
Forgiveness vs. Healing: Overcoming Trauma with Courageous Fire
02/13/25 • 34 min
In this episode of Coffee Can’t Fix Everything, I sit down with Courageous Fire, a survivor, advocate, and author of The Other Child. We unpack the complicated relationship between forgiveness and healing—why they aren’t always the same and why choosing self-compassion over forced forgiveness can be the key to true healing.
Courageous shares her journey of surviving domestic violence, breaking free from toxic relationships, and redefining what healing looks like on her terms. We discuss how childhood trauma impacts our ability to forgive, the importance of self-forgiveness, and the first steps to reclaiming our power.
If you've ever felt pressured to "just forgive and move on," this episode challenges that mindset and offers a fresh, empowering perspective. Tune in to hear Courageous Fire’s insights and learn how to shift the focus from forgiveness to healing.
Episode Highlights:
🔹 [00:00] – Welcome to Coffee Can’t Fix Everything + Introducing Courageous Fire
🔹 [00:28] – The meaning behind Courageous Fire’s name and her journey
🔹 [00:52] – Forgiveness vs. Healing: Why they aren’t the same
🔹 [02:08] – The pressure to forgive in religious and societal settings
🔹 [03:20] – How forced forgiveness can lead to further trauma
🔹 [06:01] – Courageous Fire’s story: Surviving domestic violence
🔹 [07:45] – Self-forgiveness: The first step to healing
🔹 [08:33] – Why survivors blame themselves and how to shift the perspective
🔹 [12:09] – The power of reclaiming your identity after trauma
🔹 [16:31] – The “Mufasa Moment” – Recognizing your inner strength
🔹 [19:12] – When is the right time to forgive?
🔹 [22:06] – How to reframe self-worth to embrace healing
🔹 [25:09] – The Other Child: How labels can help identify and process trauma
🔹 [30:45] – First steps for people ready to start their healing journey
🔹 [32:22] – Where to find Courageous Fire’s book and final words of encouragement
Key Takeaways:
✅ Forgiveness is often pressured but isn’t always necessary for healing.
✅ Self-forgiveness is crucial in overcoming trauma.
✅ Trauma survivors often blame themselves for what was done to them.
✅ Healing begins when you recognize your worth and reclaim your power.
✅ True healing happens on your own timeline—not when others expect it.
📩 Enjoyed this episode? Leave a review and share it with a friend!
Resources & Links:
📖 Get Courageous Fire’s book This Is for the Other Child
National Mental Health Resources (U.S.)
National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) – Free mental health support and education.
https://www.nami.org
MentalHealth.gov – Government resource for mental health education and support.
https://www.mentalhealth.gov
Crisis Text Line – Free 24/7 support via text. Text HELLO to 741741
https://www.crisistextline.org
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – Free 24/7 support for those in crisis or distress. Call 988
https://988lifeline.org
The Trevor Project – Mental health and crisis support for LGBTQ+ youth. Call 1-866-488-7386 or text START to 678678
https://www.thetrevorproject.org
RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) – Support for survivors of sexual violence. Call 800-656-HOPE (4673)
https://www.rainn.org
SAMHSA National Helpline – Free and confidential treatment referral and support. Call 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
Black Mental Health & Trauma Resources
Therapy for Black Girls – Mental health support for Black women & girl...
In this episode of Coffee Can’t Fix Everything, I sit down with Courageous Fire, a survivor, advocate, and author of The Other Child. We unpack the complicated relationship between forgiveness and healing—why they aren’t always the same and why choosing self-compassion over forced forgiveness can be the key to true healing.
Courageous shares her journey of surviving domestic violence, breaking free from toxic relationships, and redefining what healing looks like on her terms. We discuss how childhood trauma impacts our ability to forgive, the importance of self-forgiveness, and the first steps to reclaiming our power.
If you've ever felt pressured to "just forgive and move on," this episode challenges that mindset and offers a fresh, empowering perspective. Tune in to hear Courageous Fire’s insights and learn how to shift the focus from forgiveness to healing.
Episode Highlights:
🔹 [00:00] – Welcome to Coffee Can’t Fix Everything + Introducing Courageous Fire
🔹 [00:28] – The meaning behind Courageous Fire’s name and her journey
🔹 [00:52] – Forgiveness vs. Healing: Why they aren’t the same
🔹 [02:08] – The pressure to forgive in religious and societal settings
🔹 [03:20] – How forced forgiveness can lead to further trauma
🔹 [06:01] – Courageous Fire’s story: Surviving domestic violence
🔹 [07:45] – Self-forgiveness: The first step to healing
🔹 [08:33] – Why survivors blame themselves and how to shift the perspective
🔹 [12:09] – The power of reclaiming your identity after trauma
🔹 [16:31] – The “Mufasa Moment” – Recognizing your inner strength
🔹 [19:12] – When is the right time to forgive?
🔹 [22:06] – How to reframe self-worth to embrace healing
🔹 [25:09] – The Other Child: How labels can help identify and process trauma
🔹 [30:45] – First steps for people ready to start their healing journey
🔹 [32:22] – Where to find Courageous Fire’s book and final words of encouragement
Key Takeaways:
✅ Forgiveness is often pressured but isn’t always necessary for healing.
✅ Self-forgiveness is crucial in overcoming trauma.
✅ Trauma survivors often blame themselves for what was done to them.
✅ Healing begins when you recognize your worth and reclaim your power.
✅ True healing happens on your own timeline—not when others expect it.
📩 Enjoyed this episode? Leave a review and share it with a friend!
Resources & Links:
📖 Get Courageous Fire’s book This Is for the Other Child
National Mental Health Resources (U.S.)
National Alliance on Mental Illness (NAMI) – Free mental health support and education.
https://www.nami.org
MentalHealth.gov – Government resource for mental health education and support.
https://www.mentalhealth.gov
Crisis Text Line – Free 24/7 support via text. Text HELLO to 741741
https://www.crisistextline.org
988 Suicide & Crisis Lifeline – Free 24/7 support for those in crisis or distress. Call 988
https://988lifeline.org
The Trevor Project – Mental health and crisis support for LGBTQ+ youth. Call 1-866-488-7386 or text START to 678678
https://www.thetrevorproject.org
RAINN (Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network) – Support for survivors of sexual violence. Call 800-656-HOPE (4673)
https://www.rainn.org
SAMHSA National Helpline – Free and confidential treatment referral and support. Call 1-800-662-HELP (4357)
https://www.samhsa.gov/find-help/national-helpline
Black Mental Health & Trauma Resources
Therapy for Black Girls – Mental health support for Black women & girl...
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