Signup: https://ketogeek.com/pages/sign-up

Time Stamps:

0:20 – Energy Pod Updates

9:07 – Using fat as fuel, FASTER study and work with Dr. Stephen Phinney

21:12 – Vespa & Bioactive Peptides

24:35 – Intellectual dishonesty in sports nutrition and supplement companies

31:18 – The China study, debunking nutrition science & the disparity between science and actual results

36:54 – Nutritional balance, carnivory, ruminant agriculture and why eating less is more

43:09 – Confirmation bias in science and its impact on science

45:40 – Relevant studies in sports nutrition

47:01 – Why “Recovery” is a misunderstood buzz word

48:04 – Low Carb vs. High Carb endurance sports

50:08 – Surgical use of carbs in optimizing performance and fat metabolism

54:53 – Ketogains pre-workout protocol

58:06 – Life of primitive man, eating correct and nutritional deficiencies

1:04:09 – Failure of Bulletproof coffee and metabolic efficiency

1:08:16 – Plants are born in ketosis!

1:09:50 – Preferred sources of fats for the body and hierarchy of fat storage

1:12:26 – Fasted or non-fasted before ultraendurance event?

1:15:52 – Electrolyte management and hydration while performing in different weather and seasons

1:21:16 – Affect of fat adaptation on physiology and thermal regulation

1:25:07 – Improvements in motor skills and cognition on fat burning

1:28:39 – Using science as a guide to get results

1:37:01 – How Vespa works

Final Plugs:

Vespapower & Peter Defty Website: https://store.vespapower.com/discount/ketogeek

Use Coupon “Ketogeek” at to Get 20% off First Order ($50 minimum)

Optimized Fat Metabolism(OFM): http://optimizedfatmetabolism.com/

Shop Energy Pods: https://ketogeek.com/collections/energy-pods

Newsletter Signup: https://ketogeek.com/pages/sign-up

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22. Bad Politics of Supplement Companies & Why Universities Teach Antiquated Science | Rachel Gregory

As latest research accumulates on diet and nutrition and is accessible by everyone, educational and government institutions are left in the dust with antiquated policies, textbooks and science. How do you go about building a successful career as a nutritionist, athlete and health professional when such is the case?

Bio: Rachel Gregory is a Board-Certified Nutrition Specialist, Athletic Trainer and Strength and Conditioning Coach. She received her Master’s Degree in Nutrition & Exercise Physiology from James Madison University and Bachelor’s Degree in Sports Medicine from the University of Miami. Rachel has a vast knowledge on the science and application of the Ketogenic Diet for weight loss, performance and overall health. She completed the first ever human clinical trial looking at the effects of the Ketogenic Diet in Crossfit athletes, which is published in the International Journal of Sports and Exercise Medicine. Rachel has presented her research at national conferences and works closely with several doctors and scientists specializing in the low-carbohydrate, ketogenic lifestyle. Rachel is the Founder and CEO of Killin It Keto, LLC and creator of the 21-Day Keto Challenge. She has worked with a variety of individuals throughout her career that include Division I collegiate athletes, WNBA stars, and some of the top bodybuilders in the world. She has a passion for educating those interested in optimizing their physical and mental wellbeing while improving long-term health goals.

Time Stamps:

8:42 – Trend of entrepreneurship among the younger generation

10:44 – Why did you get into sports and nutrition?

13:28 – Knowing the latest nutrition, what would you change about your education?

15:18 – How long does it take for latest science to get into university textbooks?

16:45 – As an athlete or coach, how do I incorporate latest research into my endeavor?

19:50 – The politics of the food and nutrition industry

21:18 – Company greed and politics of the Keto products

24:22 – How did you get into Keto?

26:42 – Body Recomposition research on keto vs. non-keto in crossfit athletes

29:45 – Why did keto athletes lose more fat?

31:03 – How do you acquire funding for research?

32:44 – Is citizen science the future?

35:21 – How do you filter good and bad anecdotes?

38:00 – What supplements could work on Keto?

40:14 – What kind of clients do you work with?

45:13 – What can people expect with the 21 Day Keto Challenge?

46:45 – Why call it “Killin It Keto”?

48:21 – How do you approach physicians, nutritionists and experts who are skeptical of keto?

50:29 – Biggest hurdles people face when they go on keto?

53:31 – What listening and reading material do you recommend?

55:23 – How do you limit information in a sea of information overload?

56:26 – Any specific issues with women who get on Keto?

59:59 – What sports could benefit from Keto?

1:02:02 – What training do you still do and how has it changed?

1:08:18 – Incorporating keto with crossfit games

1:09:30 – How do you know when to step back from physical training?

1:11:30 – How do step up when everyone wants to shut you up?

1:12:46 – What research would you like to see?

1:16:18 – Final Plug

Show Links:

Ketogeek Energy Pods Shop: https://ketogeek.com/collections/energy-pods

Paleo Medicina Open Days Sign Up: https://www.paleomedicina.com/en/paleomedicina-clinical-open-days

Nutty Carnviore Diet: https://ketogeek.com/pages/nutty-carnivore-diet

Share Your Success Story: https://ketogeek.com/pages/submit-your-story

Rachel Gregory Links:

Killin It Keto Website & 21 Day Challenge: https://killinitketo.com/?wpam_id=2

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/killinitketo/?hl=en

Twitter: https://twitter.com/Killinitketo?lang=en

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/killinitketo/

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCsYmNy7fYkQDbmbB8ko1aFQ

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24. Can You Do Bodybuilding on Keto? | Robert Sikes of Keto Savage

Is it possible to be a competitive natural bodybuilder on Keto and win competitions? It's time to spend time with the man who has adapted this way of living while living with the iron.

Bio:

Robert Sikes is a natural professional bodybuilder who utilizes a ketogenic diet for body recomposition and has participated in several competitions. He also is the man behind Ketosavage where he coaches and informs people on this lifestyle while helping them attain their goals.

Time Stamps:

00:16 – Interview with Corey of Ketogeek & Creation of Ketogeek products

10:15 – How did you get into Keto?

12:00 – Competing in Bodybuilding shows on Keto

15:30 – What type of Keto do you follow for bodybuilding?

16:55 – How do you track your food?

19:02 – What’s your training style?

21:16 – What supplements to use?

24:32 – Opinions on natural and not natural body building?

25:49 – Going to 3.5% body fat on Keto

27:30 – Prepping for a bodybuilding competition

31:10 – Learning Bodybuilding poses