Log in

goodpods headphones icon

To access all our features

Open the Goodpods app
Close icon
FRIED. The Burnout Podcast - Helena Lucia: Money, Burnout, and Interrupting Old Patterns After Leaving a Cult

Helena Lucia: Money, Burnout, and Interrupting Old Patterns After Leaving a Cult

05/29/22 • 51 min

1 Listener

FRIED. The Burnout Podcast

Helena Lucia, founder and CEO of SISU Journey, is a speaker, podcast host and trauma-informed money coach. Her experiences growing up in an extreme fundamentalist religious cult led her down a path where she became passionate about helping others heal from childhood trauma through gaining a better relationship with money. She shares her tips for interrupting old patterns of behavior, healing from burnout, and rethinking how we view money. Tune into this episode to learn more.

“Instead of having the prescribed identity that you've been given, who do you want to become?” asks Helena Lucia, CEO and founder of SISU Journey. Helena grew up burnt out. Growing up in a cult meant that she did not have the agency to listen to or attend to her own needs. When she finally escaped the religious cult and her abusive marriage, she was a mother of four children and had to start over from scratch while totally burned out. She went to college for a degree in computer sciences and headed into the corporate world where she found herself in a sequence of burnout after burnout. When Helena realized the pattern, she was able to learn how to interrupt it through a process she refers to as SPACE.

Helena decided she wanted to find a way to help others heal from their traumas and interrupt the patterns in their lives that were leading to burnout. By learning to give ourselves the physical space we need to pay attention to our body’s cues, access people who can help us, and redefine ourselves based on our own terms instead of trying to be what everyone else wants, we can interrupt burnout and begin to heal from trauma.

Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Helena Lucia about how to interrupt old patterns in our lives. Learn each step of the acronym SPACE and how to apply it to your own life.

Quotes

“I use the acronym of space. So starting out with creating more space in between things. P is paying attention to how your body is reacting and responding. And then you can start interrupting the pattern of how you unconsciously react in a situation or how you desire to respond.” (21:26-21:52 | Helena Lucia)

“If your family has a pattern that's been perpetuated through the years and you as the ancestor in charge of changing the pattern actually take the learnings from that and release the emotion, you can actually interrupt a family history pattern.” (22:14-22:36 | Helena Lucia)

“C is create your dream identity. And that's where you start. Instead of having the prescribed identity that you've been given that you were told you are, who do you want to become?” (35:38-35:51 | Helena Lucia)

“When we co regulate as infants we're supposed to be getting our cues for safety and freedom from our caregivers and when we don't, we develop attachment wounds. Those attachment wounds get fused very tightly to our relationship with money, because money in a scarce childhood experience gets fused with this idea of safety and freedom really deeply.” (40:11-40:44 | Helena Lucia)

XOXO,

C

https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/dr-kristin-neff-self-compassion-being-human-and-living-with-an-open-heart

If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait

Take the FRIED burnout quiz: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz

Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

plus icon
bookmark

Helena Lucia, founder and CEO of SISU Journey, is a speaker, podcast host and trauma-informed money coach. Her experiences growing up in an extreme fundamentalist religious cult led her down a path where she became passionate about helping others heal from childhood trauma through gaining a better relationship with money. She shares her tips for interrupting old patterns of behavior, healing from burnout, and rethinking how we view money. Tune into this episode to learn more.

“Instead of having the prescribed identity that you've been given, who do you want to become?” asks Helena Lucia, CEO and founder of SISU Journey. Helena grew up burnt out. Growing up in a cult meant that she did not have the agency to listen to or attend to her own needs. When she finally escaped the religious cult and her abusive marriage, she was a mother of four children and had to start over from scratch while totally burned out. She went to college for a degree in computer sciences and headed into the corporate world where she found herself in a sequence of burnout after burnout. When Helena realized the pattern, she was able to learn how to interrupt it through a process she refers to as SPACE.

Helena decided she wanted to find a way to help others heal from their traumas and interrupt the patterns in their lives that were leading to burnout. By learning to give ourselves the physical space we need to pay attention to our body’s cues, access people who can help us, and redefine ourselves based on our own terms instead of trying to be what everyone else wants, we can interrupt burnout and begin to heal from trauma.

Tune into today’s episode of FRIED. The Burnout Podcast for a conversation with Helena Lucia about how to interrupt old patterns in our lives. Learn each step of the acronym SPACE and how to apply it to your own life.

Quotes

“I use the acronym of space. So starting out with creating more space in between things. P is paying attention to how your body is reacting and responding. And then you can start interrupting the pattern of how you unconsciously react in a situation or how you desire to respond.” (21:26-21:52 | Helena Lucia)

“If your family has a pattern that's been perpetuated through the years and you as the ancestor in charge of changing the pattern actually take the learnings from that and release the emotion, you can actually interrupt a family history pattern.” (22:14-22:36 | Helena Lucia)

“C is create your dream identity. And that's where you start. Instead of having the prescribed identity that you've been given that you were told you are, who do you want to become?” (35:38-35:51 | Helena Lucia)

“When we co regulate as infants we're supposed to be getting our cues for safety and freedom from our caregivers and when we don't, we develop attachment wounds. Those attachment wounds get fused very tightly to our relationship with money, because money in a scarce childhood experience gets fused with this idea of safety and freedom really deeply.” (40:11-40:44 | Helena Lucia)

XOXO,

C

https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/dr-kristin-neff-self-compassion-being-human-and-living-with-an-open-heart

If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait

Take the FRIED burnout quiz: https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz

Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Previous Episode

undefined - #straightfromcait: The Articles Against Self-Care for Burnout Recovery Are Missing This Major Point

#straightfromcait: The Articles Against Self-Care for Burnout Recovery Are Missing This Major Point

1 Recommendations

Many articles that talk about burnout make the mistake of devaluing self-care as a burnout prevention or recovery tool. But self care isn’t all just pedicures and massages, and it can be a huge factor in burnout recovery. When you take away self-care, it puts the entire focus on the systems in place that cause burnout, which may lead people to believe there is nothing they can do to influence their burnout recovery. In today’s #straightfromcait episode, Cait explains 8 factors affecting burnout that are within our locus of control.

Are you feeling like you have no control over any of the causes of your burnout? The first step is to figure out which factors are internal and which are external. If your burnout is caused mostly by external factors such as your job, then you know to start making an exit plan. Not all factors are external, and many internal factors are within our control. By getting reacquainted with our core values, learning to set boundaries, and beginning to meet our most basic foundational bodily needs, you can reduce the factors that contribute to burnout.

Tune into this week’s #straightfromcait episode for a conversation about how certain types of self care are pivotal for burnout recovery. Learn the 8 factors within our internal locus of control that can help you heal from burnout.

Quotes

• “Waiting for the system to change while you're already burned out is not a successful plan.” (3:27-3:32)

• “You might not be able to change the system, but you can leave it.” (6:50-6:54)

• “Knowing what your values are, and taking action to move yourself toward a life that is more aligned with them will catapult your recovery. Being in alignment matters. I don't mean this in a woowoo way. I mean this in a neuroscience way. If you are living a life that does not match your values, about 75 to 80% of the time, you are creating stress for yourself on a regular basis that your body has to react to.” (12:21-12:50)

• “It is really, really difficult to notice and meet your bigger needs when your basic needs are ignored. Work on being in your body enough to notice when you are thirsty, tired, have to use the bathroom, your eyes need a break from the screen, you’re full from eating, your body is asking you to move. The basics. When you start caring for yourself on that very base level, you start to believe you are deserving of even more care.” (16:33-17:35)

Links:

https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz

https://www.friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/post/straightfromcait-teach-your-brain-that-you-re-safe-and-it-will-grow-new-nerve-cells

https://www.maggiesupernova.com/yoga

https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-ie

https://caitdonovan.com/freebie-values

Reference:

Harrington, R. Personality and Stress. Stress, Health, and Well-Being: Thriving in the 21st Century. Boston. Cengage. 2013. 9781111831615. Ch. 6. pp. 171-208.

XOXO,

C

If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait

Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Next Episode

undefined - #straightfromsarah: Knowing and Accepting Yourself Makes Burnout Recovery Faster

#straightfromsarah: Knowing and Accepting Yourself Makes Burnout Recovery Faster

Do you feel like you’re not actually suited for the role you are trying to fill in your life? That role might not be the ideal one for you! In this week’s #straightfromsarah episode, FRIED Burnout Coach Sarah Vosen talks about ways to get to know yourself better and how to apply what you learn to help lead a more fulfilling and more burnout-proof life.

When Sarah realized she wasn’t thriving in her chosen profession, she could not understand why at first. However, once she started taking some personality quizzes and really looking seriously at the results, it became very clear that the type of person she was and the type of career she had chosen were not perfectly compatible. She’d struggled her entire life trying to fit in and be like everyone else, but her personality types showed that she was unique and one of the rarer types of people on the planet. When we learn more about ourselves, we can make sure we are spending our time and energy appropriately instead of trying to fill roles we were never meant to fill.

Tune into this week’s #straightfromsarah episode to learn more about different personality quizzes and why it is important that your personality type be compatible with your lifestyle and career choices.

Quotes

“I was not meant to be doing life like most people, but I had been pushing myself as hard as I could to keep up and work hard like the masses. And when I sat down and looked at all of these quiz results and descriptions, and looked at what truly resonated for me, I realized that I am not like most. My personality traits make me one of the less common members of humanity. I am on the fringe. No wonder I don't tend to want to do or buy the same things as most nor can I handle the same kind of schedule.” (4:25-4:54 | Sarah)

“I couldn't see as many patients as my other acupuncturist and massage therapist friends. I found out later that those friends were indeed a different type than I am. They are generators or manifesting generators, which means that they are folks that are wired for getting more work done. I was trying to be someone I wasn't, and it felt terrible.” (5:22-5:38 | Sarah)

“In order to recover from burnout I needed to accept my role, the one that utilizes my strengths. The one that I'm wired for. The one that my constitution is suited for.” (6:12-6:22 | Sarah)

“The more we know ourselves, we gain clarity around what to take on and how to spend our time and energy. This helps us say no to what isn't ours and let the rest go. This is crucial in burnout recovery.” (7:53-8:06 | Sarah)

“You don’t have to be everything to everyone. You just have to be you. And do the role that you’re already good at. If that sounds relieving to you, please give yourself permission to let go of offering everything that isn’t yours.” (10:21-10:35 | Sarah)

Links

Our quiz: https://quiz.tryinteract.com/#/61d4455460a67b0018a4c902

Sarah: https://caitdonovan.as.me/sarah-connect

Cait: https://caitdonovan.as.me/free

Links to personality quizzes:

Myers-Briggs: https://www.16personalities.com/free-personality-test

Enneagram: https://personalitypath.com/free-enneagram-personality-test/

Chinese 5 Elements: https://learnthefiveelements.com/5-elements-quiz/

Human Design: https://www.jovianarchive.com/get_your_chart

Ayurvedic Dosha: https://kripalu.org/content/whats-your-dosha

Highly Sensitivity: https://hsperson.com/test/highly-sensitive-test/

Astrological Sign: https://chart.chaninicholas.com

XOXO,

C

If you know that it’s time to actually DO something about the burnout cycle you’ve been in for too long - book your free consult today: bit.ly/callcait

https://friedtheburnoutpodcast.com/quiz

Podcast production and show notes provided by HiveCast.fm

Learn more about your ad choices. Visit

Episode Comments

Featured in these lists

Generate a badge

Get a badge for your website that links back to this episode

Select type & size
Open dropdown icon
share badge image

<a href="https://goodpods.com/podcasts/fried-the-burnout-podcast-205132/helena-lucia-money-burnout-and-interrupting-old-patterns-after-leaving-21188528"> <img src="https://storage.googleapis.com/goodpods-images-bucket/badges/generic-badge-1.svg" alt="listen to helena lucia: money, burnout, and interrupting old patterns after leaving a cult on goodpods" style="width: 225px" /> </a>

Copy