
From Solo Agent, to Team Lead, to Inc 500 Broker Owner 🔥🚀 |Founders Club ft. Kevin Markarian
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01/29/20 • 76 min
How do you start over in a new market and compete with established top producers? Kevin Markarian did it by investing online leads and developing follow-up systems for high-level conversion. Eventually, Kevin built a team and then a brokerage to support the lead flow, and he continues to leverage the best available digital tools to manage his growing real estate empire.
Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram: @OliverGraf360
Kevin is the Broker-Owner at Marker Real Estate, a wildly successful brokerage out of San Francisco with regional offices throughout California. Since its founding in 2014, Marker has become known as one of the nation’s most innovative companies and earned a spot on the Inc. 500. As a thought leader in the industry, Kevin is a regular contributor to RIS Media and Inman News, and he has served as a panelist and speaker for the National Association of Realtors.
On this episode of Founders Club, Kevin joins Oliver to explain how he got his start in real estate working for a developer in the Central Valley and what he did to start over in San Francisco after the crash. He shares what inspired him to go all-in on online leads, discussing how the Marker Real Estate systems empower agents to grow their business. Listen in for insight on Kevin’s 1985 Bears Defense approach to marketing and learn how he is outsourcing his proven model to support others.
Key Takeaways[1:48] How Kevin got his start in real estate
- Grew up in Modesto, introduced to broker at age 20
- Hired on with top developer in 2003 (became #1 agent)
[8:26] Kevin’s transition from Modesto to San Francisco
- Made decision to fail big in big city after crash
- Started buying leads, building SOI before move
[16:17] The AHA moment Kevin went all-in on online leads
- NAR session on managing high volume of leads
- Bought all of San Francisco County from Realtor.com
- Built team to handle lead flow, CRM to track
[27:50] What differentiates Marker Real Estate as a brokerage
- ISA team responds to online leads, sets appointments
- Long-term follow-up system = high conversion rate
[36:15] How Marker Real Estate is growing now
- Expand to other markets throughout California
- Partner with others to use model in their business
[42:25] Kevin’s strategy for growing his business
- Connect with hard-working, collaborative people
- Leverage digital tools to be everywhere all the time
[50:52] Kevin’s 1985 Bears Defense approach to marketing
- Blast target audience with email, text and calls
- Become celebrity to client base on social media
[59:43] The art of building duplicatable systems
- Keep it simple and battle test them yourself
- Ask others to document for your review
[1:04:50] What Kevin is investing in now
- Natural hazard disclosure, mortgage ventures
- Profit centers related to real estate business
Do me a solid and...
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How do you start over in a new market and compete with established top producers? Kevin Markarian did it by investing online leads and developing follow-up systems for high-level conversion. Eventually, Kevin built a team and then a brokerage to support the lead flow, and he continues to leverage the best available digital tools to manage his growing real estate empire.
Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram: @OliverGraf360
Kevin is the Broker-Owner at Marker Real Estate, a wildly successful brokerage out of San Francisco with regional offices throughout California. Since its founding in 2014, Marker has become known as one of the nation’s most innovative companies and earned a spot on the Inc. 500. As a thought leader in the industry, Kevin is a regular contributor to RIS Media and Inman News, and he has served as a panelist and speaker for the National Association of Realtors.
On this episode of Founders Club, Kevin joins Oliver to explain how he got his start in real estate working for a developer in the Central Valley and what he did to start over in San Francisco after the crash. He shares what inspired him to go all-in on online leads, discussing how the Marker Real Estate systems empower agents to grow their business. Listen in for insight on Kevin’s 1985 Bears Defense approach to marketing and learn how he is outsourcing his proven model to support others.
Key Takeaways[1:48] How Kevin got his start in real estate
- Grew up in Modesto, introduced to broker at age 20
- Hired on with top developer in 2003 (became #1 agent)
[8:26] Kevin’s transition from Modesto to San Francisco
- Made decision to fail big in big city after crash
- Started buying leads, building SOI before move
[16:17] The AHA moment Kevin went all-in on online leads
- NAR session on managing high volume of leads
- Bought all of San Francisco County from Realtor.com
- Built team to handle lead flow, CRM to track
[27:50] What differentiates Marker Real Estate as a brokerage
- ISA team responds to online leads, sets appointments
- Long-term follow-up system = high conversion rate
[36:15] How Marker Real Estate is growing now
- Expand to other markets throughout California
- Partner with others to use model in their business
[42:25] Kevin’s strategy for growing his business
- Connect with hard-working, collaborative people
- Leverage digital tools to be everywhere all the time
[50:52] Kevin’s 1985 Bears Defense approach to marketing
- Blast target audience with email, text and calls
- Become celebrity to client base on social media
[59:43] The art of building duplicatable systems
- Keep it simple and battle test them yourself
- Ask others to document for your review
[1:04:50] What Kevin is investing in now
- Natural hazard disclosure, mortgage ventures
- Profit centers related to real estate business
Do me a solid and...
Find me on Instagram: @OliverGraf360
SUBSCRIBE TO MY YOUTUBE CHANNEL: http://www.youtube.com/c/OliverGrafTV
CONNECT WITH ME ON SOCIAL HERE: http://www.OliverGraf.tv/Social
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How Rodrigo Built a $100M+ Per Year Mortgage Business 🏆💰 | Founders Club ft. Rodrigo Ballon
What separates Rodrigo ‘El Zorro’ Ballon from other mortgage lenders? For one, he’s responsive. He answers his phone on nights and weekends—and has systems in place to field calls when he’s not available. He does his homework, making it a point to learn about the agents he’s prospecting. And he’s fast. Rodrigo’s average close is 14 days, beating the industry standard by a full week. So, how does he do it?
Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram: @OliverGraf360
Rodrigo is the Producing Branch Manager at CrossCountry Mortgage and one of the top loan originators in the United States. In 2014, he ranked #1 for purchase volume in San Diego Country, and his team has closed more than $100M in volume every year since 2011. Rodrigo has also received numerous awards from San Diego Magazine and Five Star Professional.
On this episode of Founders Club, Rodrigo joins Oliver to explain how he built a world-class lending business and why investors, agents and consumers like working with him. He shares his automated systems for communicating with clients and marketing to an agent’s database as well as his extra-mile approach to prospecting realtors. Listen in for insight on how to qualify for a mortgage loan and learn about the non-QM loan products available to business owners and entrepreneurs!
Key Takeaways[1:13] How Rodrigo built a $100M/year lending business
- Start as admin assistant for loan officer
- Rely on sphere as loan officer in downturn
- Known for ‘impossible loans’ (El Zorro)
- Largest lender for flippers in 2011
- Met agents through working with investors
[12:20] Why people like working with Rodrigo
- Reliability and perseverance
- Track record of closing quickly
[15:18] The tech Rodrigo uses to communicate with clients
- Video text to client with iPhone
- Automated systems to contact agent leads
[22:59] Rodrigo’s insight on delegating email response
- READ folder for things he needs to address
- Assign to people you trust, know you well
[29:06] Rodrigo’s approach to prospecting realtors
- Do recon on Facebook to find things in common
- Research current lender, average time to close
- Gifts with WOW factor (e.g.: champagne)
[37:21] How Rodrigo compensates agents for referrals
- Send buyer referrals to sphere
- Support agents with marketing systems
[44:30] Rodrigo’s availability on nights and weekends
- Answered phone when wife in labor
- Pop by open houses with cookies
- Stop what doing to qualify client NOW
[49:25] How Rodrigo facilitates a 14-day average close
- Get loans approved ahead of time
- Rely on backend team to handle volume
- Leverage experience (don’t rely on underwriter)
[57:10] The ‘free money’ available via loan products
- Bank statement loans for entrepreneurs
- 680 credit score + 10% down to qualify $1.5M
[1:03:20] Rodrigo’s advice on qualifying for a mortgage loan
- Manage credit (don’t max out, pay on time)
- Don’t buy car or change jobs
- Consult with mortgage banker for credit simulator
[1:16:44] How to reduce your mortgage from 30 to 22 years
- Make two additional payments per year
- Write separate check, specify ‘apply to principal’
[1:19:17] What Rodrigo is investing in
- Green investments
- Ground-up development in Utah near ski resorts
[1:23:45] Rodrigo’s top tools for running a business
- Crisp keyboard templates
- WhatsApp for foreign national clients
- Dropbox for security
Do me a solid and...
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The Most Successful Digital Marketer Reveals His Secrets 🔥💸 | Founders ft. Ryan Deiss
Are you trying to predict what’s next in digital marketing? If you ask Ryan Deiss, effective marketing is not about being on the cutting edge. It’s about leaning into what’s working right NOW. And you might be surprised what channels matter most for growing your business in this moment.
Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram: @OliverGraf360
Ryan is the Cofounder and CEO of Digital Marketer, the premiere training platform for growing your business online. Known as one of the world’s leading digital marketers, Ryan created the well-known Customer Value Optimization methodology and used it to start multiple companies around the globe. He is also the Cofounder of the Traffic and Conversion Summit, the largest digital marketing conference in North America, and Ryan is a sought-after speaker and recognized expert on marketing in the online era.
On this episode of Founders Club, Ryan joins Oliver to share his secrets for managing multiple ventures at once, discussing how his leadership team is structured and what responsibilities he outsources to an executive assistant. Ryan walks us through his journey from selling eBooks for extra money as a college freshman to CEO of Digital Marketer, describing the pivotal moment when he jotted down what has become the customer value journey—on the back of a napkin at a hotel bar. Listen in for Ryan’s surprising insight around what marketing channels are hot right now and learn how you can implement his one-page marketing plan to grow your real estate business!
Key Takeaways[1:09] How Ryan manages multiple ventures at once
- Involved in day-to-day during launch, hand off to dedicated team
- Monday leadership meetings guide how serve teams that week
[8:01] How Ryan’s leadership team is structured
- General manager for each venture
- Centralized specialists work across all divisions (e.g.: HR, sales)
[13:04] The role of Ryan’s virtual executive assistant
- Matched through agency based on personality tests
- Meet 2X/week via Zoom to go over calendar + email
[19:24] Ryan’s journey from selling eBooks to Digital Marketer
- Freelance as web designer in college, only client paid with eBook
- Expanded to 200 websites based on common search terms
- Asked to speak at marketing conferences, do consulting work
[25:33] The genesis of Ryan’s famed customer value journey
- 2006 algorithm shift led to failure, $250K in debt buying ads
- Jot down how business gets customers on million-dollar napkin
- Use realization to create standardization and rebuild business
[32:00] What’s hot right now in digital marketing
- Instagram stories
- Email newsletters
[43:11] Ryan’s insight around marketing on YouTube
- Use retargeting for high ROI
- Don’t break eye contact with camera
[45:17] How Ryan would approach a new real estate market
- Put energy in product = properties know can lease
- Create custom audience of likely tenants on Facebook, Google
- Bring on right partners to learn and gain experience
[52:19] The habits that have helped Ryan achieve his big goals
- Wake up at 6am, no snooze
- Document each day in planner (evaluate big wins, lessons)
[57:12] Ryan’s advice on getting eyes online
- Buy ads on Facebook, Instagram and YouTube
- Advertise to CONTENT
[1:01:02] What Ryan is investing in right now
- Put money back into own company
- Buy art at auction (up and comers)
[1:05:56] The one thing Ryan wishes he’d known sooner
- Better cashflow management
- Basic business budgeting
Do me a solid and...
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