
Floris van der Pol - Living Without a Smartphone and Reading 100 Books a Year
01/22/22 • 61 min
Floris van der Pol is a Dutch philosopher, writer, and self-described “reading addict”. He publishes book reviews on YouTube as well as videos on reading more generally and on living without a smartphone, which he has done for years now. Floris also writes a newsletter with essays on philosophy and literature.
I met Floris in a course I was taking on YouTube—the Part-Time YouTuber Academy by Ali Abdaal, if you’re curious—in which Floris gave me fantastic feedback on some of my own YouTube videos. We got to chatting and some of his YouTube videos impressed me so much that I wanted to get him on the show.
Floris and I discuss:
- How he reads 100 books a year
- What it’s like to live without a smartphone
- How he designed his life to improve his attention span
- Getting stuff done with a baby around
- Whether video gaming qualifies as an addiction
And much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Floris:
- FlorisLeest.nl (in Dutch)
- Floris Leest on YouTube (in Dutch)
Floris van der Pol is a Dutch philosopher, writer, and self-described “reading addict”. He publishes book reviews on YouTube as well as videos on reading more generally and on living without a smartphone, which he has done for years now. Floris also writes a newsletter with essays on philosophy and literature.
I met Floris in a course I was taking on YouTube—the Part-Time YouTuber Academy by Ali Abdaal, if you’re curious—in which Floris gave me fantastic feedback on some of my own YouTube videos. We got to chatting and some of his YouTube videos impressed me so much that I wanted to get him on the show.
Floris and I discuss:
- How he reads 100 books a year
- What it’s like to live without a smartphone
- How he designed his life to improve his attention span
- Getting stuff done with a baby around
- Whether video gaming qualifies as an addiction
And much more. Enjoy the show!
Find Floris:
- FlorisLeest.nl (in Dutch)
- Floris Leest on YouTube (in Dutch)
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Derrick Reimer from SavvyCal - Can You Regain Your Confidence After Failing?
Derrick Reimer is the founder of SavvyCal, a tool for scheduling meetings that both you and the people you are scheduling with will love. He's also the co-founder of Drip, a marketing automation tool, and he is the host of the Art of Product podcast.
I have long enjoyed using an app to schedule my meetings. For example, I scheduled meetings with my coaching clients. Rather than going back and forth with endless emails, trying to find a mutually convenient time. I just send people a link so they can book a slot on my calendar. I had been using a different tool, but recently I discovered SavvyCal and it's so much more enjoyable to use. So I looked into who created it and I ended up on Derrick's Twitter account. I learned that Derrick had co-founded Drip, which was one of the first apps I used years ago when I was first building my online business. And I have very fond memories of Drip, even though I no longer use it because Drip went into a different direction.
Anyway, I was interested to hear Derrick’s story—and it turns out there were quite a few ups and downs.
Derrick and I discuss:
- Regaining your confidence after launching a failed product
- Transitioning from wearing all the hats in a business to delegating certain tasks
- Saving your most productive time for your most valuable work
Find Derrick and Savvycal:
- SavvyCal.com
- Derrick on Twitter
- Derrick’s podcast, The Art of Product
Note: the link to SavvyCal is an affiliate link. It’s an awesome product and by signing up through this link, you get a free month and you support the podcast. Thank you.
Also mentioned:
- Derrick’s popular blog post, “I’m Walking Away From the Product I Spent a Year Building”
- Drip, the marketing automation business Derrick co-founded
- The Mom Test by Rob Fitzpatrick
- Tiny Seed, an accelerator for SaaS bootstrappers
- xFusion, which offers support staff for SaaS
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Jack Ellis - How to Run a Company People-First
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- The importance of online privacy and how his company enables that
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- Overcoming analysis paralysis
- The big downside of working remotely—or is it even a downside?
- Why I don’t give specific advice for people with ADHD (or other conditions)
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Find Jack:
- JackEllis.me
- Fathom Analytics, privacy-focused website analytics
- Serverless Laravel, Jack’s course for Laravel developers
- Above Board, the Fathom Analytics podcast, which Jack co-hosts
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