Energy Never Dies

For the first time, since launching Energy Never Dies, Hanna and Tamara sit down in the same room to record a podcast. Not only are they in the same city and room, but they are joined by two very special, reoccurring guests, Jarrod Ward and Tony Goldsby.
In the midst of the world dealing with the COVID-19, these four sit down to discuss time.
What is time, is it real, how much of it do we have left, what do we do with time? In a situation like this, a world pandemic and quarantine, where we find ourselves with loads of time, what are we doing with that time? Where is our attention going?
Time is an illusion, we use it to coordinate with other human beings. In doing so, time seems finite especially when considering death. We view time to be very limited and we are rushing to figure out what it is we are doing here on this planet - could we curb that feeling of being rushed if we perceived time differently?
You may find like these four did, that having a conversation around death and time is impossible to do without incorporating beliefs, religion and philosophy. This is a deep conversation that they hope you will listen to and not be 'scared' away by the topic.
In the west, death is feared, but by fearing it are we missing out on the beauty of life as it is, was and what will or could be after the expiration of this human life?

As you can see this is a lengthy episode, but it is certainly worth a listen even if you have to break up your listening sessions!
The best way to introduce this episode is by giving a little background on Tamara's state of mind weeks before this episode was recorded.
Tamara wrote Hanna a text on February 12, 2020, that said, "I had scans done yesterday. Unfortunately, which I knew, the cancer is significantly worse. My liver is now covered in tumors. So I'm reluctantly starting IV chemo on Monday. I’m so emotionally exhausted from this life. I collapsed on Monday in the backfield looking for Frank (her lost dog) and had to be carried back to the house. My body is just giving out on me."
When Hanna received that text she thought to herself, "Is this the beginning of the end?"
On February 17, 2020, Tamara went in for her first chemo infusion where she went into anaphylactic shock. The nurses and doctors were able to quickly open her airway and get her breathing again. In true Tamara fashion, she didn't give up and went back for a second treatment. That act of going back and accepting the chemo as part of her healing process has taken her to a new 'plane'.
It's hard to say what has changed for Tamara, maybe it was the anaphylactic shock, accepting her present as is or a deep understanding of how much she is loved - whatever it was, there has certainly been a deep mental shift and it unfolds before you in this episode.
Through this conversation, you can literally hear Tamara's transformation from a down and out cancer patient to a strong, resilient human being that wants to truly understand herself and explore her mind.
This is such an impactful and inspirational episode in Tamara's journey through cancer.

In this episode, Tamara and Hanna sit back down with the beautiful Annie Noll as she opens up and becomes very vulnerable in sharing her journey through an eating disorder, body image issues and how she is learning to listen to the intelligence of her body.
Annie holds nothing back when sharing her story - she talks about her diagnoses, therapy, lessons learned and, in true Energy Never Dies, fashion she keeps it raw and real!
Annie takes us from a perception of there are only two types of bodies - a perfect body or a body that needs to be fixed to wanting her daughter to have the experience of knowing herself beyond beauty.
This is a true story of learning how to love yourself, be yourself and even beyond that finding appreciation for the human that you are.

"Death isn't actually an end, it's just a change." - Annie Noll
This might be one of the most powerful episodes that the girls have done thus far! They talk to the very lovely Annie Noll about her journey and experience of watching her son fight through and pass away from neuroblastoma.
There is a beauty to Annie, in that she is able to tell her and her son's painful story with such grace and elegance. She has an incredible gift of expressing suffering and the human condition in a way that you can feel and see the pain, but within that pain, you see the absolute beauty of what it means to be a human being. She is a person that you can relate to, admire, grieve for, celebrate with and respect.
Annie was one of those gals that had it all! She was married to her college sweetheart, she had an excellent career ahead of her at a prestigious ad agency, owned a lovely home and in November of 2011 gave birth to a beautiful baby boy. Things were good, however, as life does she and her family were shaken when her son was diagnosed with Stage Four, High-Risk Neuroblastoma at the age of 3 years old. They fought for 2.5 years when Jonah passed at the age of 5. At that time Annie was 32 weeks pregnant with her second son Harrison.
In this podcast, you not only hear about the journey that Annie and her family took during her son's illness but how this has changed her perspective on life, suffering, living, the other side, heaven, connecting with her son on a different plane, religion, spirituality, the human condition and so much more...
Annie is an amazing human that is able to frame life in such a way that seeing the light through the darkness makes sense. We are so grateful that she joined us for such an inspiring and thought-provoking conversation.
Stay tuned for Part II with Annie Noll.
You can follow Annie on Instagram and Facebook:
https://www.instagram.com/anniejnoll/
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In this episode, Hanna and Tamara dive into pregnancy. You will learn about Hanna's story, in finding out she was pregnant in Vietnam, her experiences with doctors in the least developed and developing countries and how her spiritual journey has prepared her for this next part of her Artful Journey.