DeRazzled 2nd Unit - Superman Lives, Part 2 - Shaloubin' Around

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09/20/22 • 101 min

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We continue our odyssey into Development Hell to wrap up our dissection of Tim Burton's unmade Superman Lives! Having covered the origins of Jon Peters and the beginnings of this project through Kevin Smith's role in this story, we now focus in on Burton's vision for Nick Cage as the Man of Steel in a story of the ultimate outsider. We cover the cavalcade of wildly talented artists involved, the utter pain in the ass that Jon Peters was for basically everyone involved, the panic spiral Warner Bros found themselves in, and just how the death of Superman Lives led to Superman Returns -- including as much as we could stomach of the absolutely buckwild idea J. J. Abrams had that cost us a Batman vs. Superman film written by the guy who wrote Se7en. We also touch on Warner Bros current woes following their merger with Discovery, as it seems like they've learned nothing from their mistakes. We hope that you enjoy the conclusion to this absurd story in which people are wildly in-character throughout, because sadly no one paid us $85 million not to do it. Settle in and wonder for yourselves whether Saved By The Bell's Zack Morris or Tony Shaloub would be your dream Superman.

CW: Racism relating to Tim Burton, more Jon Peters, mention of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey, mention of Brett Ratner and X-Men: The Last Stand

Podcast plugged in this episode: The Geeky Dad (@geekydadpodcast on Twitter)

CW: Racism relating to Tim Burton, more Jon Peters, mention of Bryan Singer and Kevin Spacey, mention of Brett Ratner and X-Men: The Last Stand

Podcast plugged in this episode: The Geeky Dad (@geekydadpodcast on Twitter)

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DeRazzled 2nd Unit - Superman Lives, Part 1 - The Trump of Hollywood

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For our latest venture into Development Hell, we take on one of the biggest, most infamous examples of a film that never came to be: Tim Burton's Superman Lives. In the first part of our deepest dive yet, we start most people's first exposure to the story, Kevin Smith's story of getting hired to write the script. We examine Smith's story and dissect his script, but to really lay the groundwork for this tale we need to get to know the producer who hired Smith to begin with, Jon Peters. We relive the most intense and absurd of their filming experiences, revel in the early years of the View Askewniverse, ponder whether Jon Peters thinks Barbara Streisand can read, learn something new about sex worker hair trends of the 70s, and so, so much more. Listen as we rifle through the vast and numerous filing cabinets that hold this story, as we wish Warner Bros had done before Peters could get his hands on Supes' rights from the Salkinds.

CW: Sexism, homophobia, violent behavior, comparisons to Donald Trump, mention of the Heidi Fleiss Hollywood Madame case -- and that's all just Jon Peters!

Podcasts plugged in this episode: The Geeky Dad Podcast (@geekydadpodcast on Twitter)

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DeRazzled - Xanadu, Part 1 - Electric Zeus and Bluthland

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We were gonna cover this one later this season, but with Olivia Newton John's recent passing (R.I.P.) we decided to tackle this OG Razzie Worst Picture nominee much sooner than expected. And y'know what, we're glad we did, because Jack actually really liked this one to the surprise of Joe and special guest Caleb Feigles of Making a Martini. We roll out our new format by giving a rapid-fire synopsis of the film (lest Jack be punished with horse noises) and covering what worked and didn't work with this 1980 day-glo laser roller disco fever dream. We lament the camera work and fashion choices made for Gene Kelly's last feature film role, declare our love for the work of Don Bluth, and wonder at what happens when you get a bunch of Tron in your Greek mythology. Kick back and relax after a long day of roller skating to Electric Light Orchestra and enjoy part 1 of our journey into Xanadu!

Check back next week for part 2, in which we take a closer look behind the scenes of this film and attempt to fix it.

CW: alcohol, discussion of drug use, discussion of sex clubs and bathhouses, mention of All Dogs Go To Heaven

Podcasts plugged in this episode: Making a Martini (@MartiniMaking on Twitter); Doom Generation (@DoomGenPod on Twitter)