
John List - ALMOST the perfect murder?
11/15/21 • 63 min
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Allison presents the story of John List. He and his family went to church together every Sunday, but John ended up killing his wife and children, made himself a meal, and then seemingly disappeared before being found again years down the road.
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- All That’s Interesting: John List, The Mass Murderer Who Killed His Family So He’d See Them in Heaven
- Wikipedia: John List
- DeLani R. Bartlette: John List: He Commited the (Almost) Perfect Murder
- ABC News: 1971 Family Killer Breaks Silence
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Allison presents the story of John List. He and his family went to church together every Sunday, but John ended up killing his wife and children, made himself a meal, and then seemingly disappeared before being found again years down the road.
Become a supporter! https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple
Send us a nice note on Twitter or Instagram! We'd love to hear from you!
https://twitter.com/crimeandcoffee2
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Sources:
- All That’s Interesting: John List, The Mass Murderer Who Killed His Family So He’d See Them in Heaven
- Wikipedia: John List
- DeLani R. Bartlette: John List: He Commited the (Almost) Perfect Murder
- ABC News: 1971 Family Killer Breaks Silence
Podcast Intro and Outro music:
Seductress Dubstep by Audionautix http://audionautix.com
Creative Commons Music by Jason Shaw on Audionautix.com
Support us and become a Patron! Over 100 bonus episodes:
https://www.patreon.com/crimeandcoffeecouple
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References available at https://www.crimeandcoffeecouple.com a few days after this podcast airs.
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