
So Similar Yet So Different: Check Your Local Jurisdiction with Courtney Shepard
03/29/22 • 50 min
It’s become a bit of a running gag throughout our five seasons that we often tell you to “check your local jurisdiction,” but there’s good reason behind the joke. Every state, or jurisdiction, has its own laws that need to be followed and adhered to.
To help us in this conversation, we’ve invited family law specialist Courtney Shepard from Burch Shepard Family Law Group – all the way from Orange County, California – to join us so we can better understand how laws are similar from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, how they’re different, and how you can better navigate them during your own divorce.
It may be that the divorce happened during the process and decision to move from one jurisdiction to another. Or perhaps the two of you are looking for the best place to get your divorce. Maybe you’re trying to sort out what is best for the kids. Or maybe there’s a prenup involved.
There are many reasons you may need to think about dealing with different jurisdictions during your divorce process, and we touch on them here. so tune in to hear Seth, Pete, and Courtney hash through the murky waters of ‘local jurisdictions.’
Find Courtney at Burch Shepard Family Law Group

It’s become a bit of a running gag throughout our five seasons that we often tell you to “check your local jurisdiction,” but there’s good reason behind the joke. Every state, or jurisdiction, has its own laws that need to be followed and adhered to.
To help us in this conversation, we’ve invited family law specialist Courtney Shepard from Burch Shepard Family Law Group – all the way from Orange County, California – to join us so we can better understand how laws are similar from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, how they’re different, and how you can better navigate them during your own divorce.
It may be that the divorce happened during the process and decision to move from one jurisdiction to another. Or perhaps the two of you are looking for the best place to get your divorce. Maybe you’re trying to sort out what is best for the kids. Or maybe there’s a prenup involved.
There are many reasons you may need to think about dealing with different jurisdictions during your divorce process, and we touch on them here. so tune in to hear Seth, Pete, and Courtney hash through the murky waters of ‘local jurisdictions.’
Find Courtney at Burch Shepard Family Law Group

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So Similar Yet So Different: Check Your Local Jurisdiction with Courtney Shepard
It’s become a bit of a running gag throughout our five seasons that we often tell you to “check your local jurisdiction,” but there’s good reason behind the joke. Every state, or jurisdiction, has its own laws that need to be followed and adhered to.
To help us in this conversation, we’ve invited family law specialist Courtney Shepard from Burch Shepard Family Law Group – all the way from Orange County, California – to join us so we can better understand how laws are similar from jurisdiction to jurisdiction, how they’re different, and how you can better navigate them during your own divorce.
It may be that the divorce happened during the process and decision to move from one jurisdiction to another. Or perhaps the two of you are looking for the best place to get your divorce. Maybe you’re trying to sort out what is best for the kids. Or maybe there’s a prenup involved.
There are many reasons you may need to think about dealing with different jurisdictions during your divorce process, and we touch on them here. so tune in to hear Seth, Pete, and Courtney hash through the murky waters of ‘local jurisdictions.’
Find Courtney at Burch Shepard Family Law Group
- (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
- (00:26) - Meet Courtney Shepard
- (03:59) - What Is a Jurisdiction?
- (06:46) - Different States, Different Elements
- (11:10) - Parties in Different States
- (17:10) - Choosing the Jurisdiction
- (17:32) - Prenups
- (18:57) - Working With Other States
- (22:35) - Sponsor: Soberlink
- (24:08) - Community Property vs. Equitable Distribution
- (29:09) - Child Custody
- (32:16) - Mediation
- (36:48) - Post-Divorce Issues
- (40:32) - Who's Got Jurisdiction?
- (43:43) - 1st Bit of Advice
- (44:24) - Changes to Policies & the Law
- (46:58) - All the Same
- (48:11) - Wrap Up
Next Episode

De-Escalating Conflict with Divorce Coach Cherie Morris
De-Escalating Conflict
By its very nature, divorce is ripe with conflict. It starts because of conflict, it’s full of conflict all the way through, and often – particularly in cases with children involved – there is still conflict on the other side. Is there an easier way to deal with it? How do you learn the fine art of control in this minefield of conflict?
Joining us on the Toaster today is divorce coach and parent coordinator Cherie Morris. She’s behind DearDivorceCoach.com helping couples actively going through divorce learn to recognize signs of conflict so they can help de-escalate the situation and more easily resolve their problems. It’s a task for sure, but she’s game. And clearly, she knows her stuff.
The conversation starts with looking at areas that are most ripe for conflict – stuff and children. No surprise really. From there, we talk about the challenges of needing control and how to instead survive by being nice, looking at your needs as requests instead of demands, and setting your expectations low.
We look at dealing with the ex who’s a boat anchor and the need to pick your battles. And a big part is learning to free yourself from the need for context.
The big question is who’s bringing the high conflict to the divorce and relationship. How do you know if it’s you? And if it is you, what can you do about it?
It’s a fun and informative conversation with Cherie, so tune in and get ready to de-escalate.
Links & Notes
- Dear Divorce Coach website
- Cherie’s one-pager on how to de-escalate co-parenting in high conflict situations
- Cherie on LinkedIn, Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, & YouTube
- Cherie’s Books
- (00:00) - Welcome to How to Split a Toaster
- (00:27) - Meet Cherie Morris
- (01:18) - Biggest Triggers
- (03:59) - Counseling Both Sides
- (06:08) - Power Dynamics & Agreements
- (09:56) - Tools for Life
- (11:24) - BIFF Method
- (13:59) - Learning to Communicate
- (17:32) - The Boat Anchor
- (19:58) - Picking Your Battles
- (21:57) - Freeing Yourself From the Need for Context
- (25:35) - Child-Centric
- (28:32) - Are You High Conflict?
- (31:00) - When Not to Counsel
- (33:08) - Wrapping Up
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