
HR Data Labs podcast
David Turetsky
The HR Data Labs® podcast is dedicated to Human Resource professionals hearing the latest thoughts of innovators and experts from around the world of business focusing on HR Process, Technology, Regulations, Data and Analytics. Sometimes we may get passionate or a little carried away, but we are always fun and insightful. Podcast website at http://hrdatalabs.com. HR Data Labs is a registered trademark of David Turetsky. Reg. U.S. Pat. & TM Off.
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Mark Stelzner - HR Tech 2024 - Beyond the Hype: Practical AI Integration in the Workplace
HR Data Labs podcast
11/12/24 • 33 min
Mark Stelzner is the Founder and Managing Principal of IA, an HR consulting firm. In this episode, Mark discusses what people aren’t talking about when it comes to AI; why organizations should let their employees safely explore AI in the workplace; and how basic AI guidelines and data governance can be transformational.
This conversation took place at the HR Tech 2024 conference in Las Vegas.
[0:00] Introduction
- Welcome, Mark!
- Today’s Topic: Practical AI Integration in the Workplace
[2:47] What are we missing when it comes to AI?
- Insights on client readiness and typical gaps in AI understanding
- Discussion on who should own AI responsibilities in an organization
[11:41] How can organizations safely explore AI?
- Why employees need a safe playground to experiment with AI
- The capabilities AI can unlock for employees
[22:49] What role does data governance play in an organization’s AI rollout?
- Differentiating AI use within and outside the workplace
- Emphasizing intentional exploration, clear guidelines, and ethical AI use
[32:26] Closing
- Thanks for listening!
Quick Quote
“If an organization has not invested in content that is accurate [and refreshed], an AI model will hallucinate . . . because the large language model is sourcing from content which is not truly authoritative.”
Resource:
IA HR
Contact:
Mark's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Podcast Manager: Karissa HarrisEmail us!Production by Affogato Media

Brandy Muse - Shifting from Mental Health Awareness to Mental Health Action
HR Data Labs podcast
09/19/24 • 41 min
Summary:
Brandy Muse is a Learning Experience Designer for Children’s Hospital of Colorado as well as a consultant and designer with Muse LXD. She spent much of her former life navigating mental health issues at home which sparked a deep passion for mental health treatment and awareness.
In this episode, Brandy talks about her experience with mental health issues; the cultural norms surrounding mental health in the workplace; and how organizations can improve those norms and support their employees.
Chapters:
[0:00 - 5:24] Introduction
- Welcome, Brandy!
- Today’s Topic: Shifting from Mental Health Awareness to Mental Health Action
[5:25 - 23:52] How mental health became a key passion of Brandy’s
- Brandy’s experience with mental health issues
- The flaws in how many organizations navigate mental health
[23:53 - 33:43] How is mental health viewed in the workplace today?
- What must be accepted when asking employees to bring their authentic selves to work
- How organizations can normalize mental health
[33:44 - 39:56] How can we change cultural norms around mental health at work?
- Bringing mental health professionals into the workplace
- The detriment of tying our self-worth to our work
[39:57 - 41:52] Closing
- Thanks for listening!
Quotes:
“Our [mental health] awareness is really loud, but our struggles are staying quiet.”
“[A mental health] professional walking around the [workplace] just normalizes mental health. It shows everybody that the company values this beyond just the benefits band-aid.”
Resources tab
How to build a mental health ERG
Contact:
Brandy's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Podcast Manger: Karissa HarrisEmail us!Production by Affogato Media

Wendy Sellers - How to Attract and Retain Amazing Employees
HR Data Labs podcast
10/10/24 • 38 min
Summary:
Wendy Sellers (also known as The HR Lady®) is a speaker, trainer, consultant, podcast host, and author. In her over 25-year career, she has worked in many areas such as HR operations, downsizing, change management, corporate culture, coaching, training, education, and leadership development.
In this episode, Wendy talks about employers’ top concerns regarding attracting and retaining talent; how managerial roles have changed in the last few decades; and why experienced managers should continue to receive training (even if they don’t want it).
Chapters:
[0:00 - 5:53] Introduction
- Welcome, Wendy!
- Today’s Topic: How to Attract and Retain Amazing Employees
[5:54 - 16:04] What are employers’ top concerns these days?
- Why finding great employees seems so difficult
- The importance of valuing employees and fostering their skillsets
[16:05 - 29:04] How has the manager-employee relationship changed over the years?
- How managers should approach employee reviews
- The effect that changing workplace demographics has on managerial roles
[29:05 - 36:06] How can managers benefit from recurring training
- Mental health and managers’ fear of managing what they don’t know
- Training managers in a large business vs. a small business
[36:07 - 38:23] Closing
- Thanks for listening!
Quotes:
“Finding [employees] alone—never mind amazing [employees]—is very difficult, and it’s expensive since the pandemic.”
“Managers shouldn’t feel bad about going to training, because the world has changed . . . and we need to keep those managers [up-to-date].”
Resources:
The HR Lady
Suck It Up, Buttercup: Be a Leader People Will Follow
Contact:
Wendy's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Podcast Manager: Karissa HarrisEmail us!Production by Affogato Media

Mei Kim and Heidi Perloff - How to Make New HR Technologies Approachable for Everyone
HR Data Labs podcast
04/04/24 • 39 min
Mei Kim is the Executive Director of Global Workforce Analytics at the
Estée Lauder Companies, and Heidi Perloff is the SVP of Global HR
Strategic Initiatives and Delivery Solutions at the Estée Lauder Companies.
In this episode, Mei and Heidi talk about some practices that made
adopting new technologies easier, whether they believe AI-based
technologies pose a threat or present an opportunity to the workforce, and
why it’s important to embrace data mindfulness in HR processes.
Chapters
[0:00 - 4:25] Introduction
• Welcome, Mei and Heidi!
• Today’s Topic: How to Make New HR Technologies Approachable for
Everyone
[4:26 - 14:06] What’s the difference between “digital” and “technology”
• “Technology is a thing; digital is a way of doing things”
• It’s ok for new technology to be difficult to adopt
[14:07 - 27:03] AI: opportunity or threat?
• AI helped Mei’s team win back 10+ hours of their week by minimizing
tedious processes
• The major threat lies in HR not knowing how to use AI technologies or
being curious about it
[27:04 - 37:24] What is data mindfulness?
• Analyze not only the data, but also the data flow and input processes as
well
• Will AI lull us into losing our critical thinking skills?
[37:25 - 39:14] Closing
• Thanks for listening!
Quotes
“HR VPs who embrace being digital and embrace the use of technology . . .
tend to go farther ahead in their careers than others who don’t.”
“Yes, we can get automation from AI, but it’s really the augmentation of
what it enables us to do as human beings that is super exciting.”
Contact:
Mei's LinkedIn
Heidi's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Podcast Manger: Karissa HarrisEmail us!

Amy Leschke-Kahle - The Myth of Measurement
HR Data Labs podcast
10/27/22 • 41 min
Summary:
Amy Leschke-Kahle is the Vice President of Performance Acceleration with the Marcus Buckingham Company, an ADP company. Initially a chemical engineer, she’s worked as a talent practitioner, a product builder, and most recently a world of work mythbuster who is passionate about helping organizations rethink and reinvent how to make work not suck. In this episode, Amy talks about the myth of measurement.
Chapters:
[0:00 -3:55] Introduction
•Welcome, Amy!
•Today’s Topic: The Myth of Measurement
[3:56-14:01] How can measurement be a myth?
•Context is king; trends are critical
•Finding the right amount of measurement
[14:02 -24:17] Don’t we need data to make decisions?
•Identifying the critical points of employee performance
•Using objective measures when possible
[24:18 -36:38] How do we get more employee contribution?
•Creating a culture of frequent attention
•Translating the methodology to employees who work from home
[36:39 -38:47] Final Thoughts & Closing
•Now is the time to rethink work
•Thanks for listening!
Quotes:
“‘What's measured gets measured,’ not ‘what's measured gets done.’ The ‘what's measured’ part, the performance measurement part of that is a whole different process with different intended outcomes. . . . [but] really frequent connections—moments of attention between, particularly, team leaders and team members, that's the performance movement, performance acceleration, however you wanna phrase that.”
“[in ADP Research Institute’s 2022 People at Work Study], people who were working offsite responded more favorably to many of the items on the survey than people who were working onsite. . . . If you think about people who are not working in the same place, when [you] call them, it's usually not, 'Oh, what are you doing today? How's it going? What's the weather like, wherever you are.' It's usually really intentional.”
Resources:
ADP's People at Work 2022 study
Contact:
Amy's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Production by Affogato Media
Podcast Manger: Karissa Harris

Tim Sackett - HR Tech 2021 Series - Recruiting Metrics and Performance: Past, Present, and Future
HR Data Labs podcast
12/02/21 • 29 min
HR Data Labs took the studio mobile and went live at HR Tech 2021 at Mandalay Bay in Las Vegas, NV, talking to thought leaders in People Analytics and HR Technology. Join us as we go on this enlightening journey gathering cutting-edge insights from our guests!
Summary:
Tim Sackett is one of the few HR professionals who has been on both sides of the desk. With over 15 years of experience in talent acquisition, Tim has worked as a corporate staffing director for companies like Applebee’s International, ShopKo Stores, Inc. and Sparrow Health System. He has also had two stints with HRU. The first time, for eight year immediately following college; the second, returning à la Prodigal Son to run HRU—and his story is closer to the Biblical reference than you might think! Tim is an active HR blogger, a conference presenter, and an advocate for a Diet Mountain Dew soda fountain in the office. He truly believes that the most important role of HR in any organization is to increase talent.
In this episode, Tim talks about how recruiting metrics and recruiting performance have changed over the years and where they might go in the years to come.
Chapters:
[0:00 - 6:03] Introduction
- Welcome, Tim Sackett!
- Today’s Topic: Recruiting Metrics & Performance
[6:04 - 16:49] Recruiting Metrics that Yield Usable Data
- How some metrics fall short of their intended goal
- Developing a constructive recruiter-hiring manager relationship
[16:50 - 28:35] What Impacts Recruiting Performance?
- Starting to see the impact of AI on talent acquisition
- How transparency in data can drive better performance
- How much does compensation affect a person’s decision to leave an employer?
[28:36 - 29:44] Final Thoughts & Closing
- Thank you for listening!
Contact:
LinkedIn
Quotes:
“All of our funnels, individually and as a team, are all transparent. And if there's a recruiter that had a bad week, or if there's a recruiter that decided to sluff off or whatever, well it shows. And it's not meant to be like a stressor, it's meant to [communicate], “Hey, understand if someone's being successful, take a look at why.” There's no magic, you know, or secret sauce.”
“The “great resignation,” I think, is a misnomer. It's really just a great reshuffle, and people aren't leaving to leave. We’ll see stories in media like, “Oh, Mary left and she's going to take a break for a year, blah, blah, blah. You know, cause work's changed.” And I'm like, okay, but the reality is people are resigning from your company because you're not paying them enough. And somebody else is going to pay them more.”
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Salary.com's Senior Consultants - HR and Comp Predictions for 2024
HR Data Labs podcast
10/26/23 • 43 min
Summary:
This is a special episode featuring a roundtable discussion that includes the following Senior Consultants from Salary.com: Greg Wolf the Managing Principal of Salary.com's Consulting Practice, Rebecca Gorman a Principal of Compensation Consulting, Courtney LeCompte a VP of Compensation Consulting, Garry Straker a VP of Compensation Consulting, Eric McMillan a VP of Compensation Consulting, and Mara Marino a Senior Compensation Consultant.
In this episode, Salary.com’s Senior Consultants join David and Dwight for a roundtable discussion where each shares their predictions for 2024.
Chapters:
[0:00 - 8:36] Introduction
- Welcome, Salary.com Senior Consultants!
- Today’s Topic: Senior Consultants Predict the Future of HR and Compensation in 2024
[8:37 - 11:34] Greg’s Prediction: Salary increase budgets will shrink
- Distinguishing between changes in merit increase budgets and budgets for total increase
[11:35 - 13:01] Mara’s Prediction: More companies will choose to invest in automation
- Existing automation and AI is hit-or-miss; time will tell where it will be a good alternative to human labor
[13:02 - 16:01] Courtney’s Prediction: Organizations will seek out creative strategies to recruit and retain talent
- Employee surveys could help organizations better understand their employees and their wants
[16:02 - 19:00] Garry’s Prediction: Organizations will start better communicating career progression to their employees
- Some legislation is pushing this and many organizations have already taken interest in this shift
[19:01 - 24:58] Eric’s Prediction: Remote work will continue to be very popular among the labor force
- For roles where remote work isn’t an option, flexibility may be a comparable benefit
[24:59 - 28:29] Rebecca’s Prediction: Organizations will develop better infrastructure around job architecture and compensation and benefits budgets
- Government regulations can help push companies to maintain this infrastructure
[28:30 - 36:15] David’s Prediction: High schools and universities will start training students how to best leverage artificial intelligence
- Though AI is still in its infancy, it’s being developed at a rapid pace
[36:16 - 43:17] Final Thoughts & Closing
- Final thoughts from everyone
- Thanks for listening!
Quotes:
“We’re going to see organizations continue to seek out creative strategies to stand out recruit and retain talent.”
“I do wonder what impact the development of artificial intelligence will have on wage growth and if it will put downward pressure on wages.”
Resources:
Salary.com's Consulting Practice
Contact:
Greg's LinkedIn
Rebecca's LinkedIn
Courtney's LinkedIn
Garry's LinkedIn
Eric's LinkedIn
Mara's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Podcast Manger: Karissa HarrisEmail us!Production by Affoga

Marc Miller - The Evolution of HR Technology and How We Can Learn From its History
HR Data Labs podcast
11/05/20 • 31 min
With the HR industry valued at over $6B, how did we get here? Today we have Marc S. Miller to give us some of the answers. Marc has over 35 years of independent HR technology consultancy and is the President and Founder of Marc S. Miller Associates, specializing in HR Technology Strategic Planning, Needs Analysis, Vendor Evaluation, and Cost Justification.
He is considered an HR Technology Thought Leader, and one of only a few independent sole proprietor consultants in the industry. Other than being a keynote speaker, he is an author of several books, his newest being - The Death of HR.
Let’s dive right in and grab Marc’s insights on the evolution of HR and what we can take away from its history.
[00:01 - 08:15] Opening Segment
- Let’s get to know Marc
- Marc gives a bit about his book and background
[08:16 - 14:43] Where HR Emanated From
- Marc gives us a bit of history about where HR came from
- How legislation led to what we have today
- Actionable insights
[14:44 - 22:06] Ensuring Your Position during the Pandemic
- Marc talks about proving the value of functionality
- The burden on HR today
- Identifying the information needed to do your job
[22:07 - 26:50] HR Newcomers and Education
- Marc talks a bit about what he is currently teaching
- Coming in from other backgrounds
[26:51 - 31:08] Closing Segment
- Summary of our conversation
- Marc’s advice for going into the HR field and career management
- Final Words
Resources Mentioned:
Tweetable Quotes:
“The concept is, the technology must be there today, and that has been driven over the years by many things, but is started with legislation.” - Marc S. Miller
“The people in HR have to prove the value of their function and prove that the people in the world of the company... have added value to the company.” - Marc S. Miller
“Keep your eyes open, care about your career, make sure you’re working for a good boss, make sure you’re working for a company that is aligned with your values... and keep progressing.” - Marc S. Miller
Connect with Marc on LinkedIn. Visit https://www.marcsmillerassociates.com/ to learn more.
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Joe Phoenix - Charitable Giving as an Employee Benefit
HR Data Labs podcast
01/26/23 • 36 min
Summary:
Joe Phoenix is the Co-founder and CEO of Givinga, a Philantech (i.e., philanthropic technology) firm that designs customized giving solutions. Seven years ago, Joe saw that the culture around corporate giving was changing and that employees were holding their employers to a higher standard. He left his longtime employment as Head of Global Institutional Management at Putnam Investments to co-found Givinga and encourage companies to treat philanthropy as brand enhancing investment.
In this episode, Joe talks about corporate charitable giving and how it factors into employee benefits and workplace culture.
Chapters:
[0:00 - 6:03] Introduction
- Welcome, Joe!
- Today’s Topic: Charitable Giving as an Employee Benefit
[6:04 - 14:00] What is the state of corporate giving?
- Philanthropy is no longer simply the act of checking a box
- Differentiating between political giving and charitable giving
[14:01 - 22:50] How does corporate giving translate to employee giving?
- Why employees want to view their employers as an extension of themselves
- Redefining what it means “to give”
[22:51 - 31:20] Philanthropic technology
- Giving money vs giving time
- How technology can with knowing how and whom to give to
[31:21 - 37:00] Final Thoughts & Closing
- How adding technology to philanthropy can have massive impacts
- Thanks for listening!
Quotes:
“We've seen a pretty significant shift over the last five years of companies realizing that philanthropic giving is not really a check the box exercise anymore. . . . I think that the employees that companies are hiring, the customers that they're interacting with, are demanding more than a check the box.”
“What companies are realizing is that they have this massive amount of potential impact in their employee base. And on the other side, the employees are realizing that the way that they can become more philanthropic is by efficiently working with their employer to drive these dollars in a more meaningful way out to causes that support them.”
Contact:
Joe's LinkedIn
David's LinkedIn
Dwight's LinkedIn
Production by Affogato Media
Podcast Manger: Karissa Harris

Turetsky Consulting Team - A Fireside Chat on Trends in People Analytics
HR Data Labs podcast
09/16/21 • 31 min
Summary:
Turetsky Consulting is comprised of an amazing team of consultants and experts and each of them is part of today’s very special episode! They discuss some of the latest trends trends and topics that have come up in the world of HR and people analytics.
In this episode, David and the rest of the Turetsky Consulting team talk about people analytics topics that have been top-of-mind.
Chapters:
[0:00 - 1:37] Introduction
- Welcome, Turetsky Consulting team!
- Today’s Topic: Trends in HR Analytics
[1:38 - 13:38] What is Talent Intelligence?
- Using talent intelligence as a point of reference and comparison.
- Assessments as part of job applications.
[13:39 - 20:16] Artificial Intelligence in the World of HR
- AI’s role in job applications.
- When AI might not be as intelligent as a person.
[20:17 - 28:50] How Has the Business Intelligence and Analytics Market Changed, and How Has That Affected HR?
- Business intelligence merging with business applications.
- How to properly manage change in an organization.
[28:51 - 31:24] Final Thoughts & Closing
- Episode summary
- The team shares its closing thoughts
Tweetable Quotes:
“I think sometimes we get too fascinated with the science and technology of it, and we forget the human component. ... When I would consult clients talent management, I would always say, ‘Let’s not forget that we’re all human.’”
“If you’re only using change management to force a bunch of people to use something, I think you’re missing [the point].”
"If we spend more time listening before we buy and build a technology; and then make sure that what we design is attuned to our users, it's better."
Turetsky Consulting Website
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How many episodes does HR Data Labs podcast have?
HR Data Labs podcast currently has 223 episodes available.
What topics does HR Data Labs podcast cover?
The podcast is about People, Analytics, Management, Data, Podcasts, Big Data, Human Resources, Business and Careers.
What is the most popular episode on HR Data Labs podcast?
The episode title 'Amber Ontiveros - Woundings That Drive Imposter Syndrome' is the most popular.
What is the average episode length on HR Data Labs podcast?
The average episode length on HR Data Labs podcast is 35 minutes.
How often are episodes of HR Data Labs podcast released?
Episodes of HR Data Labs podcast are typically released every 7 days.
When was the first episode of HR Data Labs podcast?
The first episode of HR Data Labs podcast was released on Sep 30, 2020.
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