
Close More Real Estate Deals By Doing This... đ đ„ | Founders Club ft. Kevin Markarian
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03/12/19 âą 35 min
Real estate agents need leads to do business. And if you donât have a robust sphere of influence, your business will flounder without a reliable pipeline of prospects. So, what are the best (and most cost-effective) online lead sources? Are there any no-cost strategies for attracting clients? And once you have built a database of online leads, what are the best tools to use for follow-up and conversion?
Kevin Markarian is Broker-Associate at Marker Real Estate, a San Francisco-based team of 55 agents that close an average of $3M each in business every year. An expert in online lead gen, Kevin is known for building the systems necessary to grow a database and automate follow-up, leveraging technology to compound results.
Today on the podcast, Kevin joins Oliver to explain how moving to a new city inspired his interest in online lead generation. He shares his favorite lead sources, offering insight into how he structures $2 Facebook lead ads and nurtures those leads long-term. Kevin also discusses the automation tools he uses to follow up on leads, hold agents accountable, and nurture his database. Listen in for Kevinâs FREE Craigslist and Yelp lead gen strategies and learn how to convert online leads at a high level!
Key Takeaways[2:13] What motivated Kevin to master lead gen
- Knew no one after move to San Francisco
- Interest in generating leads online
[3:32] Kevinâs favorite online lead sources
- Facebook ($2 per lead)
- Portals more expensive but lower in funnel
[4:20] The differences among Facebook, Google and portals
- Portals, Google = active leads seeking info
- Facebook leads targeted by you (longer timeline)
[6:23] Kevinâs advice around consistent follow-up
- Call back second time to create urgency
- Leverage âautomation with authenticityâ
[8:52] The fundamentals of Facebook lead ads
- Extracts info without registration
- Create lists (i.e.: 10 Best Views in SF Under $1M)
[13:15] The tools Kevin uses to automate follow up
- Agentology facilitates speed to lead
- Agent Legend to stay in front of lead long-term
[18:33] Other real estate tech platforms Kevin recommends
- Follow Up Boss to assign leads and track progress
- Line2 app to separate personal vs. business calls
- RealScout to nurture database, set appointments
[24:26] How Kevin holds agents accountable for follow up
- Note-taking in Follow Up Boss
- Reach out to client for progress report
[26:55] Kevinâs FREE Craigslist strategy
- Post photo + description of listings
- âText INFO toâ CallAction #
[30:01] Jason Waltersâ Yelp keyword strategy
- Ask clients to write reviews with specific keywords
- Rank in Google search for âbest realtorâ in your city
Real estate agents need leads to do business. And if you donât have a robust sphere of influence, your business will flounder without a reliable pipeline of prospects. So, what are the best (and most cost-effective) online lead sources? Are there any no-cost strategies for attracting clients? And once you have built a database of online leads, what are the best tools to use for follow-up and conversion?
Kevin Markarian is Broker-Associate at Marker Real Estate, a San Francisco-based team of 55 agents that close an average of $3M each in business every year. An expert in online lead gen, Kevin is known for building the systems necessary to grow a database and automate follow-up, leveraging technology to compound results.
Today on the podcast, Kevin joins Oliver to explain how moving to a new city inspired his interest in online lead generation. He shares his favorite lead sources, offering insight into how he structures $2 Facebook lead ads and nurtures those leads long-term. Kevin also discusses the automation tools he uses to follow up on leads, hold agents accountable, and nurture his database. Listen in for Kevinâs FREE Craigslist and Yelp lead gen strategies and learn how to convert online leads at a high level!
Key Takeaways[2:13] What motivated Kevin to master lead gen
- Knew no one after move to San Francisco
- Interest in generating leads online
[3:32] Kevinâs favorite online lead sources
- Facebook ($2 per lead)
- Portals more expensive but lower in funnel
[4:20] The differences among Facebook, Google and portals
- Portals, Google = active leads seeking info
- Facebook leads targeted by you (longer timeline)
[6:23] Kevinâs advice around consistent follow-up
- Call back second time to create urgency
- Leverage âautomation with authenticityâ
[8:52] The fundamentals of Facebook lead ads
- Extracts info without registration
- Create lists (i.e.: 10 Best Views in SF Under $1M)
[13:15] The tools Kevin uses to automate follow up
- Agentology facilitates speed to lead
- Agent Legend to stay in front of lead long-term
[18:33] Other real estate tech platforms Kevin recommends
- Follow Up Boss to assign leads and track progress
- Line2 app to separate personal vs. business calls
- RealScout to nurture database, set appointments
[24:26] How Kevin holds agents accountable for follow up
- Note-taking in Follow Up Boss
- Reach out to client for progress report
[26:55] Kevinâs FREE Craigslist strategy
- Post photo + description of listings
- âText INFO toâ CallAction #
[30:01] Jason Waltersâ Yelp keyword strategy
- Ask clients to write reviews with specific keywords
- Rank in Google search for âbest realtorâ in your city
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How to Make Big Profits Wholesaling Real Estate đ đž | Founders Club ft. Cory Boatright
Motivated sellers are usually dealing with some kind of distress, be it an illness in the family, a divorce, or a financial emergency. If you can step in and provide a solution, not only will you be a hero to the homeowner, you will be several thousand dollars richer. So, what does the process look like? How can you give people peace of mind AND score big profits wholesaling real estate?
Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram
Cory Boatright is an expert in the realm of wholesaling, completing more than 100 deals in 2018 alone. He is also the founder of Real Estate Investing Profits and Phenomenal Results Coaching, serving as a mentor for high-achieving entrepreneurs and their teams. Cory has played a role in buying and selling over $75M in real estate and realizing 1000 transactions, and now he is pursuing multifamily syndication.
Today on the podcast, Cory joins Oliver to explain how he earns big profits by way of wholesaling real estate. He discusses the fundamentals of the process, sharing some of the reasons why a homeowner might be motivated to sell and how he serves as a solutions provider who can take their pain away. Cory describes how he finds deals, how he relates to sellers, and how his team gets paid at closing. Listen in for insight around a few of Coryâs biggest wins to date and learn his proven system for wholesaling real estate!
Key Takeaways[1:29] Coryâs ability to hunt and capitalize on great deals
- Found wholesaler, sold Ginsu knives online
- Filling 500 orders/day from stock in garage
[4:49] The fundamentals of wholesaling
- Get property under contract, resell immediately
- Solution for those who need to sell quickly
[9:36] Why a homeowner may need to sell quickly
- Illness in family, divorce or inheritance
- Ask questions to connect on human level
[14:55] How Cory finds deals
- Data scientist on staff
- Direct mail, PPC, niche lists and referrals
[17:12] The approach Cory uses with motivated sellers
- Script to gather basic info (e.g.: location, mortgage)
- Ask price AND what accept if close quickly for cash
- Set appointment on first call
[20:44] How Cory determines an offer price
- WMRP method (worth, market, repairs and profit)
- Speak with seller in person to read body language
[23:44] Coryâs insight on contracting a property
- Focus on gap between offer and asking price
- Walk through your numbers using comps
[26:03] The role of the title rep in the wholesaling process
- Clean and marketable title to end buyer
- âAssume that all homeowners are liarsâ
[28:04] How to proceed if the seller wonât accept your offer
- Option-to-purchase agreement
- Seller usually end up compromising
[30:21] How the double closing works in a wholesale deal
- Cash buyer puts money in escrow
- Payout seller, spread goes to you
[33:17] Coryâs biggest wholesaling wins to date
- Paid $11K for property, sold at $70K
- $300K profit on apartment complex
- Single-family short sale profit $160K (negotiate liens)
[42:08] How Coryâs team gets paid at closing
- Simple cash transaction, net wire distributed to team
- Marketing spend of $25K/month, $3K/deal
[44:11] Coryâs take on the benefits of investing in multifamily
- Wholesaling provides cash now with little risk
- Multifamily affords passive income indefinitely
- Incredible tax benefits along with cashflow
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How to Grow Your Real Estate Business Fast (And Maximize Profits!) đ đž | Founders Club ft. Roland Frasier
So, you want to grow your real estate business, but youâre on a limited budget, and you donât know where to start. Are there creative ways to extend your reach that donât cost an arm and a leg? Are there hidden profit centers in your business? What steps can you take to build your brand and increase your revenue nowâand make your business more attractive to buyers when youâre ready to sell?
Connect with Founders Club Host Oliver Graf on Instagram
Roland Frasier is the Principal of DigitalMarketer, a firm that provides tools and training programs for individuals, teams and marketing agencies. The company also sponsors the annual Traffic & Conversion Summit, the largest digital marketing conference in North America. Roland also serves as the CEO of War Room Mastermind, a community designed to help founders grow their wealth. A serial entrepreneur known for facilitating exponential growth, Roland has bought, scaled and sold 24 businesses over the years.
Today on the podcast, Roland joins Oliver to offer advice on growing your real estate business. We discuss how to turn cost centers into profit centers and explore how buying a top podcast or Instagram account in your niche can yield a 10X return on investment. Roland also walks us through the process of doing deals with little or none of your own money and describes how to make your business more attractive to a buyer via recurring revenue. Listen in to understand how Roland grew a Facebook following of 1M in just eight months and learn why he is investing in brand-building, relationshipsâand 3K bottles of wine!
Key Takeaways[0:27] How Roland got into the business of buying and selling companies
- Exposed to entrepreneurs through dadâs law practice
- Connected with investment banking world in NYC
[2:35] How Roland maintains a relaxed demeanor
- Respond in intentional way (vs. react)
- Listen with beginnerâs mind
[4:22] How Roland prepares for a negotiation
- Write down must-haves and what can let go
- List potential objections given their likely must-haves
[7:22] Rolandâs first real estate deal
- Follow idea of building in path of progress
- Developed four lots of unentitled land
[11:29] Rolandâs insight on choosing action with multiple benefits
- Relationship with developer = numerous deals
[12:52] The hidden profit centers in a real estate business
- Title, escrow and mortgage (ancillary businesses)
- Photography service + staging company
- Marketing or document prep
- Appointment setters + cold callers
[18:32] Rolandâs approach to growing a business
- Leverage AGILE Growth Framework
- Buy media sources within niche
[21:57] How to do deals with little or none of your own money
- Overcome point of disbelief by buying real estate w/ deed transfer
- Structure buying companies same way (i.e.: first $1500 of profit)
[30:35] How to leverage media platforms to scale your growth
- Buy several + promote to each other
- Increase velocity of touches
[33:04] Rolandâs advice on making your company more sellable
- Reduce risk by way of MRR/ARR (e.g.: subscription revenue)
- Turn cost centers into profit centers
- Develop bolt-on businesses
[38:39] How Roland grew his Facebook page to 1M followers in eight months
- Shot short videos at meetings to generate content (1K total)
- Post on business page, pay to boost post and promote page
- Target English speakers to build brand globally
[47:45] How to vet a digital marketing service
- Research their social media accounts (content, followers + engagement)
- Look at certifications and reach out to case studies on website
[51:20] Rolandâs take on how the blockchain may impact real estate
- May lose sophisticated customers at top of market
- Successful agents will be tech aware quarterback of transactions
[56:34] Why Roland is unwilling to âbet the farmâ
- Watched father lose everything
- Defer or partner to avoid risk
[58:55] Rolandâs secret to staying calm and avoiding stress
- Realize very high highs and low lows donât last
- Take charge of emotions, show up for people care about
[1:04:02] What Roland is investing in at present
- Real estate and companies
- Personal brand-building an...
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